Glenn Beck says "I'd Vote For Ron Paul"

[berrybunches]

am i the only one who thinks that now that Ron Paul is out of the game, it doesn't matter if Glenn Beck or anybody would "vote" for him.

that's like saying, if it were 1964, I'd vote for Barry Goldwater, when it's about half a century too late for this to matter.

By saying he would vote for him may imply he is interested in joining our movement. It also makes Paul look credible to Beck's viewers which in turn may have them interested in seeing whats going on with the CFL. It also means he may have Paul on his show more where one or both could promote the CFL.
My grandma now says she would have voted for Paul after reading his book. While its too late she is now on board and thats what counts.

 

[Conza88]

By saying he would vote for him may imply he is interested in joining our movement. It also makes Paul look credible to Beck's viewers which in turn may have them interested in seeing whats going on with the CFL. It also means he may have Paul on his show more where one or both could promote the CFL.
My grandma now says she would have voted for Paul after reading his book. While its too late she is now on board and thats what counts.

On board? Haha... they're trying to suck everyone back into the fold. Looks like you swallowed the pill.

Granted it's better than trying to keep out casting the movement... but you know what... the thing is, if they tried - and continued to pull all that BLATANT bullshit, it only brings more to our cause.. they would seem insane because of it...

i.e.. You think we're going to have a DEPRESSION Ron Paul? WOW - YOU'RE FKEN CRAZAH!H!?!?!

That's not possible to do anymore & remain rational in the eyes of viewers now is it?

 

[berrybunches]

Many of us here were past a lot of things. So by saying that about his past, you're essentially offending most people here and probably even yourself. Most of us changed. Bob changed. I, personally, changed because of Ron Paul. It just so happens that Bob Barr was a libertarian before me. So calling him a neocon would offend me even more, as it should a lot of people here.

Although I agree I can proudly say I have always held most of Paul's views! But Paul got me interested in the complexities of it all. I read Anthem, 1984, Animal Farm and Brave New when I was about 14 years old. Nothing to deep but I have always hated authority and collectivism. I learned a lot about politics (a lot of now libertarian views) through my father who was turning, over the last few years away from them and into a neocon via Fox brainwashing...Paul and me rescued him!
So my father, a staunch Bush supporter who would get so angry at anti-Bush and war people is almost 100% RPs views now. victory yay
It can happen to my father who is kinda thick headed than I am sure it can happen to Beck or Barr. Although I am not going to be quick to trust them like I do my family members.
I do love how Beck is getting all Hawkish on the fed now! How great is that!

Also, did you guys here how Beck was invited to a republican event and then got uninvited by the Bush administration? lol I liked hearing that about him. Good for Beck, he must be pissing off the establishment where they are taking notice.

 

[Akus]

By saying he would vote for him may imply he is interested in joining our movement. It also makes Paul look credible to Beck's viewers which in turn may have them interested in seeing whats going on with the CFL. It also means he may have Paul on his show more where one or both could promote the CFL.
My grandma now says she would have voted for Paul after reading his book. While its too late she is now on board and thats what counts.

I'm sorry, I just don't want to give credit to anyone, who yesterday was considering Ron Paul all but Osama bin Laden's right hand man, and now that it no longer matters (and it doesn't, OK! Ron Paul is no longer running), are all for him.

And the reason why is they will still give their vote to either McCain or Obama as "lesser of the evil".

This mentality goes back to my other philosophy that movements are shit, it's the guy at the top with his finger on the button in both senses of that word that matters.

 

[The_Orlonater]

Ugh, how many times do I have to explain myself, or is it fun to ignore my posts?

 

[LibertyCola]

what is the url of the video Beck is reffering to?

 

[berrybunches]

On board? Haha... they're trying to suck everyone back into the fold. Looks like you swallowed the pill.

Granted it's better than trying to keep out casting the movement... but you know what... the thing is, if they tried - and continued to pull all that BLATANT bullshit, it only brings more to our cause.. they would seem insane because of it...

i.e.. You think we're going to have a DEPRESSION Ron Paul? WOW - YOU'RE FKEN CRAZAH!H!?!?!

That's not possible to do anymore & remain rational in the eyes of viewers now is it?

All I did was explain why people thought it was good that Beck talked about Paul positively. It is good that Paul will be able to be on Becks show.
If they were worried about him they just would not have him on at all.
Its not a big plot to make us think that they are giving in to our movement so we feel more relaxed and then they suck us back into their grid where we are reprogrammed to be happy slaves.
THAT is fear mongering.

Not everything is a conspiracy.

 

[berrybunches]

what is the url of the video Beck is reffering to?

I think its this that I got in my email:

"Congressman Ron Paul discusses the Housing Bill in this new video.

To watch, visit the congressional webpage and click on the top video on the right. http://www.house.gov/paul/index.shtml

Also, don't forget to read this week's column "Faith-Based Currency" at the same link if you missed it. Some of you may have had trouble with the link sent Monday, so I apologize for that.

Rachel Mills
Communications Director
Congressman Ron Paul "

 

[familydog]

I'm sorry, I just don't want to give credit to anyone, who yesterday was considering Ron Paul all but Osama bin Laden's right hand man, and now that it no longer matters (and it doesn't, OK! Ron Paul is no longer running), are all for him.

And the reason why is they will still give their vote to either McCain or Obama as "lesser of the evil".

This mentality goes back to my other philosophy that movements are shit, it's the guy at the top with his finger on the button in both senses of that word that matters.

This coming from a guy willing to forgive Barr's neocon voting record? Give me a break.

I don't believe Glenn Beck ever said he was going to vote for McCain.

 

[berrybunches]

This coming from a guy willing to forgive Barr's neocon voting record? Give me a break.

I don't believe Glenn Beck ever said he was going to vote for McCain.

Correct, he says he "doesn't know what he is going to do" when referring to the elections. He called McCain a clown yesterday on TV.

I know Beck said some nasty things about Ron Paul but I am glad he is on air talking capitalism to the masses and having Paul on to join him. It gives Republicans someone else to watch in the MSM besides Hannity.

 

[Akus]

This coming from a guy willing to forgive Barr's neocon voting record? Give me a break.

I don't believe Glenn Beck ever said he was going to vote for McCain.

for the millionth time, I am not voting for Barr so much as to put LP on the map as a legitimate third choice. People vote for the guys that look like they're winning. I want LP to win.

Do you know that a lot of talk radio people say that now they think Iraq was a failure and had they known in '02 what they know now they would never advocate going there? Do you watch real time with Bill Maher on HBO? Do you remember the episode where Geanine Garofalo, a woman that I long regarded as a some psychotic far left cunt muncher, stated that Powell's regret on the Iraq war is worth nothing, since he should have said it back when he was a part of the Bush's cabinet and not now, when even the most die hard Bushies finally come in terms with it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-qNRyYtpOA&feature=related

start from 2:25

This is the point I was making. I guess it's better to support him late then never at all, but that's like saying eating potato peels is better then starving to death.

 

[Conza88]

All I did was explain why people thought it was good that Beck talked about Paul positively. It is good that Paul will be able to be on Becks show.
If they were worried about him they just would not have him on at all.
Its not a big plot to make us think that they are giving in to our movement so we feel more relaxed and then they suck us back into their grid where we are reprogrammed to be happy slaves.
THAT is fear mongering.

Not everything is a conspiracy.

Yes it's good beck is now talking good about Paul... only now it doesn't matter.
Don't you see any correlation to that? If Ron Paul was on the verge of winning - you think anything would be different? You really do forget easily... just before super Tuesday anyone? World wide media black out much? They is the status-quo, the global elite, the money men... You don't think they exist? And they don't have anything at stake at all?

"Not everything is a conspiracy." Yea obviously... Everybody runs on self interest though.

 

[familydog]

I know Beck said some nasty things about Ron Paul but I am glad he is on air talking capitalism to the masses and having Paul on to join him. It gives Republicans someone else to watch in the MSM besides Hannity.

Yep. Beck is the only mainstream popular radio personality that actually does promote capitalism. People like Limbaugh, Hannity, Boortz, Medved, etc. talk about the free market, but they are shills for big business. The free market is good, as long as it doesn't interfere with the all mighty corporation.

 

[familydog]

for the millionth time, I am not voting for Barr so much as to put LP on the map as a legitimate third choice. People vote for the guys that look like they're winning. I want LP to win.

Do you know that a lot of talk radio people say that now they think Iraq was a failure and had they known in '02 what they know now they would never advocate going there? Do you watch real time with Bill Maher on HBO? Do you remember the episode where Geanine Garofalo, a woman that I long regarded as a some psychotic far left cunt muncher, stated that Powell's regret on the Iraq war is worth nothing, since he should have said it back when he was a part of the Bush's cabinet and not now, when even the most die hard Bushies finally come in terms with it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-qNRyYtpOA&feature=related

start from 2:25

This is the point I was making. I guess it's better to support him late then never at all, but that's like saying eating potato peels is better then starving to death.

Ah, I see. I got confused by your Bob Barr avatar and previous comments you made sticking up for his "conversions." I find it ironic you are supporting a third party in an attempt to break the two-party system, yet are putting party needs (the Libertarian Party) at the top of your priorities which is the same type of attitude that got us into the two-party system in the first place.

This presidential election is not our last hope. Ron Paul or someone like him getting elected to the presidency in 2008 is not our last hope. In fact, it shouldn't even be a focus. Our focus should be on education of the masses. Our focus should be on the CFL. Our focus should be on showing the Republican Party that they can't ignore us anymore.

This is why we should be glad Glenn Beck is promoting the message that no other popular radio or television host is promoting. As a previous poster suggested, if Beck can get people interested in the issues that make up our message, that is a bigger win than anything this one presidential election can do.

In any case, I'll let the neocon convert I finally worked over a couple weeks ago know that his change in ideas, attitudes, and opinions, is worthless.

 

[berrybunches]

Yes it's good beck is now talking good about Paul... only now it doesn't matter.
Don't you see any correlation to that? If Ron Paul was on the verge of winning - you think anything would be different? You really do forget easily... just before super Tuesday anyone? World wide media black out much? They is the status-quo, the global elite, the money men... You don't think they exist? And they don't have anything at stake at all?

"Not everything is a conspiracy." Yea obviously... Everybody runs on self interest though.

Even still I don't think showing Paul in a positive light is part of the plan. I believe in conspiracy very much becuase like you said, "everyone runs on self interest".
I just try not to get carried away as I see so many people do. I think Glenn Beck, for instance, is a regular person. I don't think he is a global elitist.
Do I think he is told what not to say on TV? Yes I do.

As for the whole media blacking Paul out it is hard for me to comprehend it happened even though I saw it happen. I always thought that a corporate owned network would promote candidates in its best interest so it makes since in that light BUT when you have every single radio host/station, tv host/station, newspaper and magazine blacking him out there would almost have to be something big behind the scenes. The government hates Paul and the CIA has people everywhere. Operation Mockingbird?

 

[Conza88]

Even still I don't think showing Paul in a positive light is part of the plan. I believe in conspiracy very much becuase like you said, "everyone runs on self interest".
I just try not to get carried away as I see so many people do. I think Glenn Beck, for instance, is a regular person. I don't think he is a global elitist.
Do I think he is told what not to say on TV? Yes I do.

As for the whole media blacking Paul out it is hard for me to comprehend it happened even though I saw it happen. I always thought that a corporate owned network would promote candidates in its best interest so it makes since in that light BUT when you have every single radio host/station, tv host/station, newspaper and magazine blacking him out there would almost have to be something big behind the scenes. The government hates Paul and the CIA has people everywhere. Operation Mockingbird?

"I don't think he is a global elitist." - Hahah.. obviously. He's a shill that is all. His time will come, when the job is done.

As for the media blackout thing... alot of Ron Paul people are in the 'know' for a reason. We did see it all first hand... the myth was that it takes money to win... Yet, Ron Paul raised more than any other republican in the 4qthr..! God damnit.. and that's when the fken total media blackout happened!?!? Logically, or before most of us woke up - it didn't make any sense... but the media wants money right, his campaigns advertising etc?

Thing is... an anti-establishment, anti-status quo person like Ron Paul, actually running in the race, accompanied by the internet - has never happened before.

They showed their hand. VERY CLEARLY. If anyone had been following closely, it really did shine through.

Alot of people are slowly forgetting that.

For anyone who still doubts; here are some questions to ask yourself.

 

[hillbilly123069]

The independents haven't been allowed to vote.Dr Paul was a favorite

He still is to me and I still plan to vote for him.

 

[misericordia]

is it possible for the republicans to dump mcwar for RP? remotely possible? precedent?

 

[Conza88]

is it possible for the republicans to dump mcwar for RP? remotely possible? precedent?

Miracle is needed. I think I said awhile ago in jest, if Ron Paul some how ends up as President... I'll believe in an interventionist God again.

Orrrr the Dvd's / Manifesto for delegates may have had something to do with it

 

[DFF]

Many of us know Ron Paul is the rightful succesor to the throne. We need to do everything we can to denounce McCain/Obama, overthrow them, the corrupt scum which got them into office, and honor the blood and sacrifice the founding fathers made for a DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC, OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE.

LEGALIZE THE CONSTITUTION; RESTORE THE REPUBLIC!!!