Gingrich: 3rd Party May Clip GOP in 2012 Constitution Party Likely New Home

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Gingrich: 3rd Party May Clip GOP in 2012

Constitution Party Likely New Home for Conservatives

Lancaster, PA (April 6, 2009) The county’s fastest-growing third party, the Constitution Party, cites former House Speaker Newt Gingrich’s warning that conservatives may opt for a third party ( http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0409/20809.html) as further indication that voters will continue to look beyond the “Big Box” parties.

“If the Republicans can’t break out of being the right wing party of big government, then I think you would see a third party movement in 2012, Gingrich said during an address to students at the College of the Ozarks in Missouri.

Formed in 1992, the Constitution Party has seen increasing numbers of voters switching party affiliation while recording the largest number of new registrations of any party, according to the independent voting analysis publication Ballot Access News .

“Voters used to think they’d be wasting their votes by voting for a third party candidate” said Constitution Party National Committee Chairman Jim Clymer. “Those days appear to be over. I ask those wondering about the third party option how long they think it will take to get the kind of government they believe in, if they keep voting for people who won’t support their views,” Clymer added, reminding “conservatives” who voted for George W. Bush that their support made possible “Bush’s rush toward a fascist economy and a tyrannical federal government and laid the perfect groundwork for Obama to finish the job.”

The Constitution Party points out why major party faithful are feeling betrayed noting the Republicans failed voters on hot button issues like immigration, privacy, civil liberties and spending and the Democrats failed their base on the war and the so-called "Bailouts."

The Constitution Party’s 2008 presidential candidate Chuck Baldwin was endorsed by former GOP presidential candidate, one of the few constitutionally-correct members of Congress, Rep. Ron Paul. CNN’s Lou Dobbs interviewed Baldwin and told his viewers he had a “reason to vote for (Baldwin).” (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-DyfFa0tZg)

Clymer, like Gingrinch, believes true conservatives will finally leave the GOP in 2012, noting the lukewarm response to GOP presidential candidate Senator John McCain by party faithful who saw little difference between the two contenders: “… John McCain , if he had won, would likely have promoted the same causes that Obama is pursuing and perhaps would have a more successful record in the results because the Republican faithful would be obliged to go right along with him.”“Now that fully � of all voters label themselves “independent” the new base is neither Republican nor Democrat…so 2012 is up for grabs!”, predicted Clymer.

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So, he hijacked the New Christian Right and used it as a vehicle to gain power--and then did nothing they wanted him to do. Now he's trying to lead them off into the Dead Sea, so they cease to be a political force. That will be handy for the socialists, won't it?
 
I know it is evil to have these thoughts, but I wish Newt would drop dead.

He is a bigger threat to any GOP reform than Sanford could ever hope to be.
 
I know it is evil to have these thoughts, but I wish Newt would drop dead.

He is a bigger threat to any GOP reform than Sanford could ever hope to be.

Personally right now the number of politicians I trust I could count on one hand.

The solution to this isn't going to come via politics, I can tell you that.

When all this is said and done, I'd be surprised if America has political parties ever again; this model of politics has proved itself to be a colossal failure, bringing the nation to the brink of destruction - as predicted by George Washington in his farewell address.
 
Boy don't those reformist Libertarians feel like idiots right now...

"But all we need to do is get a big name candidate in as our presidential candidate...so what if his record shows otherwise, he says he believes what we do!"

R.I.P. LP (1971-2008)
 
That's fine with me. If Newt wants to draw religious people to the Constitution Party (or should I say the Big Federal Religion Party), that's fine. The fiscal conservatives who are not religious can go the LP or start a new party with the help of Dr Paul.

The GOP is fucked.
 
The Constitution Party’s 2008 presidential candidate Chuck Baldwin was endorsed by former GOP presidential candidate, one of the few constitutionally-correct members of Congress, Rep. Ron Paul. CNN’s Lou Dobbs interviewed Baldwin and told his viewers he had a “reason to vote for Baldwin.
Does anyone one know who the "few" other constitutionally correct members of congress are? They must have slipped by me all these years. :)
 
Are you guys kidding me?

The number of people in this country who even understand why limiting the government's power is a desirable thing to do is probably a minority to begin with. And we're split into two camps: those who want to reform the Republican party and rein in social conservatives from interfering in their fellow citizens' private lives, and those who would rather try to build up the Libertarian party into a viable third option. As if we weren't already split enough, now you want to divide us ever futher by splitting people off into the Constitution party? That's insane.

And also, Newt Gingrich has accomplished more than anyonce since Barry Goldwater as far as spreading the word about fiscal discipline. He co-wrote the contract with America. He pushed the balanced budget amendment. He brough fiscal restraint into vogue in America. He's not a perfect man, but he deserves our respect.

The point he was trying to make is that the current GOP leadership needs to carefully consider who they support as candidates in 2012. If a Sarah Palin or a Bobby Jindal wins the nomination, there's a good chance a lot of us (myself included) will vote third party. This isn't going to make a third party a viable option. It's just going to hand another win to the Democrats. That's what he was saying.
 
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Boy don't those reformist Libertarians feel like idiots right now...

"But all we need to do is get a big name candidate in as our presidential candidate...so what if his record shows otherwise, he says he believes what we do!"

R.I.P. LP (1971-2008)

Barr was a consequence of Bardnarik.
The anarchist have ran the conventions up til 07-08.
Badnarik did so poorly that the swing vote moderates of the party took a chance on GOP-lite. They have done this only once.
Your attitude towards the situation is a bit over-blown in my opinion.
If you weren't there participating... and you didn't recruit delegates with you to vote for mary. Then you are apart of that problem.
Louisiana's delegation was split Mary/Barr.
 
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A republican win in 2012, a democrat win in 2012....its tyranny either way.
 
Are you guys kidding me?

The number of people in this country who even understand why limiting the government's power is a desirable thing to do is probably a minority to begin with. And we're split into two camps: those who want to reform the Republican party and rein in social conservatives from interfering in their fellow citizens' private lives, and those who would rather try to build up the Libertarian party into a viable third option. As if we weren't already split enough, now you want to divide us ever futher by splitting people off into the Constitution party? That's insane.

It's not just the religious loonies who have hijacked the GOP, it's also the big-spending federal warmonger neocons. Many times there is significant overlap of these two insidious forces. Sarah Palin comes to mind.
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If Gingrich can pull some of the lunatic religious fringe from the GOP and attract them to the Constitution Party, that will only speed the demise of the GOP, or make it easier for paleocons and libertarians and fiscal conservatives to take it over. Either way, the ending of the two-party system is a goal. Once the GOP splits, the Dems will probably split, too, with the far left flocking a "Progressive" party or greens or something - maybe some of them might even flock our way once the religious zealots and neocons have been purged. Either way, ending the stanglehold of the failed two-party is a major goal, so if Gingrich wants to help us do it, fine with me.

As for your claims that Gingrich deserves praise and thanks.. fuck that. The guy was on TV the other night calling for an attack on North Korea. He's also a Big Federal Religion nut, even though in his personal life his morality is about on the same level as a snake.
 
Gingrich is a snake and a lover of government power. What ever party splits ultimately occur keeping the big government rats out of them will be a major concern. Whats the point of a new party if its infected with the same virus as the old. Beware of political CHAMELEONS...check out their records before signing on to their BS. :)
 
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the neo cons actually pulled the religious folk into the GOP. they didn't even vote for the longest because they considered both parties to be immoral...which they are. The christians were cajoled into the GOP by the neoconservatives...there is a documentary about that. If they bail to the Constitution Party...more power to them. Tones
 
That's fine with me. If Newt wants to draw religious people to the Constitution Party (or should I say the Big Federal Religion Party), that's fine. The fiscal conservatives who are not religious can go the LP or start a new party with the help of Dr Paul.

The GOP is fucked.

Nice theory. Odd that he endorsed the CP candidate.
 
I think you have the same false impression of the religious right as they have of you
historically speaking democrats supposedly are for labor and the GOP for big businness
christians started voting for the GOP because democrats became too liberal then they stopped voting for the GOP because they became globalizationist.
The christian votes may be the social conservatives, but they are the most nationalist and patroitic and actually know what the constitution and the bill of rights say. and they are the gop groups that feel strongly about supression of constitutiona freedoms and the 2nd amendment.
You can not use any term to classify them right now becaue they don not have an identity
except for this those who are still true believers in Bush and those who think that the only reason he should not have been impeached was because that would have really put Cheney in charge
 
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