GOPe just rubber stamp a Trump VP pick ?

[Jan2017]

Would the GOP elite just rubber stamp a Trump Vice President pick ?

In the modern era at least, it has been standard practice that the party Presidential nominee gets to submit a Vice-President pick . . .
and the convention delegates all unbound actually vote on the Vice-President slot, officially.

Even if Duhnald Trump makes the first ballot win - no brokered convention - he may not have that many friends in Cleveland Quicken Arena at convention to give him what he wants (?)

I figure there could still be a need for the riot gear inside the convention, even after Trump would win a first ballot nomination.

 

[erowe1]

Would the GOP elite just rubber stamp a Trump Vice President pick ?

In the modern era at least, it has been standard practice that the party Presidential nominee gets to submit a Vice-President pick . . .
and the convention delegates all unbound actually vote on the Vice-President slot, officially.

Even if Duhnald Trump makes the first ballot win - no brokered convention - he may not have that many friends in Cleveland Quicken Arena at convention to give him what he wants (?)

I figure there could still be a need for the riot gear inside the convention, even after Trump would win a first ballot nomination.

That's a very good point.

I have been thinking that Trump would want to pick a Democrat VP. But you may be right. The party may not go along with that.

But if Trump does pick a Republican, it will probably be a liberal one that the establishment would adore anyway.

 

[Jan2017]

fwiw, 1888 GOP Convention had the Vice-President vote go like this . . .

[TABLE="class: wikitable"]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 2"]Vice Presidential Ballot[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]Ballot[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]1st[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]Levi P. Morton[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]591[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]William Walter Phelps[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]119[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]William O'Connell Bradley[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]103[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]Blanche K. Bruce[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]11[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]Walter F. Thomas[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]1[/TH]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Levi Morton became the 22nd Vice-President of the US under President Benjamin Harrison
Harrison had finished fifth out of six on the first Presidential ballot . . .
but won the GOP nod on the 8th ballot, and became the 23rd President of the US

[TABLE="class: wikitable"]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 9"]Presidential Ballot[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]Ballot[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]1st[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]2nd[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]3rd[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]4th[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]5th[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]6th[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]7th[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]8th[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]Benjamin Harrison[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]80[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]91[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]94[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]217[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]213[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]231[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]278[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]544[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]John Sherman[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]229[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]249[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]244[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]235[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]224[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]244[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]231[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]118[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]Russell A. Alger[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]84[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]116[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]122[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]135[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]142[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]137[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]120[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]100[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]Walter Q. Gresham[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]111[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]108[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]123[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]98[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]87[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]91[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]91[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]59[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]William B. Allison[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]72[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]75[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]88[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]88[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]99[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]73[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]76[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]0[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]Chauncey Depew[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]99[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]99[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]91[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]0[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]0[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]0[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]0[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2"]0[/TH]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

 

[SpiritOf1776_J4]

Would the GOP elite just rubber stamp a Trump Vice President pick ?

In the modern era at least, it has been standard practice that the party Presidential nominee gets to submit a Vice-President pick . . .
and the convention delegates all unbound actually vote on the Vice-President slot, officially.

Even if Duhnald Trump makes the first ballot win - no brokered convention - he may not have that many friends in Cleveland Quicken Arena at convention to give him what he wants (?)

I figure there could still be a need for the riot gear inside the convention, even after Trump would win a first ballot nomination.

Reagan hardly picked Bush. He was forced to so the establishment would have someone on the ticket.

 

[Zippyjuan]

Would the GOP elite just rubber stamp a Trump Vice President pick ?

In the modern era at least, it has been standard practice that the party Presidential nominee gets to submit a Vice-President pick . . .
and the convention delegates all unbound actually vote on the Vice-President slot, officially.

Even if Duhnald Trump makes the first ballot win - no brokered convention - he may not have that many friends in Cleveland Quicken Arena at convention to give him what he wants (?)

I figure there could still be a need for the riot gear inside the convention, even after Trump would win a first ballot nomination.

Link? (the rule used to be that the VP went to the runner-up) Currently the nominee picks his own running mate- delegates don't vote on it.

 

[CPUd]

Link? (the rule used to be that the VP went to the runner-up) Currently the nominee picks his own running mate- delegates don't vote on it.

They still vote for VP at the RNC, they just don't have the rule where the runner up in the main ballot is the VP. It's a separate vote, and usually done by acclamation.

 

[Jan2017]

I have been thinking that Trump would want to pick a Democrat VP. But you may be right. The party may not go along with that.

But if Trump does pick a Republican, it will probably be a liberal one . . .

Ok now, you got me thinking about Kerry/McCain in 2004 . . . and this absurdity of 2008 (McCain/Kerry ?)

McCain Asked About Kerry’s V.P. Offer
By ELISABETH BUMILLER MARCH 7, 2008 4:18 PM

NEW ORLEANS — *Senator John McCain got a question at a town hall meeting this morning in Atlanta that he never has addressed publicly before:
Since Senator John Kerry, Democrat of Massachusetts, had approached Mr. McCain about being his running mate for the White House in 2004,
would Mr. McCain now return the favor?

The Times reported that Mr. Kerry made his first direct overtures to Mr. McCain about the vice presidential spot about three weeks after Mr. Kerry locked up the nomination that March, according to a person who had discussed the issue with both men.

They still vote for VP at the RNC, they just don't have the rule where the runner up in the main ballot is the VP. It's a separate vote, and usually done by acclamation.

A process to nominate others beside the "Trump" pick . . . just in case . . . ?

 

[Jan2017]

I have been thinking that Trump would want to pick a Democrat VP. . . .

Anyone Trump could have in mind that would want to be a thorn for Hillary/Bernie ?


.

 

[Jan2017]

Link? (the rule used to be that the VP went to the runner-up) Currently the nominee picks his own running mate- delegates don't vote on it.

try google . . . or just pull something creative out of your arse again.

In 1976 . . .

First ballot vote for the presidential nomination by state delegations​

Candidate	Votes	Percentage
President Gerald Ford
Ronald Reagan
Elliot Richardson
Totals	2,258	100.00%

[TH="colspan: 3"]Republican National Convention Presidential nominee vote, 1976[SUP] [2] [/SUP][/TH]

[TD="align: right"] 1,187 [/TD]
[TD="align: right"] 52.57% [/TD]

[TD="align: right"]1,070[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]47.39%[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0.04%[/TD]

Vice Presidential

Some of the Reagan delegates, angry with the loss of their candidate, decided to scatter their votes among over 30 people. Jesse Helms' name was put into nomination.

• Bob Dole – 1,921 (85.04%)
• Abstaining – 103 (4.56%)
• Jesse Helms – 103 (4.56%)
• Ronald Reagan – 27 (1.20%)
• Phil Crane – 23 (1.02%)
• John Grady – 19 (0.84%)
• Louis Frey – 9 (0.40%)
• Anne Armstrong – 6 (0.27%)
• Howard Baker – 6 (0.27%)
• James L. Buckley – 4 (0.18%)
• John B. Connally – 4 (0.18%)
• David C. Treen – 4 (0.18%)
• Alan Steelman – 3 (0.13%)
• Bob Bauman – 2 (0.09%)
• Bill Brock – 2 (0.09%)
• Paul Laxalt – 2 (0.09%)
• Elliot Richardson – 2 (0.09%)
• Richard Schweiker – 2 (0.09%)
• William E. Simon – 2 (0.09%)
• Jack Wellborn – 2 (0.09%)
• James Allen – 1 (0.04%)
• Ray Barnhardt – 1 (0.04%)
• George H. W. Bush – 1 (0.04%)
• Pete Domenici – 1 (0.04%)
• James B. Edwards – 1 (0.04%)
• Frank S. Glenn – 1 (0.04%)
• David Keene – 1 (0.04%)
• James McClure – 1 (0.04%)
• Nancy Palm – 1 (0.04%)
• Donald Rumsfeld – 1 (0.04%)
• John W. Sears – 1 (0.04%)
• Roger Staubach – 1 (0.04%)
• Steve Symms – 1 (0.04%)

 

[Jan2017]

[TABLE="class: cms_table"]
[TR]
[TH="colspan: 3, align: center"]Republican National Convention Presidential nominee vote, 1976[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="align: center"]Candidate[/TH]
[TH="align: center"]Votes[/TH]
[TH="align: center"]Percentage[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]President Gerald Ford[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1,187[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]52.57%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Ronald Reagan[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1,070[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]47.39%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Elliot Richardson[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0.04%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Totals[/TD]
[TD]2,258[/TD]
[TD]100.00%[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

So, it was 1130 delegates to win in 1976, Reagan fell short (a swing of 60 delegates),
and Gerald Ford/Bob Dole lose to Jimmy Carter in the general election.

It was only two vying for GOP delegates in 1976.
Now, imagine this upcoming summer in Cleveland . . . after the final primary in June someone - or both top two - falls about 100 delegates behind the 1200+ to win - Rubot and/or Kung Fu Kasich would have a little block of delegates and a VP deal ? Awe, shit!