Glenn Beck helped launch the current State Sovereignty movement in 2009 [Video]

[Keith and stuff]

With all of the recent discussion of Glenn Beck on here lately, I wanted folks of something great for liberty that Glenn Beck did over 4 years ago. He landed the 1st national TV interview on State Sovereignty with the man credited for making the current State Sovereignty movement popular, New Hampshire State Representative Dan Itse. Over the years. Glenn Beck has done make things, many of them upsetting to many people. However, if someone thinks Beck has changed, he hasn't. Todays Beck is the same Beck I remember from 2009.

 

[NewRightLibertarian]

He's given a platform for many great ideas, but he's all over the place. Since he's great to Judge Nap, I give him some credit.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Very cool, I followed the development of the Montana Firearms Freedom Act from it's concept in 2008 through it's introduction and passage in 2009. The noises were in half a dozen States, but I think the first real spark was struck by Wyoming passing a Sheriff's First type act in 2008. Gary Marbut of Montana first drafted the nullification framework most commonly applied today.

 

[Keith and stuff]

Very cool, I followed the development of the Montana Firearms Freedom Act from it's concept in 2008 through it's introduction and passage in 2009. The noises were in half a dozen States, but I think the first real spark was struck by Wyoming passing a Sheriff's First type act in 2008. Gary Marbut of Montana first drafted the nullification framework most commonly applied today.

Rep. Itse didn't start the fire, he just spread it Without a popular, major national TV platform, it might not have spread when it did.

 

[bolil]

Does it mean I am closed minded when I say: If it quacks like a beck, and walks like a beck, it is a beck. Glenn Beck will never have my sentiments, and I will never trust him. Why? He has proven himself mercenary in his sentiments.

 

[A Son of Liberty]

Over the years. Glenn Beck has done make things, many of them upsetting to many people.

He's given a platform for many great ideas, but he's all over the place.

"Contradictions do not exist. Whenever you think you are facing a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong." ~ Ayn Rand

Beck has a lot of great positions, some of which contradict some of his other positions; this is because he's not rooted in unassailable, objective principles.

 

[Tonewah]

This is a joke, right? Beck always comes in and claims something after it has popular support. "And this is how I got there" never includes the person from whom Beck stole the idea. Then, a while later, he demonizes the person who actually had the idea in the first place. After that, he changes the whole message towards statism and neoconservatism, and implies you are a terrorist if you imply that he's distorting the message.

 

[dinosaur]

This is a joke, right? Beck always comes in and claims something after it has popular support. "And this is how I got there" never includes the person from whom Beck stole the idea. Then, a while later, he demonizes the person who actually had the idea in the first place. After that, he changes the whole message towards statism and neoconservatism, and implies you are a terrorist if you imply that he's distorting the message.

Good summary, wish it weren't true. Its natural to want to like the guy who is championing the good ideas, until you realize why he is doing it.

 

[AuH20]

There is a semblance of irrational hate floating around that obscures the good things he has done. I agree with the OP. Beck is a polarizing figure, but for his miscues, he's done many commendable things. His charitable efforts with Mercury One are impressive to say the least.

 

[dinosaur]

There is a semblance of irrational hate floating around that obscures the good things he has done. I agree with the OP. Beck is a polarizing figure, but for his miscues, he's done many commendable things. His charitable efforts with Mercury One are impressive to say the least.

I can't prove that Beck is only embracing in order to co-opt. I can claim that no hatred of any sort has fueled my analysis. It is awfully difficult to prove intention, but suspecting bad intentions does not make one irrational.

 

[AuH20]

I can't prove that Beck is only embracing in order to co-opt. I can claim that no hatred of any sort has fueled my analysis. It is awfully difficult to prove intention, but suspecting bad intentions does not make one irrational.

You don't have to like him. I'm just stating that he never gets credit for doing something good. That's what I find irrational. He certainly can be blamed for making poor choices but it never seems to apply the other way around.

 

[dinosaur]

You don't have to like him. I'm just stating that he never gets credit for doing something good. That's what I find irrational. He certainly can be blamed for making poor choices but it never seems to apply the other way around.

People are looking at the WHY of him doing something good, and reacting to that. It isn't irrational, but it might make us look irrational to those who would find it hard to believe that Beck is insincere and that Beck is playing them.

The whole problem, as I see it, is that the truth is too fantastical to believe. Tell a lie big enough...

And the lie that is too big to believe here, in my estimation, is that Beck is merely playing a role in order to set himself up as a leader with sway.