Goal NOT Reached - What does this mean?

[davidhperry]

What pushes you to support Huck? Im curious.

I was about to ask that too - do tell.

 

[ClayTrainor]

I will not go away! I simply refuse... Bash me! I enjoy it! Like I said it shows me exactly how logical you guys are. It tells me you'd rather attack me than debate me...

Survive HA whatever! have fun guys while you bash me. It will give me ammo to remove your support on many of my close neighbors. I suggest you pick your words carefully...

u want a debate? give me something to debate you about and u got it.

I didnt bash you at all... just made a suggestion... we've had many people like you here before, for multiple candidates, and im saying they dont last, im guessing your time devoted here, could be better served for your candidate if you are trying to get donations and promote his message to people you think will understand it, afterall, that is what we do.

I will respect you and not bash you... tell me what you want to debate about and u got it my friend.

 

[nayjevin]

What does it mean? Who cares? It is what it is.

The campaign set a goal.

Grassroots set another one.

The people fell 35,000 short of the campaign's goal.

Let's see what we can do between the 5th & 11th of November.

 

[njandrewg]

You know what this is simply amazing. You think I'm attacking Ron Paul? Wow that is quite a joke. I respect the man and in fact he is my second choice for president! Sure you have heard the arguments but you have never addressed them... that is your flaw...

I did not say you attacked...I said we heard your "arguments"...and I use that term loosely time and time again.

Ok what arguments do you have against Ron Paul that forces you to support Huckabee? (the mere fact that you support Huckabee over Paul, just goes to show me that you haven't done your research)

 

[Shogun108]

Spit out the bones man... welcome to the forums.. Im glad you could make it..


Not that you expected a warm hug or anything..


What pushes you to support Huck? Im curious.

Of course I did not expect a warm reception. If I wanted to be liked I would have not registered! At least some people here are sensible... Thank you Seth.

I like his government downsizing ideals, but there are some issues such as the economy which I think he could do better on. I'd explain here, but I have already elsewhere. here

 

[ClayTrainor]

it's amazing how you support Huck, and then choose Paul as your 2nd choice?

Do you realize how wildly different their views are?

 

[njandrewg]

Of course I did not expect a warm reception. If I wanted to be liked I would have not registered! At least some people here are sensible... Thank you Seth.

I like his government downsizing ideals, but there are some issues such as the economy which I think he could do better on. I'd explain here, but I have already elsewhere. here

wtf you just want to blog spam...do you honestly expect ANYONE to read all that crap? How about some cliff notes?

What are top 3 issues that are important to you

 

[Cali4RonPaul]

All right so I'll take the money since october 1st to five days ago out of the picture...

I believe that was about $ 60,000 So you know what Huck has stronger backing than you think. And don't call someone's post BS. You sound like a complete moron...

Oh well accept it or not Huck has even had to change servers because his contribution and traffic reached such a high level.



HAHA! I guess some of you guys do have a sense of humor. Here I thought you where all like anotherone, but you are still overly critical and that reduces your credibility.

Thats excellent, I hope Huck will continue his rise, because it can only be at the expense of the top tier, The Republican Coalition is so fractured right now, We hope you will do your part and take evangelical support away from Romney, paving the way for Ron Paul victories on the early primary states, NH is ours. Divide up the others and help Ron Paul thanks. You think Huck is underestimated, Ron Paul supporters are coming from all walks of life, 1st time voters, independents, libertarians, freedom lovers, democrats, taft republicans etc. etc. the MSM cant put their finger on us, be prepared for a big shock come voting time. Huck's support base is spent, they are getting so turned off from politics they might have a small rally at the polls towards the ends but it will only add to confusion.

 

[njandrewg]

it's amazing how you support Huck, and then choose Paul as your 2nd choice?

Do you realize how wildly different their views are?

thats because Hucakbee tries to play the "conservative" role in the debates and fools people who do not take the time to review his record.

 

[davidhperry]

Of course I did not expect a warm reception. If I wanted to be liked I would have not registered! At least some people here are sensible... Thank you Seth.

I like his government downsizing ideals, but there are some issues such as the economy which I think he could do better on. I'd explain here, but I have already elsewhere. here

He talks a lot about shrinking government but his record is just the opposite. I mean, they call him "Tax Hike Mike" for a reason - the size of the Arkansas budget ballooned during his tenure. Like you said, do we really an economy like the one in Arkansas? (Hint: NO!) Even the roads are hideous, have you ever driven in Arkansas?

 

[ClayTrainor]

Shogun...from your article

"I think preemptivity is justified for our national defense. True I want our troops home as much as any American, but not now! When we can leave with honor then we can leave."

When will this honor be earned? what do we need to do to have honor?

Pre-emptive war is a scary premise, it can be so misused and gives the president too much power.

if america is under imminent attack, then yes, pre-emptive war may be necessary, but nothing in iraq suggested we were under imminent attack.

 

[njandrewg]

Shogun...you do realize your ass will be the first one drafted when we bog down in Iran?

 

[Shogun108]

it's amazing how you support Huck, and then choose Paul as your 2nd choice?

Do you realize how wildly different their views are?

Yes I do, but these two are the only two true Republicans on the ballots the front runners are liberals. Paul is a Libertarian with some values against my own, but otherwise he is similar to my own beliefs.

Top Three issues: War, Economy, Freedom

No Paul: Leaves Iraq, Supports Lazzie-Faire, However he is amazing with bureaucracy!

Yes Huckabee: Will stay till victory, Fair Tax, Could be better with government waste programs...

Also I do not intend to spam your forums, but don't you think we are off topic now? Email me or go to the thread about me in these forums. Right now your just flooding this topic with irrelevant posts. I still would like to debate... but not here...

 

[Shogun108]

Shogun...you do realize your ass will be the first one drafted when we bog down in Iran?

Sure! I assure you though I will voulenteer WAY before I am drafted!

 

[Lord Xar]

Ok guys so what I'm a Huck supporter in the Ron Paul Forums. Maybe I'm interested in the Dr? The reception I receive tells me wonders about you guys! I enjoy you bashing me. It makes me feel all the more correct. Ignore me or silence me, but you know what? You guys need to stop being such close minded adamants and simply accept and analyze the opponent's view.

I guess objectivity is impossible with some people though...

You are playing the victim to lend credibility to your cause. You came here preaching wrong numbers and pushing an agenda. I am not sure what you would expect.

Think on this for a quick second. We allow you to post here and be part of the team and we are not disparaging you until you lay claim to inaccurate fundraising numbers and become obvious.. but know this. The WHOLE MSM machine and all its affiliate neo-conned websites are banning Ron Paul, not because of any MSM generated keywords - like "crazy or insane etc..", but because freedom is popular and if you are truly informed you would know the grave danger this country faces. You would read up on it and find out why Ron Paul is spreading like wildfire and why the powers that be IGNORE AND BELITTLE HIM.

Does a lion acknowledge an ant that crosses its path? No, it doesn't. But if that lion sees a threat, what does it do?

You see, the more they ignore and condemn Ron Paul, the more telling it is.

Also, why would you support Huckster when he is obviously coveting Ron Paul's positions verbatim. He sees how powerful it is. Also, Huckster is pro-amnesty and voted down a bill to forbid illegals from voting.. so, his honour is in question. He is shill for the establishment.

Watch this youtube video. I watched it today. Its rather poignent, and only Ron Paul has a bearing of the troubles that are approaching..

Naomi Wolf's lecture called the 'End of America'

P.S. There is nothing very fair about the fair tax, its still a huge amount. I'd rather pay NO federal taxes, than a pretty worded one called "fair tax".

 

[Shogun108]

if america is under imminent attack, then yes, pre-emptive war may be necessary, but nothing in iraq suggested we were under imminent attack.

All right this is my last response in this thread. I just would like to ask you to remember 9/11. These are not peaceful times ClayTrainor we have a group of people ready to attack us at home...

 

[Kacela]

Of course I did not expect a warm reception. If I wanted to be liked I would have not registered! At least some people here are sensible... Thank you Seth.

I like his government downsizing ideals, but there are some issues such as the economy which I think he could do better on. I'd explain here, but I have already elsewhere. here

Shogun108 - I just read your blog comparison between Paul and Huckabee - You have been misinformed about Dr. Pauls stance on foreign policy. You imply that International law takes precedence with him, and that is totally opposite of his position - that's why he wants us out of all the sovereignty-endagering globalist organizations like the WTO... You also imply that Dr, Paul is FOR the UN - again your blog is wrong. Dr. Paul wants us out of the UN as fast as possible! You need to correct your blog ( http://millerkevd.wordpress.com/ )

 

[Gimme Some Truth]

All right so I'll take the money since october 1st to five days ago out of the picture...

I believe that was about $ 60,000 So you know what Huck has stronger backing than you think. And don't call someone's post BS. You sound like a complete moron...

Oh well accept it or not Huck has even had to change servers because his contribution and traffic reached such a high level.



HAHA! I guess some of you guys do have a sense of humor. Here I thought you where all like anotherone, but you are still overly critical and that reduces your credibility.

Ok talk to him about credibility when you don't lie about Huckerbee's fundraising.

You are very welcome here. However, dont expect a red carpet when you say your here with an open mind and then lie to make your chosen candidate seem more credible.

Ron raised over 1.7 mill in the time huckerbee raised that small amount.

Ron raised 5.4 mill in the last quarter whilst huckerbee barely got 1mill ( i believe- correct me if i am wrong on huckerbees Q3 earnings)

 

[ClayTrainor]

Disagree with Shogun all you want, but he is right about one thing

we are throwing this Thread way off topic.

If you want to debate him, go to this thread

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=26381&highlight=shogun

 

[literatim]

Of course I did not expect a warm reception. If I wanted to be liked I would have not registered! At least some people here are sensible... Thank you Seth.

I like his government downsizing ideals, but there are some issues such as the economy which I think he could do better on. I'd explain here, but I have already elsewhere. here

Didn't Huckabee raise taxes in Arkansas far and above what Clinton ever did when he was Governor?

Also, do you support his pro-illegal immigration stances?

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No Paul: Leaves Iraq, Supports Lazzie-Faire, However he is amazing with bureaucracy!

Yes Huckabee: Will stay till victory, Fair Tax, Could be better with government waste programs...

May I ask what victory in Iraq actually is?

Sure! I assure you though I will voulenteer WAY before I am drafted!

You do realize that if the war spreads in Iran, we are looking at World War 3? No one wins in World War 3.

All right this is my last response in this thread. I just would like to ask you to remember 9/11. These are not peaceful times ClayTrainor we have a group of people ready to attack us at home...

Neither Iraq nor Iran attacked us.