Global Warming huh...On pace to be coldest July EVER

[Danke]

One other thing, warming in the past occured over tens of thousands of years. What we have today is warming over ten or twenty years. We have more warming in 20 years than ANY natural warming event in the past. All of you are refusing to acknowledge that. And there is only one cause for that quickening. Humans - their technology and their burning of fossile fuels, logging of massive forests to replaced with grass or tiny saplings far below what is considered replacement or sustainable.

I am all for Ron Paul on most of his issues. But I guarantee you, when he has the time to look deeply into the matter, he will find that global warming is for real and that there is clear evidence it is human caused.

Wildlander

Not true, we have been cooling in the past 10 years. My ancestors cultivated the cold lands of Greenland in the not too distant past, but cold over took the climate quickly and they had to abandon their farms. Greenland was much warmer than now, back then.

 

[Conservative Christian]

Not true, we have been cooling in the past 10 years. My ancestors cultivated the cold lands of Greenland in the not too distant past, but cold over took the climate quickly and they had to abandon their farms. Greenland was much warmer than now, back then.

"16) A July 2007 analysis of peer-reviewed literature thoroughly debunks fears of Greenland and the Arctic melting and predictions of a frightening sea level rise. Excerpt: "Research in 2006 found that Greenland has been warming since the 1880’s, but since 1955, temperature averages at Greenland stations have been colder than the period between 1881-1955. A 2006 study found Greenland has cooled since the 1930's and 1940's, with 1941 being the warmest year on record.

Another 2006 study concluded Greenland was as warm or warmer in the 1930’s and 40’s and the rate of warming from 1920-1930 was about 50% higher than the warming from 1995-2005. One 2005 study found Greenland gaining ice in the interior higher elevations and thinning ice at the lower elevations. In addition, the often media promoted fears of Greenland’s ice completely melting and a subsequent catastrophic sea level rise are directly at odds with the latest scientific studies." [See July 30, 2007 Report - Latest Scientific Studies Refute Fears of Greenland Melt –"

http://epw.senate.gov/public/index....ecord_id=175B568A-802A-23AD-4C69-9BDD978FB3CD

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[Conservative Christian]

"I am a skeptic…Global warming has become a new religion."

Dr. Ivar Giaever
Nobel Prize Winner, Physics

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[Conservative Christian]

"Since I am no longer affiliated with any organization nor receiving any funding, I canspeak quite frankly....As a scientist I remain skeptical...The main basis of the claim that man’s release of greenhouse gases is the cause of the warming is based almost entirely upon climate models. We all know the frailty of models concerning the air-surface system."

Dr. Joanne Simpson, Atmospheric Scientist
The first woman in the world to receive a PhD in meteorology, and formerly of NASA, who has authored more than 190 studies and has been called "among the most preeminent scientists of the last 100 years."

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[Conservative Christian]

"The IPCC has actually become a closed circuit; it doesn’t listen to others. It doesn’t have open minds…I am really amazed that the Nobel Peace Prize has been given on scientifically incorrect conclusions by people who are not geologists."

Dr. Arun D. Ahluwalia, Geologist
Punjab University
Board member of the UN-supported International Year of the Planet.

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[Conservative Christian]

"Anyone who claims that the [global warming] debate is over and the conclusions are firm, has a fundamentally unscientific approach to one of the most momentous issues of our time."

Dr. Pal Brekke, Solar Physicist
Senior advisor to the Norwegian Space Centre in Oslo.
Brekke has published more than 40 peer-reviewed scientific articles on the sun and solar interaction with the Earth.

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[Objectivist]

That headline is inaccurate.

http://www.scotese.com/climate.htm

 

[Conservative Christian]

"It is a blatant lie put forth in the media that makes it seem there is only a fringe of scientists who don’t buy into anthropogenic global warming."

Dr. Stanley B. Goldenberg, Atmospheric Scientist
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration--Hurricane Research Division

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[Conservative Christian]

"I am convinced that the current alarm over carbon dioxide is mistaken...Fears about man-made global warming are unwarranted and are not based on good science."

Dr. Will Happer, Physicist
National Academy of Sciences--Member
Princeton University--Physics Professor

Has published over 200 peer-reviewed scientific papers, and is a fellow of the American Physical Society and The American Association for the Advancement of Science

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[literatim]

Great quotes.

 

[Conservative Christian]

"CO2 emissions make absolutely no difference one way or another....Every scientist knows this, but it doesn’t pay to say so...Global warming, as a political vehicle, keeps Europeans in the driver’s seat and developing nations walking barefoot."

Dr. Takeda Kunihiko
Chubu University---Vice-chancellor of the Institute of Science and Technology Research

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[Conservative Christian]

"Earth has cooled since 1998 in defiance of the predictions by the UN-IPCC....The global temperature for 2007 was the coldest in a decade and the coldest of the millennium...which is why ‘global warming’ is now called ‘climate change.’"

Dr. Richard Keen, Climatologist
University of Colorado--Department of Atmospheric and Oceanic Sciences

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[paulitics]

Conservative Christian: Are these statements that you are quoting peer reviewed? Only peer reviewed statements form peer reviewed scientists, who are writing in peer reviewed journals matter. All other opinions have an agenda. IDIOTS! WAKE UP! Stop being intellectually dishonest. The vast majority of scientists agree that global warming is real, just like the vast majority of historians believe the holocaust happened. You wil never have 100% agreement on anything. WAKE UP! /end sarcasm

 

[StayTrue]

One other thing, warming in the past occured over tens of thousands of years. What we have today is warming over ten or twenty years. We have more warming in 20 years than ANY natural warming event in the past. All of you are refusing to acknowledge that. And there is only one cause for that quickening. Humans - their technology and their burning of fossile fuels, logging of massive forests to replaced with grass or tiny saplings far below what is considered replacement or sustainable.

I am all for Ron Paul on most of his issues. But I guarantee you, when he has the time to look deeply into the matter, he will find that global warming is for real and that there is clear evidence it is human caused.

Wildlander

Paul is not a scientist. He bases his political life on the Constitution and his 30+ year study of Austrian economics.

When Paul talked about Global Warming during the Cap and Trade Bill debate, he brought up the 32,000 (according to you only 20%, Im waiting for your list of 160,000 for it) scientists who signed off against it. Why should he insist, like Al Gore, that the debate is over, and Global warming is definitly man-made, when 32,000 scientists, have signed off against it.

The Al Gore side said the debate is over, when clearly it is not. Absurd statements like that, which are only backed up by "people also thought we didn't man on the moon" when questioned, usually don't win over any rational thinkers, especially when there is a ton of evidence to the contrary.

Paul also hates taxes, and the Man-made Global Warming crowds great solution is to tax C02 consumption. Buying your carbon credits from a company Al Gore has significant involvement in and will profit from (environmental industrial complex anyone)

So we have: "The debate is over (clearly isn't), so we must tax you"

Definitley sounds like something up Ron Paul's alley .

 

[TonySutton]

2009 has silently moved into 10th place for most days without sunspots in the last 100 years. We now have the last 3 years in the top 10 list and 2009 still has nearly half a year to go.

There are still many things we do not know about our sun and how it influences the weather on earth.

 

[acptulsa]

There are still many things we do not know about our sun and how it influences the weather on earth.

Correct. But the Democrats certainly seem to have figured out how to tax us to death for our ignorance.

 

[ChickenHawk]

I didn't read the whole thread so this may have been pointed out already. What does the weather in New York have to do with Global Warming? I could easily point to the fact the Seattle has had one of, if not the the driest, warmest springs and summers on record and say that it proves global warming. In fact today has been forecasted to be the hottest day on record in Seattle. It is the first time ever that a triple digit temperature has been forecasted and last night was the first night on record that it didn't drop below 70 degrees. Every year I can remember that we have had a warm dry summer the NE has had a cool wet one. I don't think any of this proves, or is evidence, of whether or not global warming is real.

 

[BenIsForRon]

Paul is not a scientist. He bases his political life on the Constitution and his 30+ year study of Austrian economics.

When Paul talked about Global Warming during the Cap and Trade Bill debate, he brought up the 32,000 (according to you only 20%, Im waiting for your list of 160,000 for it) scientists who signed off against it. Why should he insist, like Al Gore, that the debate is over, and Global warming is definitly man-made, when 32,000 scientists, have signed off against it.

The Al Gore side said the debate is over, when clearly it is not. Absurd statements like that, which are only backed up by "people also thought we didn't man on the moon" when questioned, usually don't win over any rational thinkers, especially when there is a ton of evidence to the contrary.

Paul also hates taxes, and the Man-made Global Warming crowds great solution is to tax C02 consumption. Buying your carbon credits from a company Al Gore has significant involvement in and will profit from (environmental industrial complex anyone)

So we have: "The debate is over (clearly isn't), so we must tax you"

Definitley sounds like something up Ron Paul's alley .

That petition was bullshit. Many of the Phd's were vets. Others were people with BS's and BA's in all kinds of sciences. I'm saying look at what Climatologists are saying. They actually do have a significant consensus in support of global warming.

I'll post some related shit when I have time. I really wish Conservative Christian would stop spamming this thread though. He's just posting every article he finds, I could do the same thing.

 

[Krugerrand]

That petition was bullshit. Many of the Phd's were vets. Others were people with BS's and BA's in all kinds of sciences. I'm saying look at what Climatologists are saying. They actually do have a significant consensus in support of global warming.

I'll post some related shit when I have time. I really wish Conservative Christian would stop spamming this thread though. He's just posting every article he finds, I could do the same thing.

Climatology is becoming a business to support the political desires of the Al Gores for the world. Even their "peer review" is suspect.

I compare it to Psychology. It's a filed that unstable people pursue to try and find out what's wrong with themselves. I don't trust the conclusions of unstable peer review (psychology). I don't trust the conclusions of our-job-depends-on-these-conclusions peers. (climatologists)

 

[BenIsForRon]

Climatologists were around long before the theory of global warming. Many of the climatologists on the IPCC were serious scientists long before warming came into the mainstream.