Glenn Beck's ratings down

[AGRP]

Glenn Beck asked her directly if she thought the US government was involved in 9/11.

Medina: "I have not taken a position on that"​

Political Suicide.

You should probably stick to spamming articles/links and brush up on the debating skills.

 

[specsaregood]

Glenn Beck asked her directly if she thought the US government was involved in 9/11.

Medina: "I have not taken a position on that"​

Political Suicide.

No, what is Political Homocide was Glenn Beck equating, "some good questions have been raised"(Medina) with "Hitler had some good ideas"(Beck).

 

[Anti Federalist]

Nope, in Politics, that's suicidal.

Then maybe the conversation ought to be why that is, and not so much what Debra Medina thinks about an issue.

We're in the mess we are in precisely because so many things are "political suicide" to talk about.

 

[TCE]

It is obvious Beck was setting her up. He wanted ratings and got them, so mission accomplished. Did he ask Kay Bailey Hutchison or Rick Perry if they were? I don't think so. Yes, Medina answered that just about the worst way a non-truther could, but Beck was licking his chops to set her up. Listening to the audio, it is likely Beck muted his audio to make her look even worse. Even one of the North Texas radio stations claimed they were pretty sure that is what Beck did. Medina said in interviews after that she didn't hear him.

In conclusion: Medina screwed up big time, but Beck was setting her up to mess up.

 

[speciallyblend]

beck2012.com seems more inline for beck threads!!

 

[Feeding the Abscess]

Are you defending Beck's actions here?

Of course he is, Beck is reciting McManus' talking points to a t.

 

[Zatch]

Glenn Beck was a douche to his callers too:

 

[Zatch]

 

[Nate-ForLiberty]

Glenn Beck was a douche to his callers too:

Does anything more need to be said here?

We tried to warn people, "Glen Beck is honey honey poison. He'll torpedo our efforts."
What did we hear in reply, "Glen Beck gets the message of liberty out to a large audience."
What happened, Glen Beck torpedoed the most important political race of 2010.

Yes, even more important than Rand Paul. Why??? As Governor of Texas, Medina could have closed the Texas-Mexico border, nullified unconstitutional federal laws, used the Texas National Guard to defend Texans from federal government force. It would have been a massive step in the right direction.

Instead, we have Rick Perry for another 4 years (he'll be the longest serving governor in Texas history). Debra Medina didn't lose Texas. Glen Beck didn't lose Texas for Debra Medina.

WE FUCKING LOST TEXAS BECAUSE WE WERE STUPID!

YOU THINK HE WON'T DO THIS SHIT AGAIN!? YOU THINK HE WON'T TORPEDO RON PAUL?!?!

IT'S TIME TO GET THIS SOCIOPATH OFF THE AIR AND INTO AN ASYLUM!!


It is so sad that some smart people, good people , ON THIS FORUM NO LESS, still get behind and defend this fuck. It just goes to show that no matter how "awake" you think you are, there is always something you are hiding from.

 

[xd9fan]

It cant be because he is a neocon.......that cant be it.....

 

[libertarian4321]

I can't speak for anyone but myself, but he lost me during that incident...

As a Texan and Medina supporter, I don't blame him for that debacle. Medina just did not handle that rather obvious question well.

However, Glenn Beck is a demagogue who blows with the political winds. He does what he thinks will gain him the most support/listeners.

in other words, he is a political whore.

Glenn Beck is an unprincipled political whore who will say or do whatever he thinks will get him the best ratings. As long as you remember that when watching his show, you will be okay.

 

[libertarian4321]

In conclusion: Medina screwed up big time, but Beck was setting her up to mess up.

Medina fucked up, period.

She was trying to dance along the line between rationality and trutherism, and she just plain fucked up. When i heard her on the radio, I almost drove my truck off the road and into a tree. At that point she should have just ditched the "truthers" and said that "trutherism" was idiotic. She failed to do so and was rightly (and understandably) vilified for it.

It's fine to just give the truthers a wink and a nod when at a RP rally- these people are nuts, but they work hard. But if you are running for office, it's political strychnine to be seen supporting (or even seeming to support ) trutherism.

 

[payme_rick]

I don't think anyone here can deny Medina screwed up her answer, but it was a set-up from the start...

Does anyone remember what Glenn said sometime before the interview? Something to the effect of "Well, I haven't heard about her 'til our meetings this morning..."? When in the hell does Glenn Beck just "roll" with an interview?

Fact is we hammered Glenn's email, Pat's email, Stu's email and hell, the webmaster of his site's email for a couple of weeks... You think it was just us? No, the Perry-bots here in Texas were all over those email accounts also... Before that day it was impossible for Glenn to not know who Debra Medina was... I believe Pat Gray was frusterated with us at least a week prior, emailing a few of us back, pretty sure he mentioned it to Glenn about it once or twice...

One of the things it took my a while to click to was about week before, on Pat Gray's previous station in Houston, the host of the evening show (who owns the station and is State Senator Dan Patrick, big Perry supporter in the state senate) did a similar deal to a tea-party guy where he set that guy up... Coincidence that Pat Gray's previous employer who is big in with Perry did an almost parralell stunt just before Beck's? I don't think so...

Let's all face it, guys, Rick Perry expressed worry about Debra Medina so his buddy Texas State Senator Dan Patrick got ahold of his previous employee Pat Gray and asked if he and Beck could get Medina on and slam her... and Medina helped by not answering the question the best way she could have, which is no surprise seeing that she had probably never been asked that question before...

 

[libertarian4321]

Then why did she fall all over herself when he asked about it?

Brain farts?

"Are you a wife beater?"

"No, absolutely not, and I'm insulted by the question!"

She knew that a lot of truthers supported her and RP, so she didn't want to alienate them. In the process, she ended up alienating the overwhelming majority of voters who (rightly) believe "truthers" are bat shit crazy.

She should have answered the question like RP did- not supporting the nutty"truthers," but not alienating them either.

She came off as a "truther" supporter, and that is political suicide. She was DOA as soon as she said it.

 

[Chieppa1]

So noone thinks he's losing viewers from the Neo-Con pool?

 

[JK/SEA]

So, what is Medina's opinion on 9/11? has she ever said one way or the other, Becks interview aside...

 

[FrankRep]

So, what is Medina's opinion on 9/11? has she ever said one way or the other, Becks interview aside...

Dallas News
11 February 2010


Debra Medina:

"I have never been involved with the 9/11 truth movement, and there is no doubt in my mind that Muslim terrorists flew planes into those buildings on 9/11," Medina said in a written statement distributed after the interview. "I have not seen any evidence nor have I ever believed that our government was involved or directed those individuals in any way."
...


But during the radio interview, she equivocated when Beck asked her the question in several different ways. At one point, he probed, saying, "is that a yes?" that she believes in some U.S. involvement in the attacks.

"I'm not going to take a position where questions have been raised and not answered," Medina replied.

After she left the radio line, Beck responded that he had expected her to immediately answer "absolutely not."​

 

[JK/SEA]

Dallas News
11 February 2010


Debra Medina:

"I have never been involved with the 9/11 truth movement, and there is no doubt in my mind that Muslim terrorists flew planes into those buildings on 9/11," Medina said in a written statement distributed after the interview. "I have not seen any evidence nor have I ever believed that our government was involved or directed those individuals in any way."
...


But during the radio interview, she equivocated when Beck asked her the question in several different ways. At one point, he probed, saying, "is that a yes?" that she believes in some U.S. involvement in the attacks.

"I'm not going to take a position where questions have been raised and not answered," Medina replied.

After she left the radio line, Beck responded that he had expected her to immediately answer "absolutely not."​

Understood. But i was wondering what, if anything, she said before the Beck interview.

 

[Valli6]

The thing we have to remember about Medina, is that she had NEVER, EVER spoken about 9/11 prior to Beck asking her that question! It wasn't an issue she had ever addressed, nor were there any rumors about her feelings regarding 911 prior to Beck's set up! So Beck's claims that there were rumors associating her with any kind of 911 truth movement is a lie to begin with! Recall that Medina was shocked that he asked such a question. Beck himself created the rumor with that interview!

We do know however, that in the month or so prior to the interview, some Perry supporter(s) had been trying to tie the "truther" label to medina by posting as a "Medina supporter" ranting about 911. I recall that someone from one of the news organizations where these comments had been posted, actually did an article stating that the same person posting these comments, had previously been posting pro-Perry comments!

So there was an organized effort to smear Medina and Beck knowingly became a part of it. You can say whatever you want about Medina's response, but Beck willfully plotted to smear Medina in order to help Rick Perry win! Beck created the rumor that we are still talking about!

 

[Anti Federalist]

In the process, she ended up alienating the overwhelming majority of voters who (rightly) believe "truthers" are bat shit crazy.

This statement is "bat shit crazy"?

"I think some very good questions have been raised in that regard," Medina replied. "There are some very good arguments, and I think the American people have not seen all of the evidence there, so I have not taken a position on that."

Given all the evidence, all the incidents in the past that are so similar that government has been involved in, that mild statement certifies someone as "bat shit crazy"?

No, it does not.

Only in our current Bizarro World where up is down, freedom is slavery and war is peace, would this statement be considered "bat shit insane".