Newt Gingrich Gingrich: Palestinians are an 'invented people'

[Brian4Liberty]

I thought he was suppose to be knowledgeable about history?

Newt is articulate. A good speaker. A great pretender. He tells everybody what they want to hear, then he takes the same actions as Nancy Pelosi and Barrack Obama.

 

[moderate libertarian]

I thought he was suppose to be knowledgeable about history?

He seems to speak from supremacist fascist beliefs rather than historic facts. Another facist douchenag like him had said this not too long after 9/11:

Senior Republican calls on Israel to expel West Bank Arabs

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/may/04/israel3

 

[moderate libertarian]

Well, that's close, but I believe the order was to drive them out of the land. Also note what God told them would happen if they didn't.

God has been very clever lately in his plan's implementation as the photo on Drudge today shows.

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/12/09/obama-hosts-an-early-hannukah-reception/

 

[Revolution9]

An invented people you could send a letter to in 1919.

'Nuff Said
Rev9

 

[Revolution9]

The People of Palestine were an invented people who spent real currency in 1929.

Rev9

 

[SpiritOf1776_J4]

What a disgusting and historically inaccurate statement! Those Palestinians who lost their land and homes to the Zionists were Muslims and Christians…people who believe in One God, the God of Abraham and Moses. The Philistines of Joshua’s time were idol worshippers.

And sad to say, I saw someplace that a lot of palestinians may actually be jews who were forced to convert to Islam in 1000ad or so and did.

 

[Ball]

Newt's arguments could just as well be used against Israel.

 

[TomL]

Here is a map from 1878 with Palestine written on it. It is even for sale...this isn't some modified web image.

http://www.baumanrarebooks.com/rare...of-palestine-old-testament-history/69781.aspx

Btw, I think Newt is playing a semantics game that there was no organized nation state amongst the Palestinians, hence the people living there had no say over the land. It's a rabidly statist worldview. People don't exist, only the state.

I have a Bible with a New Testament that was copyrighted in 1946. At the end of the book is a series of maps. One is "Palestine In New Testament Times."

 

[TomL]

Newt got it wrong. If there is an invented people in this world, it's Israel. Israel is an invented nation of the United Nations. They are not the nation that was established by God through Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Moses. The nation of Israel that God established was destroyed in 70AD, and was never re-established by God.

Since 1948, countries like the United States has been masquerading Israel as God's chosen people. But when the temple was destroyed in 70AD Israel's connection to God was lost and a New Israel was formed, a spiritual Israel. This spiritual Israel was formed when Christ died on the cross and was raised from death by the power of God. The death of Christ on the cross and his subsequent resurrection brought to a conclusion or completion of the Old Testament ages, and ushered in the New Testament age. An eternal age that would never end, which we are in today. With the conclusion of the Old Testament ages and the establishment of the New Testament age there is no longer a physical nation-state of Israel.

Too correct the mistake made by the United Nations in 1948, Israel should be moved out of Palestine and allow the Palestinians to move back into their homes and businesses.

Someone is bound to ask, What do we do with the people who currently occupy the land of Palestine erroneously being called Israel? Of course, that is not how people will ask it, but you get the idea. My answer is, since American Christian leaders, like John Hagee and his ilk, are so fond of these people, they can be given U.S. citizenship, and they can be settled throughout the Country in places like San Antonio, Texas, where they can use Cornerstone Church for their Sabbath services on Saturday, while Cornerstone Church maintains their so called Christian services on Sunday.

Either way, Newt's statement that Palestine is invented people is wrong. And this guy wants to be President. The potential that Newt could be our next President scares me more than Mahmoud Achmadinejad having nuclear weapons.

Obviously, Newt Gingrich as President would probably spare no expense in support of Israel, even if it means starting World War Three. That should scare any sane and rational thinking American. But then, with the exception of Ron Paul, and maybe Jon Huntsman, all the Republican Candidates are big supporters of Israel, and would probably use the military in support of Israel. To be fair to Ron Paul and Jon Huntsman, I don't believe they are as radical as I in regards to Israel. But, at least I am confident that they would not use the military for flimsy pro-Israel reasons.

Whoever those people are that are occupying Palestine, they are not U.S. citizens, and as such are not entitled to the protections of our Constitution. They have no right to expect that if they attack Iran that the United States will come to their aid if they find themselves outmatched. And if the Republicans nominate anyone besides Ron Paul or Jon Huntsman, we will have no choice but to re-elect Obama and hope for the best till 2016.

 

[Paulitics 2011]

Well guys, look at my new thread.

Later in the debate, he calls himself a Reaganite.

Reagan, however, disagrees.

 

[oyarde]

Techically , he could be right , somewhere between the 10th to the 7th centuries the Philistines were absorbed into other cultures . I have no idea what he really means .

 

[erowe1]

All people groups are inventions: Palestinians, Israelis, white people, all of them.

 

[pcosmar]

The real puzzle is,, Why the Khazars think they have a right to Palestine.

 

[light200763]

Newt is wrong in my view.

 

[TheDrakeMan]

The Palestinians in Gaza are the ancient Philistines from biblical times. Too bad Joshua didn't finish them off.

Philistines don't have anything to do with Palestinians. Philistines were an Indo-European pagan group that had more in common with Greeks. Palestinians are a Semitic muslim people. I'm sure Palestinians have some philistian ancestry (so do Jews and many Arabs for that matter) but it isn't a continuation of their culture or ethnic group.

 

[Zippyjuan]

The name may have been invented, but the people weren't.

 

[unknown]

We should just stay out of it. Disturbs me to think that American politicians have to go into a room full of alleged Americans and talk about how they would support a foreign country.

 

[james1906]

So are the Basques, Navajos, and Kurds invented for not having their own state? Are Americans, Canadians, Argentinians, Taiwanese, and Austrians invented for not having their own language?

 

[Pauls' Revere]

since 1776 are Americans an invented people?

 

[SpiritOf1776_J4]

since 1776 are Americans an invented people?

It boils down to that. I had a rabbi posting from Israel tell me that it was all Christians that were responsible for Jews being persecuted for 2,000 years. This despite the fact that Christians were persecuted at their beginning by a pagan Roman empire - and the Talmud reveres Nero the first persecutor as a converted Jew! (whether true or false).

Notice that that isn't Muslims. The same arguments being used against Muslims or Arabs are easily applied to Americans or Christians. Supporting injustice against anyone is wrong.

* search on talmud, nero
https://www.google.com/search?q=talmud+nero&rlz=1I7ACAW_enUS390US390&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7