Goldman Sachs collapsing, lets hope so

Why the hell are you guys hoping that a major financial institution fails?

Are you wishing for a depression?

Of course they are hoping for a depression or violent revolution. If you have nothing to lose and no stake in the system, then why not?

I've put my savings into short term bonds at treasurydirect.gov.

Treasuries through treasurydirect.gov are the only place you can protect your money through a central custodian default. I doubt the system could survive the default of another major player.

The people buying gold mining stocks make me laugh the most. If you don't hold the certificates your gold mining stock will disappear in a systemic collapse.
 
Of course they are hoping for a depression or violent revolution. If you have nothing to lose and no stake in the system, then why not?

I've put my savings into short term bonds at treasurydirect.gov.

Treasuries through treasurydirect.gov are the only place you can protect your money through a central custodian default. I doubt the system could survive the default of another major player.

The people buying gold mining stocks make me laugh the most. If you don't hold the certificates your gold mining stock will disappear in a systemic collapse.


What? You really feel safe with your "investments" in a collapse?
 
Why the hell are you guys hoping that a major financial institution fails?

Are you wishing for a depression?

GS is a major financial institution? Last I checked they didn't have any branches, don't contribute value to the system it works within, nor does GS do anything except enrich those that work for that "financial institution" through fraud, misrepresentation, and regulatory capture. Not only would there NOT be a depression solely from the "loss" of GS, the American taxpayer would be a lot better off! Im perfectly ok if Goldman goes away and never comes back. We'll all be more prosperous for it.
 
Shush and accept that you're a pilgrim and need financial overlords!!

GS is a major financial institution? Last I checked they didn't have any branches, don't contribute value to the system it works within, nor does GS do anything except enrich those that work for that "financial institution" through fraud, misrepresentation, and regulatory capture. Not only would there NOT be a depression solely from the "loss" of GS, the American taxpayer would be a lot better off! Im perfectly ok if Goldman goes away and never comes back. We'll all be more prosperous for it.
 
GS is a major financial institution? Last I checked they didn't have any branches, don't contribute value to the system it works within, nor does GS do anything except enrich those that work for that "financial institution" through fraud, misrepresentation, and regulatory capture. Not only would there NOT be a depression solely from the "loss" of GS, the American taxpayer would be a lot better off! Im perfectly ok if Goldman goes away and never comes back. We'll all be more prosperous for it.
No doubt. Hopefully we can get most of these counterfeiting criminals behind bars soon.
 
Boom is over alrady?

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If Goldman croaks, who goes down with them?

My uncle and his ridiculous mansion. I guess his live-in swimming instructor for his 3 year old kid will have to go too. Forget the effects on the market, I want to see this.
 
if you think anything is going to happen to this guy, you need to come back to reality.
 
My uncle and his ridiculous mansion. I guess his live-in swimming instructor for his 3 year old kid will have to go too. Forget the effects on the market, I want to see this.

This reminds me a great deal of the leftist mindset. Wishing ill-will towards people who have more money than you do.
 
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This whole "too big to fail" BS story amazes me. Not that the handful of criminals who have wrested the US from it's citizens have had the balls to coin the phrase in such an out of context fashion, but rather I'm amazed at how many people have sucked it in.

The real "Too Big To Fail" entity has been left to whither on the vine throughout the "crisis" while the small handful of criminals who have adopted the term as their misnomer have systematically looted the fuck out of our treasury, foreign governments and pension funds.

Since the SBA defines a small business as any with 500 employees or less, that comprises 95% of all businesses in the US. While the 1/2 dozen insolvent banks and their foreign buddies received 16 trillion in emergency loans at .01%, small businesses received $800 billion, $125 billion of which was financed through credit cards at an average interest rate of 16%.

While the 1/2 dozen insolvent banks had their shit assets purchased by the Fed at 100 cents on the dollar and were allowed to park the proceeds at the Fed and receive interest on those "excess reserves" (NOTE: Don't forget that the Emergency Financial Stabilization Act of 2008 allows reserve amounts "which may be zero" so that all bank deposits technically may be parked at the Fed to earn interest instead of being lent), small businesses (95% of US companies), 90% of which own real estate that they use to collateralize their business loans, had to watch helplessly as their properties fell in value, causing most to be denied any credit at all.

GS funneled cash through Fannie/Freddie into its coffers, got untold loans at .01%, moved people into the gov't to assure they would not be thwarted, engaged in high speed trading, robbed pensions by falsifying currency trading statements, caused the meltdown in Greece, bought fraudulent shit mortgages, sold them as AAA and shorted them, allowed wives of executives to scam bailout programs, gamed the stock market and allowed Obama to become POTUS by showering millions on his campaign, among many more and worse crimes.

Yet, we have shills in this forum who play constant bag lapper to that poisonous shithole of a gaggle of thieves, preaching that we can't live without them.

I'd rather live in Tripoli right now than stay here and buy the "too big to fail" meme. GS IS the problem. If we can't survive if they collapse, we have nothing worth saving in the first place. Pull the rug out from under these insolvent criminal enterprises and let the 95% left standing get the fuck on with it.

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This reminds me a great deal of the leftist mindset. Wishing ill-will towards people who have more money than you do.

Yes. But things get confusing because we have allowed government to create ways of getting rich without serving your fellow man or meeting consumer demand. For example, Bill Gates, who, like him or not, got rich by serving consumers, is an entirely different matter than Hank Paulson. I am happy to see the former using his wealth however he likes. Paulson I would like to see living in a refrigerator box.
 
This reminds me a great deal of the leftist mindset. Wishing ill-will towards people who have more money than you do.

Yes, but you know nothing about him. What he has done to my immediate family is what makes me wish ill-will towards him. It has absolutely nothing to do with my political affiliation.
 
Based on what?

How is a profitable, competitive business operating in a free market feeding from the prosperity of our country?

Look up the definition of depression.

Based on the bailouts. Free Market? What free market? LOL

Goldman Sachs is the epitome of Crony Capitalism.
 
GS is a major financial institution? Last I checked they didn't have any branches, don't contribute value to the system it works within, nor does GS do anything except enrich those that work for that "financial institution" through fraud, misrepresentation, and regulatory capture. Not only would there NOT be a depression solely from the "loss" of GS, the American taxpayer would be a lot better off! Im perfectly ok if Goldman goes away and never comes back. We'll all be more prosperous for it.
In a free society, there would be firms like goldman sachs (except that they wouldn't make money by borrowing from the fed at 1% and lending to the govt at 3% and get bailed out when they screw up). There is/always will be demand for financial firms that bring together institutional borrowers and institutional lenders and provide the services they need. If you need a few $billion to expand your business or need to process the sale of you fortune 1000 business, you call goldman sachs, wells fargo, morgan stanley etc.. They have the smartest minds in finance.
 
In a free society, there would be firms like goldman sachs (except that they wouldn't make money by borrowing from the fed at 1% and lending to the govt at 3% and get bailed out when they screw up). There is/always will be demand for financial firms that bring together institutional borrowers and institutional lenders and provide the services they need. If you need a few $billion to expand your bussiness or need to process the sale of you fortune 1000 business, you call goldman sachs, wells fargo, morgan stanley etc.. They have the smartest minds in finance.

But what is to stop them from from becoming a monopoly by crushing/acquiring smaller banks. Example Korea and Japan both had unregulated financial markets prior to their crash. In other hand india and China gov have very tight control and as result their banks did n't over leverage.
 
Yes, but you know nothing about him. What he has done to my immediate family is what makes me wish ill-will towards him. It has absolutely nothing to do with my political affiliation.

Fair enough. I guess it was the way you said it. Talking about his "ridiculous mansion", etc.
 
Yes. But things get confusing because we have allowed government to create ways of getting rich without serving your fellow man or meeting consumer demand. For example, Bill Gates, who, like him or not, got rich by serving consumers, is an entirely different matter than Hank Paulson. I am happy to see the former using his wealth however he likes. Paulson I would like to see living in a refrigerator box.

I totally understand. The bailouts and other crony capitalism has to stop. But, I also think we need to be careful not to be feeding into the type of class warfare that the power-that-be so seem to want to ignite. It's not the fact that someone has wealth that is to be abhorred; in fact rags-to-riches due to hard work and ingenuity is the American way. The thing we should hate is when people use the government to get special favors, whether they be loopholes, bailouts, or whatever.
 
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