GOP Unity Talkers Listen Up: Romney EQUALLY as bad as Obama!

[FSP-Rebel]

The campaign is definitely not trying to get Ron Paul as the nominee and hasn't been for a long time.

They certainly aren't maximizing delegations to Tampa just to waste our money. Some people just can't stand that the campaign isn't giving out the full scoop to the supporters as in complete transparency. In a sensitive position like we're in, I fully trust they're doing what's necessary to play the chess game. Whether Paul gets the nom or not, we're still supposed to be reclaiming the GOP into our image and I'm doing my part.

 

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

If the campaign is not doing this to get Ron Paul as nominee then the RP campaign is dead, and the liberty movement has died.

It's more alive than it's been in 40 years. Sounds like your perspective is short sighted.

 

[erowe1]

They certainly aren't maximizing delegations to Tampa just to waste our money.

Right. But they're not doing it to win the nomination for Ron Paul either. And I don't want to see this forum be a place where those kind of delusions are spread.

 

[nasonex]

Reclaiming the GOP in our image cannot include supporting Romney. Remember, Rand has already endorsed him. This is like promoting Christianity by endorsing a serial killer to be a pastor.

 

[nasonex]

It's more alive than it's been in 40 years. Sounds like your perspective is short sighted.

Doing anything to promote Romney is absolutely wrong. I do not care if opposing him hurts the campaign or not.

 

[trey4sports]

Reclaiming the GOP in our image cannot include supporting Romney. Remember, Rand has already endorsed him. This is like promoting Christianity by endorsing a serial killer to be a pastor.

Regardless of whether we like it or not, (full disclosure, i get sick to my stomach watching that interview of Rand endorsing Romney) endorsing the party nominee is going to help Rand in '16. At the least, if he refused to support Romney (which would be the principled stance) it will hurt his chances in '16 and possibly by quite a bit.

 

[nasonex]

Supporting Romney to get rid of Obama is like kicking the fox out of your chicken coop while putting in a coyote.

 

[FSP-Rebel]

Right. But they're not doing it to win the nomination for Ron Paul either.

They're doing the most with what they have or will have. Anything is still possible so absolutes are premature atm. But, I see your point, in that some small % of active supporters are holding too much hope on getting the nom and can't see any other beneficial outcome longer term.

 

[nasonex]

Regardless of whether we like it or not, (full disclosure, i get sick to my stomach watching that interview of Rand endorsing Romney) endorsing the party nominee is going to help Rand in '16. At the least, if he refused to support Romney (which would be the principled stance) it will hurt his chances in '16 and possibly by quite a bit.

You do not compromise to support evil. You just do not do it. The reason Ron Paul is worth voting for is because he opposes big government and speaks the truth even when it hurts him or causes him to lose votes. The fact Rand Paul has endorsed Romney is absolutely disgusting, and proves he is an absolute sell out. He is willing to compromise his values to advance his career.

 

[erowe1]

Regardless of whether we like it or not, (full disclosure, i get sick to my stomach watching that interview of Rand endorsing Romney) endorsing the party nominee is going to help Rand in '16. At the least, if he refused to support Romney (which would be the principled stance) it will hurt his chances in '16 and possibly by quite a bit.

IMHO, staying neutral in the presidential race and not doing anything either to help or to hurt Romney, and just focusing on other races and projects in 2012 is the way to go.

If Romney gets elected president, and I think he probably will, then our hopes for the near future depend on the GOP turning on him. If that happens, Rand will be in the best shape if he is seen as someone who was never part of the Romney camp, but he comported himself with class. If it doesn't happen, then it won't matter because Romney will just get the nomination again in 2016 anyway.

 

[airborne373]

I am continually shocked at the total lack of sophistication of the commenters on this board.

 

[nasonex]

By endorsing Romney, Rand Paul has endorsed....

1) Big spending.
2) Wars around the world.
3) The continuation of the Patriot Act, and the war on terror.
4) The printing of money by the FED.
5) The continuation of the war on drugs.
6) High taxation.

The fact is that if you endorse a monster you ARE a monster.

 

[nasonex]

A lack of sophistication?

The fact is that unlike Rand Paul who is a total sellout, some of us refuse to compromise on our principles. I'm willing to be called unsophisticated by many if a few end up calling me principled.

Some people on this board seem to think that the end justifies the means, but it does not. If we let our principles go to obtain political gain we do not deserve that gain in the first place. My hope is that Rand Paul is voted out of the senate now that he has totally sold out.

 

[trey4sports]

IMHO, staying neutral in the presidential race and not doing anything either to help or to hurt Romney, and just focusing on other races and projects in 2012 is the way to go.

If Romney gets elected president, and I think he probably will, then our hopes for the near future depend on the GOP turning on him. If that happens, Rand will be in the best shape if he is seen as someone who was never part of the Romney camp, but he comported himself with class. If it doesn't happen, then it won't matter because Romney will just get the nomination again in 2016 anyway.

staying neutral will hurt him either way IMO. He would be relentlessly hammered in '16 for "not supporting the republican against obama," and i believe it would be a pretty big problem to tell you the truth. As it stands he can really grab a chunk of the old-guard GOP in '16 if he plays his cards right. (sells out, that is)

If Romney wins then there is no chance of a GOP candidate primarying him simply because he will govern within the politically acceptable box and do what it takes to keep us at bay. Including passing some of our legislation if we have enough power.

By endorsing Romney, Rand Paul has endorsed....

1) Big spending.
2) Wars around the world.
3) The continuation of the Patriot Act, and the war on terror.
4) The printing of money by the FED.
5) The continuation of the war on drugs.
6) High taxation.

The fact is that if you endorse a monster you ARE a monster.

don't really know what to say. You're right.

 

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

A lack of sophistication?

Interesting you assume airborne was talking about you. Why?