Glenn must be losing his base.

[specsaregood]

then Israel should stop relying on handouts

No, republicans are supposed to think that international socialism is good.

 

[Icymudpuppy]

Why are modern Christians so obsessed with Israel? This is a serous question because I seem to lack an undestanding of this issue.

I only have limited understanding of Christianity and Judaism. Were the Jews not the ones who rejected Christ and had him crucified? Did the Jews not persecute and expel his followers from Israel? Did the coming of Christ not fulfill the prophecy of the Jews and make their homeland and temple irrelevant? Were Jews not despised by Christians for thousands of years?

What changed recently that made Christians become so subservient to Jewish interests?

Serious question.

They have been led to believe that the creation of the Jewish State of Israel is fulfillment of the prophecy of Ezekiel.

Unfortunately, they seem to forget that Jesus was already the fulfillment of the prophecies of the Old testament, and that is why a new testament was laid down.

 

[AuH20]

No, Beck is demonstrably stupid. Anyone, even those I hold dear to me, that subscribes to the belief that a people are entitled to a parcel of Earth "because God said so" is, sadly, stupid. Furthermore, anyone who expects an invisible man that lives in the clouds to swoop down and smite one's enemies is also, sadly, not only stupid, but also hopeless.

Rather than arguing pointlessly with me over whether or not Mr. Beck is certifiably dumb (he is), why not discuss with the thread methods by which Ron Paul supporters can bridge the gap between ignorance and intelligence? We would be the first in recorded history to pull off that feat.

Sure, we could begin by not posing our questions in a condescending manner, but hey, fuck it - this is the internet. Sarcasm doesn't work well here.

Given my brief time on this planet and my biologically limited ant-like perspective, I don't know what to think. As presumptuous as it is to think that God will play a role on this battle on Earth, by the same token it is presumptuous for us to even conceive what lies beyond. It is not inconceivable that Glenn Beck could be right. His faith could be correct but Israel's behavior is certainly puzzling, which ties into the Khazar theory.

 

[Original_Intent]

Wow, I posted a relatively supportive comment, but said that he needed to read George Washington's farewell address regarding entangling alliances and understand that our relationship with Israel is pretty much a textbook example of what Washington was warning against. And they wouldn't post the comment, unless you gung-ho support what Beck says OR slam Ron Paul, your comment will not get posted. Which indicates a fear of addressing the issue, knowing deep down that you are wrong.

 

[Deborah K]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again - the republicans cannot win without RP supporters. Beck acknowledges that in this piece. We have a lot of power this time around, imo. What we do with it, is the key to winning.

 

[ctiger2]

I got my Israel pin on! lol! Beck calls them religious crazy people. Well, that's the kettle calling the pot black now Glenn...

 

[AuH20]

I just posted this on 912. It will help people think for a change:

http://www.the912project.us/forum/t...vative-jew-barry-goldwater-was-fearful-of-the

 

[AuH20]

What's the difference between wearing a Mexican flag pin or an Israeli flag pin? They are both in poor taste.

 

[Travlyr]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again - the republicans cannot win without RP supporters. Beck acknowledges that in this piece. We have a lot of power this time around, imo. What we do with it, is the key to winning.

QFT! And since there is virtually no difference between the Republicans & Democrats, then the Democrats cannot win without RP supporters either. Ron Paul is telling the truth. The truth is powerful. Persistence is the key.

RPH's sig,

"Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence.Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan 'press on' has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race."
~ C.Coolidge

"Press On" ... No Matter What.

 

[COpatriot]

To whoever wrote a negative book review for Beck's new book on Amazon, I applaud you. Very well said. Beck even read it on-air so he could have a chance to trash RP and RP supporters again and for his two mongoloid butt-buddy co-hosts to crack a few sophomoric jokes too.

 

[QuickZ06]

What's the difference between wearing a Mexican flag pin or an Israeli flag pin? They are both in poor taste.

I agree, he should try the American Pin out. It looks better anyways.

 

[rambone]

I'll be straight foreword for you. If you don't worship Israel, you won't be elected President. How's that for a "definition" of SUPPORT?

What about Barack Obama?

 

[jazzloversinc]

I used to love Beck...but I can't listen to him anymore. Something happened when he said this "reform jewish rabbis are like the jihadhists....more interested in politics than religion" and 600 rabbi's boycotted his show and got him kicked off of FOX...they did what Obama could NOT do...for some reason he is still atoning for that sin. BLECH

 

[TheDrakeMan]

No, he's clouded by his religious beliefs to such a degree that he can't or won't see the inherent danger. The bible and Book of Mormon says that we should stand with the jews but I'm not so sure those are the jews, if you get my drift. By the same token, I'm not fond of the Arabs either. I think we should just altogether ignore the Middle East.

I'm actually confused why Mormons hold Israel in high regard. I know there are verses in the BoM that say Jews/Judahites should be respected for giving the law to the lost tribes and to gentiles. But there are also a few blatantly anti-Jewish verses that accuse them of killing Jesus (2 Nephi 10:3 - 6) Hopefully a Mormon can clarify.

Why are modern Christians so obsessed with Israel? This is a serous question because I seem to lack an undestanding of this issue.

I only have limited understanding of Christianity and Judaism. Were the Jews not the ones who rejected Christ and had him crucified? Did the Jews not persecute and expel his followers from Israel? Did the coming of Christ not fulfill the prophecy of the Jews and make their homeland and temple irrelevant? Were Jews not despised by Christians for thousands of years?

What changed recently that made Christians become so subservient to Jewish interests?

Serious question.

It's the political Israel vs. Spiritual Israel argument. The Bible mentions Israel many times in prophecy and many Zionist Christians interpret 'Israel' as being the modern day state of Israel. Others think 'Israel' just means Christians. And I've met some who believe Israel = Jews in general.

 

[FrankRep]

What about Barack Obama?

Obama: I‘ve Done More for Israel’s Security Than Any Other Administration
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/oba...raels-security-than-any-other-administration/

 

[loweredd]

But there are also a few blatantly anti-Jewish verses that accuse them of killing Jesus (2 Nephi 10:3 - 6) Hopefully a Mormon can clarify.

Those verses aren't anti-Jewish.........


3) Wherefore, as I said unto you, it must needs be expedient that Christ—for in the last night the angel spake unto me that this should be his name— should come among the Jews, among those who are the more wicked part of the world; and they shall crucify him— for thus it behooveth our God, and there is none other nation on earth that would crucify their God.

4)For should the mighty miracles be wrought among other nations they would repent, and know that he be their God.

5)But because of priestcrafts and iniquities, they at Jerusalem will stiffen their necks against him, that he be crucified.

6)Wherefore, because of their iniquities, destructions, famines, pestilences, and bloodshed shall come upon them; and they who shall not be destroyed shall be scattered among all nations.


God is telling Jacob that the Jews were the only ones who would deny Christ was the King that was foretold. 4 says that if it was any other people, they would recognize that he was the one. The Jews were looking for a literal King, not some lowly son of a carpenter.