Glenn Beck attempts to hijack the liberty movement...

[Tod]

I caught a bit of his show this morning and it is apparent that Beck is seeing the Liberty Movement's energy and has decided that if he can hijack it and become its leader, it will good for his ratings.

Here is what he was talking about this morning, in part:

freepac DOT org

Dude seriously makes me want to puke.

 

[thoughtomator]

again? he was the point man for undermining the Tea Party

 

[Sola_Fide]

Didn't Glen Beck start the Liberty movement last year?

 

[tod evans]

Didn't Glen Beck start the Liberty movement last year?

Sure he did.......just ask him...[sarc]

 

[LibertyEagle]

I caught a bit of his show this morning and it is apparent that Beck is seeing the Liberty Movement's energy and has decided that if he can hijack it and become its leader, it will good for his ratings.

Here is what he was talking about this morning, in part:

freepac DOT org

Dude seriously makes me want to puke.

That's a FreedomWorks thing.

They are calling it "the Freedom Movement". ha ha. Ya knew it was going to happen. That's ok. Just keep doing what we are doing and getting in place in the GOP.

 

[pintbottlepress]

I caught a bit of his show this morning and it is apparent that Beck is seeing the Liberty Movement's energy and has decided that if he can hijack it and become its leader, it will good for his ratings.

Here is what he was talking about this morning, in part:

freepac DOT org

Dude seriously makes me want to puke.

meh. I guess I have a "the more the merrier" attitude. I don't really follow Beck, so there's no worry of him "leading" me or any other independently minded people, which seems to be the underlying character trait of libertarians. Plus, he apparently does have a following, so if he can persuade more people to champion true liberty, then I don't really see the problem. I will grant you that he'll probably do anything for his ratings, but even if you dislike him, maybe he could prove himself to be a "useful idiot" to us by spreading the message.

I will add that FreedomWorks kind of gives me the creeps and seems a bit more conservative than libertarian from my experience. I do believe it was 'FreedomWorks' who sent me a newsletter a few months back encouraging the U.S. to stop stalling and bomb Iran.

 

[brushfire]

Bottom feeding parasite

 

[lib3rtarian]

meh. I guess I have a "the more the merrier" attitude. I don't really follow Beck, so there's no worry of him "leading" me or any other independently minded people, which seems to be the underlying character trait of libertarians. Plus, he apparently does have a following, so if he can persuade more people to champion true liberty, then I don't really see the problem. I will grant you that he'll probably do anything for his ratings, but even if you dislike him, maybe he could prove himself to be a "useful idiot" to us by spreading the message.

I will add that FreedomWorks kind of gives me the creeps and seems a bit more conservative than libertarian from my experience. I do believe it was 'FreedomWorks' who sent me a newsletter a few months back encouraging the U.S. to stop stalling and bomb Iran.

The only "good" which will come out of the Becks co-opting this movement is that we will have to painfully see some "Liberty Movement leaders" express their "concern" about Iran and how we should "stand by our ally Israel". Or in other words, they will make the movement pro-war. I ran away from the Tea Party after they started thumping the Bible and chanting "bomb bomb bomb", and if the Liberty Movement is lost too, then I would have nowhere to park my anti-war ass.

 

[Voluntary Man]

yeah. it's the neo-liberty movement. it's exactly the same, except with an israel-first agenda, plus interventionism, nation building, and global empire....oh, and no liberty. otherwise, though, "they could be twins."

 

[LibertyEagle]

yeah. it's the neo-liberty movement. it's exactly the same, except with an israel-first agenda, plus interventionism, nation building, and global empire....oh, and no liberty. otherwise, though, "they could be twins."

^^^
Sad, but probably true.

 

[Liberty74]

This is why we must separate ourselves from the two party criminal system. This is an obvious attempt to co-opt our message as I predicted would happen or at the very least muddle our message to divide those on liberty.

 

[LibertyEagle]

The only "good" which will come out of the Becks co-opting this movement is that we will have to painfully see some "Liberty Movement leaders" express their "concern" about Iran and how we should "stand by our ally Israel". Or in other words, they will make the movement pro-war. I ran away from the Tea Party after they started thumping the Bible and chanting "bomb bomb bomb", and if the Liberty Movement is lost too, then I would have nowhere to park my anti-war ass.

They will only co-opt it if we allow them to. If we slink back in our holes and spend all our time fighting THEM, instead of keeping on doing what we need to be doing strategically to win, yeah, it will work. But, we don't have to fall for their siren song.

 

[brushfire]

yeah. it's the neo-liberty movement. it's exactly the same, except with an israel-first agenda, plus interventionism, nation building, and global empire....oh, and no liberty. otherwise, though, "they could be twins."

Glenn Beck did wonders for the tea party... Bring him on in.
The itching and burning, after a while, is almost unnoticeable.

Glenn Beck can eat my sh-t while balling his eyes out... < sorry, its the nicest thing I could think of saying about Glenn Beck.

 

[LibertyEagle]

This is why we must separate ourselves from the two party criminal system. This is an obvious attempt to co-opt our message as I predicted would happen or at the very least muddle our message to divide those on liberty.

We are already separated. Starting a new party isn't going to help anything. That would eventually be co-opted too. We have the C4L and YAL and as much griping has gone on about who is on the board, Dr. Paul has made sure that they won't be co-opted.

 

[Voluntary Man]

every time i think of Beck (not often, btw) the image pops into my head of a clownish wannabe band conductor, in an ill-fitting uniform, chasing after a marching band, shouting "wait for me! I'm your leader!"

 

[lib3rtarian]

I will say that as long as Dr. Paul is alive, our movement won't get co-opted, because he would be there to give direction to us. And I mean him personally talking to us, and not through the Bentons and the Tates. After Dr. Paul's time, now that's a truly scary thought.

 

[Liberty74]

We are already separated. Starting a new party isn't going to help anything. That would eventually be co-opted too. We have the C4L and YAL and as much griping has gone on about who is on the board, Dr. Paul has made sure that they won't be co-opted.

You are wrong. We, against my warnings, are wanting to become part of the Republican Party. And just like the Tea Party, you will have fake Republicans co-opting our message to confuse the masses to think they are on our side. This is what Beck is doing. It is much harder to co-opt a new party than a message within the two party criminal system. Taking over the Indy party would force both parties to build coalitions and we could become a force. Instead, we are stuck with the Republicans and have no where to go when they screw us over. And you can bank on that they will just like they screwed the Tea Party over.

 

[LibertyEagle]

You are wrong. We, against my warnings, are wanting to become part of the Republican Party. And just like the Tea Party, you will have fake Republicans co-opting our message to confuse the masses to think they are on our side. This is what Beck is doing. It is much harder to co-opt a new party than a message within the two party criminal system. Taking over the Indy party would force both parties to build coalitions and we could become a force. Instead, we are stuck with the Republicans and have no where to go when they screw us over. And you can bank on that they will just like they screwed the Tea Party over.

They didn't screw the tea party over. We had that one event and that's it. Nada. Since we did not pick up the ball and run with it, someone else did. That is what happened.

As far as your warnings go, who the hell are you? I'm sorry, but until Dr. Paul's advice of getting in leadership positions in the GOP is found to be a failed strategy, I support that approach. If you personally, want to go do something else, knock yourself out.

 

[RonRules]

This is from almost a year ago:
Freedom Works, Why are they not supporting Dr. Paul?
http://www.dailypaul.com/170020/freedom-works-why-are-they-not-supporting-dr-paul

Not only are they failing to support Ron Paul, but have repeatedly failed to even acknowledge him! I recieved an e-mail from Matt Kibbe, asking for a donation to support Glen Beck's Restore Liberty Campaign, to which I replied that I was supporting Ron Paul's Campaign for Liberty and his 2012 Presidential bid, to Restore America Now, and I was upset with Freedom Works failure to do the same, and that I would appreciate a response....still no reply.

Freedom Works has several times suggested their interest in Bachmann, Palin, Cain, but not even a mention of Ron Paul. Today on Cnn.com, there was an interview with Kibbe who stated in response to a statement that for Romney to win the nomination, he will have to overcome deep reservations within two pillars of the modern-day GOP, Christian conservatives and the Tea Party movement.

Matt Kibbe (FreedomWorks):"My prediction is that somebody is going to fill that vacuum, the true fiscal conservative in the race," said Matt Kibbe, president of the Tea Party organizer FreedomWorks. Kibbe said Tea Party activists across the country are doing more than just hoping for a Tea Party savior to jump into the race.

"We're not waiting. We're shopping," said Kibbe.

Ron Paul fostered the "Tea Party" movement, and now it appears it it being hijacked by the establishment. Both liberal and Neo-con attacks fail against Paul, so it appears the establishment is attacking from within. Is Freedom Works ignoring the True "Tea-Party" conservative, Freedom Fighter, and "savior" of our Liberties? They have to be, if they are still "shopping." I hope we can take the time to contact them for a answer. Maybe remind them about Ron Paul? We need to be diligent in preserving the work that all of us have put in to push the message of Liberty! Especially the tireless effort of Dr. Ron Paul.

 

[brushfire]

I'm sure there's enough room for Bachmann and her buddy Beck... Lets sing their song: