Glenn Beck is a friend of liberty

[Conza88]

He's pro-war, therefore he is for the theft of money from citizens to pay for the murder of innocent people over seas. Someone please explain to me how this could be construed as liberty?

They can't. Because its not.

Beck propagates the false left / right paradigm.

If you're free market or libertarian - you're pro war.

EPIC fail.

 

[Conza88]

David Asman has always said shit like that. I say that because I have watched Fox since they were on the air, and David Asnan has been there from the beginning.

David Asman has always tried to help illustrate Ron Paul's points? Riiiiiiiiiight.

When/if Ron Paul runs again..... David, Beck, and the rest of the crew won't be dropping bombs like the rest of them? Suuuuuuure.

Fox won't rubbish him at every chance they get? They'll let him into the debate's no problems asked... Yeeeeeeeaaaah.

David assnan wasn't swooning for bailouts? News to me.

 

[Anti Federalist]

I guarantee it. If you started going around telling people to watch Glenn Beck, COME THE NEXT TERROR ATTACK - which Biden has been talking about, you fcken KNOW for god damn sure, BECK is going to revert back to his bullshit, "DOMESTIC TERRORISTS".

And guess what a-holes, RON PAUL SUPPORTERS are going to be in the firing line.

Thank you Conza, for beating me to the punch.

Beck has one hell of a lot of atoning to do, before I'll give him a pass for giving that Horowitz douche free reign to call us all "terrorists" on his show, not to mention his many other "squishy" moments.

And everybody will shout hosannas to the heavens because Beck has, or has appeared to have, seen the light.

Yet fully half this forum audience will go into fits of apoplexy by merely mentioning the name of Alex Jones, who has been a consistent and unflagging media voice for Ron Paul and maximum liberty for 15 years now.

 

[purplechoe]

The only person I trust on Fox is Cody Willard on Fox Business and to a lesser extant Cavuto.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-t2IHg1Fl8

 

[Conza88]

Thank you Conza, for beating me to the punch.

Beck has one hell of a lot of atoning to do, before I'll give him a pass for giving that Horowitz douche free reign to call us all "terrorists" on his show, not to mention his many other "squishy" moments.

And everybody will shout hosannas to the heavens because Beck has, or has appeared to have, seen the light.

Yet fully half this forum audience will go into fits of apoplexy by merely mentioning the name of Alex Jones, who has been a consistent and unflagging media voice for Ron Paul and maximum liberty for 15 years now.

So, so, soo true.

I think this is a great historical example.

The George Bush You Forgot

Then "it" (911) happens, and you get the real Bush, all the rhetoric and BS falls away. The exact same thing will happen with Beck.

Atm, the war on terror is getting massive down play. "Obama is here. It's all over. Guantanamo is closed" It's just a LULL in the battle though! And this is Fox News, filling in the "lull" before the next terror attack. Trying to bring folks back into the fold... all those disenchanted 'right wingers' pissed at government.

FOX is the "right wing" network. When the next attack happens, they'll be back in full force, louder and more pro-war, anti-domestic terrorist's than ever. Forget about this 'free market' rhetoric, there is only one thing being advocated - and it is fear and tyranny.

This is the calm before the storm.

 

[TastyWheat]

He's got a good point of view on domestic affairs, although he did have a lapse of judgment on the first bailout, but he was pretty much all the way with Bush's foreign policies. I think he does more good for our cause than harm though.

 

[paulitics]

Beck talks about issues with a libertarian/constitutional perspective... When I listen to Beck, I feel he's sincerely trying to promote individual liberty and personal responsibility.

You won't get that from Limbaugh or Hannity.

He might not be the "perfect" mouthpiece for liberty, but he's waking people up. That, to me, means that he's a friend for now.

The personal responsibility thing is a big thing to me. I hear him tell his audience to go out and buy guns and gold, become self sufficent, etc, even mentions seccession from the Union. Pretty astounding for a "mainstream" guy.


However, he still belittles the 4th amendment regularly, and insinuates that some in the Ron paul movement can be potential terrorists. I heard him make that claim about a month ago, so it wasn't just that one time. How he can hold these contradictory thoughts in his head does raise suspicions about his genuiness.

I am also concerned that he will lead his audience to the slaughter when the time comes. Until I him hear disavow his neocon ways completely, and 100% SUPPORT THE 4TH AMENDMENT, HABEUS CORPUS, AND THE RULE OF LAW, I can't trust him. The truth is he only supports the Bill of Rights part of the time, which should be antithetical to libertarianism.

 

[Nyte]

I am also concerned that he will lead his audience to the slaughter when the time comes. Until I him hear disavow his neocon ways completely, and 100% SUPPORT THE 4TH AMENDMENT, HABEUS CORPUS, AND THE RULE OF LAW, I can't trust him. The truth is he only supports the Bill of Rights part of the time, which should be antithetical to libertarianism.

Does this help?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB9fuIvksLw

As I said, he's not perfect. But since about mid-fall I've noticed a big change in his approach.

 

[transistor]

better than most, but still a huge doucher

 

[speciallyblend]

beck is the biggest joke on tv and we are the punchline!! beck is useless and just an entertainer. he doesn't give a dam about liberty,just his paychecks and the mouth piece of msm.

 

[newbitech]

no. He is still in denial re: military spending over seas. We can't end the fed and continue to push an interventionist foreign policy.

 

[Nyte]

beck is the biggest joke on tv and we are the punchline!! beck is useless and just an entertainer. he doesn't give a dam about liberty,just his paychecks and the mouth piece of msm.

So by your standards, is there ANYONE in the MSM that gives a damn about liberty?

Yes, he's an entertainer... He didn't get where he's at by not being entertaining. But if you actually listen to his shows for more than two seconds, you'll hear him trying to spoon-feed morsels of enlightenment to his listeners.

I listen to Beck for 30 min on my way home from work. I wouldn't say that time is waisted. And I find that more often than not, he's right on the money.

 

[speciallyblend]

So by your standards, is there ANYONE in the MSM that gives a damn about liberty?

Yes, he's an entertainer... He didn't get where he's at by not being entertaining. But if you actually listen to his shows for more than two seconds, you'll hear him trying to spoon-feed morsels of enlightenment to his listeners.

I listen to Beck for 30 min on my way home from work. I wouldn't say that time is waisted. And I find that more often than not, he's right on the money.

not one person on tv is for Liberty. it is all soap operas. notone show on tv is news it is all entertainment.
so yes everyone on msm is a joke in my eyes and i take them seriously about 0%

i believe nick news before any tv station(sarcasm)

I trust RPF before i trust anything beck or the bs talking heads say!!!
beck is a bs artist


beck is a joke in my eyes and not worthy of my time!!

 

[speciallyblend]

So by your standards, is there ANYONE in the MSM that gives a damn about liberty?

Yes, he's an entertainer... He didn't get where he's at by not being entertaining. But if you actually listen to his shows for more than two seconds, you'll hear him trying to spoon-feed morsels of enlightenment to his listeners.

I listen to Beck for 30 min on my way home from work. I wouldn't say that time is waisted. And I find that more often than not, he's right on the money.

i was a big beck fan for yrs and fox . I cannot watch them anymore they are liars and beck is full of it. he is all talk no action!!

 

[NerveShocker]

Yeah, David Asman has changed his minds aswell!!!

Ron Paul: Gold Standard 1/30/09 Fox Business

So much so, everybody at fox news has also suddenly changed their mind!

It's a friggin miracle! Everyones now a libertarian or at least using the rhetoric, and is attacking the status quo. ZOMG?!!?!111 Like it's genuine folks, they weeeeeellly weeaallyyy means it. I lub my mainstream media, they use logic and reasoning...!!11 they aren't some fourth estate, or are much more effective than pravda!! Hell no, Ron Paul has been saying the exact same thing for about a year now... BUT NO, they're converted now. They've seeeeeenzzz teh lightssss?!!

</being a retard>

Seriously, wake up. Again.

It's really simple Conza. The last 9/10 I've watched Glenn Beck I agreed with everything he said, or the vast majority of it. On other channels or with other hosts with the exception of Neil Cavuto I disagree with everything they say 9/10 of the time. I would much prefer to have some1 taking up a slot on Fox News saying things I can agree with 90% of the time than to be replaced with some1 disagreeing with essentially everything I believe in. If Glenn Beck starts going off about Terrorism then we should do our best to set him right and push for Ron Paul to be on the show and show him another view, he is always willing to have him on. To me he is helping us greatly get our message out, at least when it comes to economic freedom, and is only incorrect when it comes to the "War on Terror" as you pointed out. Hopefully we can turn him around on that and we will have a media pundit who is almost completely in agreement with our cause. It's also worth noting he has already changed a lot after listening to people like Ron Paul and Peter Schiff speaking about important issues.

 

[mconder]

Ron Paul and his supporters take "Ron Paul Revolution" too literally.

I think time will show that we didn't take it literally enough.

 

[Anti Federalist]

i think time will show that we didn't take it literally enough.

+1776

 

[Nyte]

i think time will show that we didn't take it literally enough.

+1776

+1787

 

[glts]

Anyone paid by Faux News isn't a friend to liberty. They may think they are but NOT.

 

[Conza88]

It's really simple Conza. The last 9/10 I've watched Glenn Beck I agreed with everything he said, or the vast majority of it. On other channels or with other hosts with the exception of Neil Cavuto I disagree with everything they say 9/10 of the time. I would much prefer to have some1 taking up a slot on Fox News saying things I can agree with 90% of the time than to be replaced with some1 disagreeing with essentially everything I believe in. If Glenn Beck starts going off about Terrorism then we should do our best to set him right and push for Ron Paul to be on the show and show him another view, he is always willing to have him on. To me he is helping us greatly get our message out, at least when it comes to economic freedom, and is only incorrect when it comes to the "War on Terror" as you pointed out. Hopefully we can turn him around on that and we will have a media pundit who is almost completely in agreement with our cause. It's also worth noting he has already changed a lot after listening to people like Ron Paul and Peter Schiff speaking about important issues.

It's really simple NerveShocker. The war on terrorism isn't a minor issue sitting in the corner. The only reason Glen is on Fox is because he supports it, and they would seem to put up with his other stuff. As its not going to change anything in the mean time.

Glen only seems reasonable now, because the WAR on Terrorism, is on the back burner whilst Barack is on his 'honeymoon'. Like I said. If/when there is another attack, Glen's going to become our enemy, i.e he's going to be calling us the enemy.

If you think he's going to change on the war issue, think again. He's a right wing gatekeeper. Just like Chomsky is a left wing gatekeeper.