Good News! Bunkerville trial NOT GUILTY VERDICT!!

[Anti Federalist]

Jury nullification FTW.

 

[phill4paul]

I commend the jury for seeing through the prosecution and Judge Inquisitor Navarro's kangaroo court.

The verdicts are in for Bunkerville retrial in Las Vegas!

Out of 40 charges – 34 not guilty
Eric Parker 4 counts – hung jury
Scott Drexler 2 counts – hung jury
ZERO CONVICTIONS!

https://www.oathkeepers.org/bunkerville-retrial-verdicts-zero-convictions/

 

[donnay]

Flashback:

 

[Origanalist]

1) Trump's Afghan speech is a complete betrayal of anyone who thought he might be non-interventionist and to try to find some "silver lining" from it is wishful thinking.

2) The media has not stopped talking about white supremacy.

3) Trump's Arizona speech erased any goodwill he was getting from the media based on their love affair with war from his Afghan speech.

4) The Bundy standoff has never been successfully tied to white supremacy.

Out of rep.

 

[donnay]

Everyone needs to look up the BLM agent, Daniel P. Love. At this trial all sides were instructed to not bring up his name. Gee, I wonder why?

 

[dannno]

1) Trump's Afghan speech is a complete betrayal of anyone who thought he might be non-interventionist and to try to find some "silver lining" from it is wishful thinking.

2) The media has not stopped talking about white supremacy.

3) Trump's Arizona speech erased any goodwill he was getting from the media based on their love affair with war from his Afghan speech.

4) The Bundy standoff has never been successfully tied to white supremacy.

1. I don't care about speeches, I care about actions

4. EVERY progressive I've talked to thinks Bundy is a racist, so of course they will tie it to white nationalism or whatever, they don't care, if you are wearing a red hat they think you're a nazi...

 

[ChristianAnarchist]

1. I don't care about speeches, I care about actions

4. EVERY progressive I've talked to thinks Bundy is a racist, so of course they will tie it to white nationalism or whatever, they don't care, if you are wearing a red hat they think you're a nazi...

My red hat says "Ole Miss" on it so I'm a SUPER nazi...

 

[phill4paul]

My red hat says "Ole Miss" on it so I'm a SUPER nazi...

"Ole Miss" is racist and conjures horrific images of the Confederacy. You need a new hat. Blue in color that reads "New Miss."

 

[ChristianAnarchist]

"Ole Miss" is racist and conjures horrific images of the Confederacy. You need a new hat. Blue in color that reads "New Miss."

It's quite amazing to note that most of our "heros" are the football players and most of them are black. Don't let the lamestream media know, ok??

 

[jmdrake]

1. I don't care about speeches, I care about actions

The action of increasing military spending has already happened.....but I guess you missed that.

4. EVERY progressive I've talked to thinks Bundy is a racist, so of course they will tie it to white nationalism or whatever, they don't care, if you are wearing a red hat they think you're a nazi...

Well you should talk to more progressives. But more importantly, rank and file moderates haven't bought into that narrative. For a smear campaign to be successful it has to cover the entire political spectrum. Compare the number of people who think Bundy is racist to the number of people who think Bannon is racist and get back with me when you realize the truth of what's going on.

 

[dannno]

Well you should talk to more progressives. But more importantly, rank and file moderates haven't bought into that narrative. For a smear campaign to be successful it has to cover the entire political spectrum. Compare the number of people who think Bundy is racist to the number of people who think Bannon is racist and get back with me when you realize the truth of what's going on.

Dude, every progressive I've talked to about Bundy literally thinks that Bundy said slaves were better off during the times of slavery, which is a twisted version of what he said, and they literally think he wants black people to be slaves again.. that is totally white supremacist.. and ya they all think Bannon is racist too.

Trump campaigned on increased military (defense) spending, but also campaigned on a more non-interventionist (not totally interventionist) foreign policy.. I'm still holding him to that, there is a long ways to go, but of course I'm not totally stoked on the direction it has been going.

 

[jmdrake]

Dude, every progressive I've talked to about Bundy literally thinks that Bundy said slaves were better off during the times of slavery, which is a twisted version of what he said, and they literally think he wants black people to be slaves again.. that is totally white supremacist.. and ya they all think Bannon is racist too.

And so your experience is the totality of everything? You have become one with the universe and all knowing? Okay. Like I said, you should talk to more progressives. Most haven't even followed every aspect of the Bundy standoff. And frankly, Bundy's statement about slavery was...well...stupid. I don't think he's a racist, just an inarticulate bumblefvck.

Trump campaigned on increased military (defense) spending, but also campaigned on a more non-interventionist (not totally interventionist) foreign policy.. I'm still holding him to that, there is a long ways to go, but of course I'm not totally stoked on the direction it has been going.

Trump simultaneously campaigned on being more interventionist and being non-interventionist. Against Trump is the person that pushed for the war in Libya before later coming out against the same war. So far all of Trump's actions have been interventionist from his bombing of Syria to increased military spending to sending more troops into Iraq.

 

[jllundqu]

Love to see this made into a movie. People forget, but this was a major event in our nation's history, and the fact that they were acquitted is unreal to me. This was a real standoff that had the potential to go WACO and Ruby Ridge were it not for the numbers of patriots and cellphones recording the event.

Bravo, lady justice..... bravo.

 

[Valli6]

Daniel Love getting some attention from Congress

Everyone needs to look up the BLM agent, Daniel P. Love. At this trial all sides were instructed to not bring up his name. Gee, I wonder why?

How come we know his name and this guy doesn't?
http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/24/u...ed-his-position-to-score-burning-man-tickets/

Utah Rep Demands Name Of Fed Who Used His Position To Score Burning Man Tickets
Ethan barton
08/24/2017

House Committee on Natural Resources Chairman Rob Bishop asked a government watchdog Wednesday for an un-redacted version of a report showing that a senior law enforcement manager used his position for preferential treatment and threatened coworkers.

The Department of the Interior’s (DOI) Inspector General (IG) released a report in January detailing how the unnamed senior Bureau of Land Management (BLM) official ensured that his family received special treatment during 2015’s Burning Man in Nevada. Local news outlets reported the agent’s name as Dan Love.

The report concerns the senior manager’s “serious misconduct,” Bishop, a Utah Republican, said in a letter to Deputy IG Mary Kendall. DOI has been without a permanent IG since 2009.

The agent “violated federal ethics rules when he used his influence with Burning Man officials to obtain three sold-out tickets and special passes for his father, girlfriend, and a family friend,” the January report said.

Burning Man is a massive festival with “a history of illegal drugs, assaults, violence, and other criminal activity, in spite of its largely peaceful reputation,” the report said.

The agent used federal law enforcement officers as escorts during the festival and transported his girlfriend, who shared lodging with him in a BLM trailer, in a BLM vehicle, according to the report.

The agent also tried influencing BLM employees’ interviews with investigators and threatened his coworkers.

“You will forget you saw that,” he told a colleague who asked about his girlfriend in the vehicle.

“You know, if you don’t side with me, grenades are going to go off and you’ll get hit,” the official told a college he thought complained about his potential ethics violations.

Bishop requested the IG hand over the documents by noon Thursday...

http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/24/u...ed-his-position-to-score-burning-man-tickets/

 

[phill4paul]

This pushes the Bundys' trial back yet again while the sit and rot in jail!

Prosecutor vows 3rd trial for 2 in Bundy ranch standoff case

LAS VEGAS
The top federal prosecutor in Nevada vowed a third trial Wednesday for two men accused of armed assault on a federal officer in a 2014 standoff that stopped a cattle roundup near the ranch of states' rights figure Cliven Bundy.

"There's no question about us proceeding forward. Just so the record's clear," Acting U.S. Attorney Steven Myhre told Chief U.S. District Judge Gloria Navarro a day after a jury acquitted two defendants of all 10 charges but failed to reach verdicts on four charges against Eric Parker and two counts against Scott Drexler.

"Raising a firearm against a federal law enforcement officer, or any law enforcement officer, is a crime," Myhre declared as he lost a bid to keep the two men in federal custody until the next trial. "That's why we brought (Parker) to trial and ... intend to try him a third time."

Parker and Drexler were photographed during the standoff on a high Interstate 15 freeway overpass near Bunkerville pointing rifles through concrete sidewall barriers toward heavily armed federal agents in a dry riverbed below. The agents were guarding corrals of rounded-up cattle and facing flag-waving unarmed men, women and children.


Navarro ruled that Parker, 34, of Hailey, Idaho, and Drexler, 46, of Challis, Idaho, can return to their home state to await trial, which she scheduled Sept. 25. She also scheduled an Aug. 31 hearing to determine if the date will stand.

Keeping the September date for the two men would mean another delay starting trial for Bundy, four of his sons and six other defendants who have been in federal custody since their arrests in early 2016 despite invoking their rights to a speedy trial.

The judge had set a schedule to begin trial this year for Cliven Bundy, sons Ammon and Ryan Bundy, and co-defendants Ryan Payne and Peter Santilli. Another trial for the remaining six defendants would be held next year.

"I just never expected they'd try them a third time," Bret Whipple, Cliven Bundy's lawyer, said Wednesday when he learned of Myhre's comments. "It's such a waste of taxpayer dollars, especially when they were so close to acquittal."

In all, the jury of six men and six women reached not-guilty verdicts on 34 of 40 counts. Ricky Lovelien of Westville, Oklahoma, and Steven Stewart of Hailey, Idaho, were acquitted of all charges, even though jurors saw photos of them with weapons as well.

No verdicts were returned on assault on a federal officer, threatening a federal officer and two related of use of a firearm counts against Parker, and assault on a federal officer and brandishing a firearm charges against Drexler.

Parker's attorney, Jess Marchese, said Wednesday that a juror who remained at the courthouse on Tuesday told him that votes were 11-1 for acquittal on the six hung charges.

No defendants were found guilty of a key conspiracy charge alleging that they plotted with Bundy family members to create a self-styled militia and prevent federal Bureau of Land Management agents from enforcing court orders to remove Bundy cattle from arid desert rangeland in what is now Gold Butte National Monument.

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/business/national-business/article168918172.html#storylink=cpy

 

[jllundqu]

I want to know what the defense's argument was. I'd genuinely be interested to hear the opening and closing remarks in that case. Did he convince the jury that they (the defendants) were in the right, despite a technical violation of law?

 

[phill4paul]

I want to know what the defense's argument was. I'd genuinely be interested to hear the opening and closing remarks in that case. Did he convince the jury that they (the defendants) were in the right, despite a technical violation of law?

There really wasn't a closing argument. The defense had been hamstrung at every turn. I think the jury saw what was happening and the collusion between prosecution and Judge Navarro. http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...tice-to-be-found-at-Bunkerville-retrial/page2

 

[Ender]

There really wasn't a closing argument. The defense had been hamstrung at every turn. I think the jury saw what was happening and the collusion between prosecution and Judge Navarro. http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...tice-to-be-found-at-Bunkerville-retrial/page2

My POV, as well.

 

[ChristianAnarchist]

I want to know what the defense's argument was. I'd genuinely be interested to hear the opening and closing remarks in that case. Did he convince the jury that they (the defendants) were in the right, despite a technical violation of law?

A VERY unusual "defense" since there really wasn't any allowed. The "judge" basically ruled that they were not allowed to present any of their witnesses and even the defendants were gagged as to what they could say with one of them being shut down mid-sentence and ordered off the stand and all that he'd said stricken from the record. Since there was no defensive evidence allowed the defense lawyers agreed there was no point in closing argument as that would just give the prosecutor another rebuttal and there was no way to win. I've never heard of a defense that didn't even offer a closing argument before but the jury must have seen what a sham this was and ruled accordingly. I would like to know why after all that there was ONE holdout juror who would not vote not-guilty on a couple of the charges when they had just unanimously voted not-guilty on all the others...

 

[jllundqu]

A VERY unusual "defense" since there really wasn't any allowed. The "judge" basically ruled that they were not allowed to present any of their witnesses and even the defendants were gagged as to what they could say with one of them being shut down mid-sentence and ordered off the stand and all that he'd said stricken from the record. Since there was no defensive evidence allowed the defense lawyers agreed there was no point in closing argument as that would just give the prosecutor another rebuttal and there was no way to win. I've never heard of a defense that didn't even offer a closing argument before but the jury must have seen what a sham this was and ruled accordingly. I would like to know why after all that there was ONE holdout juror who would not vote not-guilty on a couple of the charges when they had just unanimously voted not-guilty on all the others...

Thanks. Sucks the prosecutor wants to waste more time and money on another trial.