Glenn Beck vs. Ron Paul: The Showdown

[noztnac]

Ron Paul's message of freedom and liberty applies to EVERYONE. The moment we start dictating which groups are allowed to support Ron Paul is the moment we lose the election.

If you agree with this copy and paste it.

 

[hypnagogue]

I'm satisfied. Very respectful.

I think Glenn can be an over-reactive dope sometimes, but I can't dislike him just for that.

Since we've veered off into 911 I'm going to go ahead and stand up. I do not believe the world trade centers were toppled by a hydrocarbon fire.

 

[cicatrice]

I don't think his intention was to separate the 9-11 truthers from the rest of the support base so much as to disassociate Dr. Paul's name from those who supposedly threatened his life. STOP GETTING SO UP IN ARMS ABOUT THIS! *sigh*

 

[Delain]

If it were my goal to split up the Ron Paul movement I would use the 9/11 issue as a wedge.

Turn the truthers and the non-truthers against eachother.

 

[koft]

Everyone needs to stop copying and pasting retardedly large, bold text and actually discuss the issue.

Don't tell me how to use my FREEDOM!

 

[NewEnd]

Everyone needs to stop copying and pasting retardedly large, bold text and actually discuss the issue.

the issue is Glenn Beck's interview. Not whther 9-11 was an inside job, or whether its hurting the movment... there are plenty of those in hot topics.

 

[Gimme Some Truth]

Argh! I so wanna go dictatorship on your asses right now!

 

[Young_Apprentice]

Beck wasn't trying to divide anyone. Beck did the campaign a great service by clearing this issue on national television. I've talked to many people who didn't know anything about Ron Paul and they didn't care to due to his link with conspiracy theorists.

And yeah...the government covered up 9/11, but they couldn't cover up a blowjob...

 

[jake]

Ugh, please keep your 9/11 truther bullshit out of the campaign. Thanks.

Indeed. the majority of truthers understand they can be harmful associating "9/11 truth" with the RP campaign, and thank goodness for that

 

[Derek]

Well, the interview was an overall positive for Dr. Paul.

Could have gone a LOT worse, for sure. Glen was respectful and gave Dr. Paul tons of time, no interruptions, and seemed like he was trying to find ways to agree rather than disagree on many issues.

Glen sees the 911 truthers as nut jobs - and I think he knew Dr. Paul was not a truther, and was trying to give him an opportunity to distance himself from those views. Dr. Paul took that opportunity, saying that it was absurd to believe that 911 was an inside job.

Now, as for us in the grassroots: I think we all can co-exist together as non-truthers & truthers, and support Ron Paul - we need not get into the argument in this campaign, or it will tear us apart. There is some evidence that 911 was an inside job - but I personally have not seen conclusive evidence of it - beyond a reasonable doubt, at least.

We need to stay focused on getting Ron Paul into the White House.

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I completely agree. I don't see 9/11 truthers as nutjobs at all, although I don't necessarily agree with them. I do think Ron Paul 9/11 truthers should keep those views to themselves in the interest of not hurting the campaign, and I also think everyone on this thread who has called truthers "fools" or other names should knock it off.

Overall it was a good interview, and I think we should all send Beck thank you notes for giving Paul A WHOLE HOUR!

The important lesson here is: don't overreact to negative coverage and send or say threatening, inappropiate things that paint the Paul campaign and Paul supporters in a negative light. We have to always remain positive and polite.

 

[hells_unicorn]

You actually believe that our government was capable of organizing a this attack without ONE single person turning on them?

Who to say no one has turned on them? If the CIA can oust leaders in other countries through black ops, taking out a potential mole would be a cake walk, not to mention having people in the media who can put out the government's side of the story in droves before anyone knows what has happened.

Much of the inside stuff that people in the conspiracy crowd (not the pejorative sense) have is based on leaked intelligence which the media actively discounts despite authenticity and declassified state department documentation (Operation Northwoods, Mockingbird, et cetera).

The problem is that being taught your whole life that your government only does bad things to people in other countries leads people to disbelieve the obvious problems with what the government puts out. Furthermore, it teaches people to immediately lash out at those who think differently as being crazy, mostly because it challenges their comfort zone.

If you want to keep 9/11 Truth separate from Ron Paul, I'd advise telling the anti-9/11 Truth Paul supporters on here to also keep their mouths shut about it. You should be dumping on the media over stuff like this, not on people like Menthol Patch that are trying to get the same man elected that you are.

For shame.

 

[Signzit]

Beck is not a good guy. He supports the War in Iraq, openly states that we should give up our freedom for security, supports the "War on Drugs" and is a total neo-con.

So what! We got the interview! send the emails! Stop the 911 talk move on don't let's get bog'd down move on bring beck in people!

 

[Aus4RP]

Those that talk about crazy ideas as "alternative theories".

You honestly think unfairly smearing a persons character on national TV is not as bad as reexamining past events?. I'm not emotionally attached to 911 as it was not my Nation that was hit, but because of it my country now has thousands of troops stationed in the Middle East.

I don't know what happened on 911 but I know the same people who give us the "facts" have an agenda and are also the same people who label us Ron Paul supporters all "whackos" and say "he can't win" and that you're all domestic terrorists. I take Ron Pauls posistion about 911, and respect others to have the right to pursue alternative theories and who knows what they might find.

 

[Paulitician]

FUCK YOU, Beck has no proof and neither do you.

This is the type of moron I'm talking about. Thank you for proving my point.

BTW, learn to read. I did say there was no proof. I said it might not have happened, but the fact that it is believable, the fact that I as a supporter know it is believable, is the problem, and some of you guys are doing nothing but contributing to that.

 

[Birdlady]

Ron Paul's message of freedom and liberty applies to EVERYONE. The moment we start dictating which groups are allowed to support Ron Paul is the moment we lose the election.

If you agree with this copy and paste it.

Exactly!

 

[philistineau]

Good interview by Beck

youtube it anyone?

or upload to mininova

 

[familydog]

Um what epople need to understand is that the reason WHY Beck asked the 9/11 truth question is because a lot of Beck's audience have that image of him because of what other candidates and other pundits say.

Beck did this to clear it up for his audience.

Beck did this to clear it up for his audience.

He said he knows Dr. Paul doesn't believe in it.

Becks' audience are not us. They might not know what we know.

This was one of the best interviews ever of Paul.

Take a chill pill people.

 

[noztnac]

+2

The love of freedom trumps our minor disagreements.

 

[angrydragon]

Promoting this 9/11 truth stuff is like promoting socialism, Dr. Paul doesn't believe in either of them.

 

[daikonv]

truthers can believe what they want as long as they dont give the impression that all RP supporters (or the majority) belive the conspiracy. People can think what they want and if they feel adamant about it, let them. However, don't be asses like PETA and go spilling animal blood on people and such or threatening people.

For me, I don't believe in the conspiracy, but I won't tell others to shut up or tell them they are wrong. But, I will try to give evidence supporting one side or the other.

http://www.loosechangeguide.com/LooseChangeGuide.html

That site tries to debunk many of the claim in that loose change movie (and does in my opinion).