Ghislaine Maxwell Arrested In New Hampshire

[Anti Globalist]

 

[ClaytonB]

Epstein's little square temple is visible on Google Earth historical imagery. There's a gap from 2009 to 2013. Prior to and up through 2009 there's no temple there, then it is there in 2013. In 2014 a golden dome is added to the top of it, and then in 2017 that dome is no longer there. The building remains after that and is still there today. You can't view it from the side well enough to see the stripes. But satellite images from various angles do show its box shape. The geometric patterns on the pavement outside it are also clearly visible in most of the satellite images.

-- as far as I can tell, the entire history of that island and any structures on it have been completely fabricated. Google Earth "historical" imagery means nothing to me.

Edit: A google image search shows plenty of photos of it both with and without the golden dome. But it's the same temple. It looks corny. But it's real.

Yes, I know the cardboard cutout really exists there. Someone actually built that. But it wasn't Epstein, at least, it wasn't what Epstein originally built.

Edit 2: Aside from the alternating dark and light lines (a not uncommon architectural feature called Ablaq), the structure you showed doesn't look like a good candidate for the one that Epstein's was modeled after. Epstein's (when it had the golden dome) looked more like this one.

That's also a good candidate -- the point is that he was inspired by this style of mosque, and that was a widely-known fact. I don't need to see photographs to "remember" what the original temple looked like, I distinctly remember it well enough to recognize that this current structure is not what he had originally built on LSJ -- it's not even close. I remember the original temple but many other people might not. That's OK, just open your eyeballs and look. Look at the palm trees. Look at the random zig-zagging of the outer perimeter of the pavement stones, as well as the random non-alignment of the patterns with each other. Look at the lack of landscaping / white-space / setting surrounding the building -- a building like that on a bluff would have some kind of skirt wall or something to make the building look "situated" on the bluff, not just randomly dropped in place. I can go on, but the point is that you don't even have to remember the photos of the old temple to know that this one is a fake. A blind monkey could build a more visually-appealing structure.

To reiterate: sometime after Epstein's 2008 arrest, someone demolished the original temple that existed on LSJ and replaced it with this cardboard-cutout Disneyland prop. No one goes to that kind of trouble to cover up coke & hookers parties where there are teenage girls present (such parties are commonplace among the clown-"elites".) Something else was happening on LSJ, something that had to be covered up at any cost. The hyper-focus on Epstein's sexual proclivities is a propaganda ruse whose purpose is to misdirect public attention away from whatever was really going on at LSJ. Screwing teens is just evil enough to horrify the soccer-Mom masses, but not so evil as to point the way further down the rabbit-hole. Epstein and Ghislaine (and possible Andrew) are the scapegoats. That's exactly why they were being paid the big bucks to begin with. This is not rocket-science.

 

[Swordsmyth]

So, that suit wasn't filed until August of 2020 and it's making allegations about the 70s, when he wasn't connected or being paid mega bucks by whoever. I'm skeptical. It does not add up with the m.o. of a pedophile to raping adult women (also alleged). This looks like plaintiffs and lawyers looking to get some of that money.

The second one was in 1993:

“In or about 1993, when Plaintiff Jane Doe XIII was approximately eleven years old, Epstein sexually assaulted, abused, battered and digitally penetrated her on three, separate occasions,” the lawsuit continues. “Epstein also forced Plaintiff to perform oral sex on him.”


Some people are into more than one perversion.

 

[susano]

Yes, precisely. As for what was actually going on at LSJ, I don't rule anything in or out because we just don't have enough evidence. If you go look at the island on Google Maps, you will see that the majority of the island today (as of the last satellite photos taken, anyway, and assuming that the photos are even real) is just barren grass, access roads and gravel lots. I remember seeing photos of large tennis court / rec area which appears to have been completely stripped from the island. There is a boat-dock area on the south shore of the island that appears to have been demolished. In fact, the only part of the island that doesn't appear to have been demolished is the main living quarters, and the marina there. This doesn't look like the work of a single individual, this looks like the work of a small army. Did Epstein actually send a rock-crusher there or is that just a convenient cover-story for whoever actually did the demo work on that island?

Once again, going off of behavioral analysis, there seems to be a large number of people who are desperately interested in making sure that LSJ just fades from our collective memory and are willing to invest virtually unlimited resources for that purpose. Are they just LARPing us to try to egg us into believing there was evil going on there, when it was just your standard coke&hookers partying? That doesn't make sense, either, because there have been lots of coke&hookers parties on lots of remote islands that people are quite proud of (even if they can't brag too openly due to the authorities). And legal age becomes quite flexible in international areas due to the wide variation in consent age laws around the world. So even Epstein's proclivity for teenage girls doesn't explain this mysterious black hole of information about what was going on at LSJ.

Supposing that Epstein's island was being used for grave evil, the bodies would already be disposed of somehow. So perhaps the structures themselves were incriminating and that's what the demo operation was all about. I will reiterate -- the "temple" that is currently on the island, and which you will see in all web-search images, without exception, is not the actual temple that I distinctly remember seeing in photographs. It's a cartoon-cutout cardboard Hollywood prop meant to evoke "the temple" imagery from long-distance. I distinctly remember what the original temple looked like (there's a mosque it was modeled on) but most people might not. But even if you don't remember, you should be able to figure out that this "temple" is a fake just by taking one look at it, and considering Epstein's over-wrought artistic and architectural tastes. He had a taste for the kitsch and the overdone. Do you really believe that someone with effectively infinite cash, and a taste for the grandiose, would have built such a cartoon cutout box on his island?? Be serious.

Notice how the inset of the door is just "painted on", like a Disneyland prop. That will get you started... the more you look (web search for the images), the weirder it gets.

The architectural style that was said to have inspired Epstein's "temple":

Is there any real resemblance between these two structures? Now, ask yourself this -- how is it that there are zero images of the original temple available through web-search on any search engine? Google, DDG, Gibiru, it makes no difference where you search, you will not find a single photo of the original temple.

That current pic looks like a computer generated image. I do remember the original, from the photos taken by that guy who went out there with a drone that even got shots through windows. That temple - the original - also just had a painted on front door. It was obviously camouflaging something else. I din't find his LSJ digs very impressive. Not beautiful or even extravagant. Same for Palm Beach and New Mexico. That Manhattan place, though was incredible. That's one given to him for one dollar, by Wexner. So many Jews. Smells like a shitty little country in the middle east, to me.

If Epstein was involved in drug running, a private Caribbean island would fit with that. But I think there was something else - and I don't mean girls. I'll bet it was weapons deals.

 

[susano]

The second one was in 1993:

“In or about 1993, when Plaintiff Jane Doe XIII was approximately eleven years old, Epstein sexually assaulted, abused, battered and digitally penetrated her on three, separate occasions,” the lawsuit continues. “Epstein also forced Plaintiff to perform oral sex on him.”


Some people are into more than one perversion.

Pedophiles are only attracted to pre pubescent children, just as gays are only attracted to gays. You aren't gonna see Anderson Cooper date a woman and pedos don't pursue sex with teens and adult women.

You realize these same kinds of stories were alleged against Trump, right? They didn't stick because they were not true. Trump is not a moral man but likes hot, adult females, not little girls. Epstein liked teens and 20s.

 

[ClaytonB]

That current pic looks like a computer generated image. I do remember the original, from the photos taken by that guy who went out there with a drone that even got shots through windows. That temple - the original - also just had a painted on front door. It was obviously camouflaging something else. I din't find his LSJ digs very impressive. Not beautiful or even extravagant. Same for Palm Beach and New Mexico. That Manhattan place, though was incredible. That's one given to him for one dollar, by Wexner. So many Jews. Smells like a $#@!ty little country in the middle east, to me.

If Epstein was involved in drug running, a private Caribbean island would fit with that. But I think there was something else - and I don't mean girls. I'll bet it was weapons deals.

Countless zillions of dollars of drugs and guns have been run by the CIA (and likely Mossad) all without batting an eyelash, even when they were caught with their pants around their ankles, as in the Iran-Contra deal. Whatever was happening on LSJ was another kind of evil that "can't happen." I won't try to speculate about what they were up to, but I have a strong feeling that "cosmic evil from the pit of hell" is along the general lines of it. The photos I saw before they were memory-holed and disappeared from the Internet, were of a single-story, wide structure with enough indoor space to hold a large gathering of people, like a moderate-sized mosque. It had some windows and it had a view of the ocean, but it was not on a bluff and it wasn't a "rape room"[1] as the current cardboard prop is presented in the news as. It was nestled onto the island, closer to the center, and was surrounded by thick foliage, not just a handful of palm trees. It was well-appointed and both the exterior architecture and the surrounding terrace and landscaping were ornate and clearly said "expensive". Kitsch or not, Epstein's taste was (is?), like most nouveau-riche, for clothes, items, cars, properties, etc. that loudly say "expensive". You can criticize his tastes in art and bathroom layout, but it was all very obviously expensive stuff. Even ignorant, underage girls from Florida would know everything he had was extraordinarily expensive. This current Disneyland cardboard cutout prop says everything that anybody needs to know about the kind of evil that Epstein was involved in and the lengths that those who got involved in it are willing to go to cover up whatever was really happening on that island.

[1] -- Although who knows if it might have had such a room in it somewhere.

 

[ClaytonB]

Pedophiles are only attracted to pre pubescent children, just as gays are only attracted to gays. You aren't gonna see Anderson Cooper date a woman and pedos don't pursue sex with teens and adult women.

You realize these same kinds of stories were alleged against Trump, right? They didn't stick because they were not true. Trump is not a moral man but likes hot, adult females, not little girls. Epstein liked teens and 20s.

Swordsmyth is right about this. The news keeps trying to make this a story about a "lone-wolf billionaire playboy who liked screwing teenagers and was willing to blow unlimited cash to get what he wanted." I won't go into a whole debunking of this right now, but the fact is that Epstein was a convicted criminal after being arrested in 2008. And he was involved with a Mossad spy (Robert Maxwell). That's the first level of why this story is so pumped full of mind-melting levels of propaganda. The Antichrist State can do no wrong! But that's only the first layer. So far, we don't have concrete details about who was doing what but it's not difficult to read between the lines on the basis of the information we do have (who was involved, and the damage-control that has been implemented since 2008). To be blunt, I think it may be for the best that whatever was happening there got buried, at least, until the Day of Judgment. Because I don't think the general population is yet prepared to cope with the contemplation of such soul-crushing evils.

Don't just accept the news headline narrative (propaganda) about Epstein. He was a criminal, and like any criminal, he was a predator, and he didn't care about the rules. Even if he was "only" a sexual predator (possible, but who really knows?), the news propaganda should not be permitted to try to minimize this story, as they have done in every possible way. We know that the courts have only heard a subset of Epstein's victims. So we simply don't know the true extents of his predatory pattern, and we can't rule out any possibilities in the absence of evidence.

 

[Snowball]

Amazing rig job by the chosenz.

Verdict will be tossed. Chosenz AG. Chosenz Judge. Zhosenz Juror said he was sexually abused and did not say so in juror questionairres,
plus another juror (anonymous) also said he or she was abused. This was a set-up. Kudos to the brilliant scheme.

 

[devil21]

Comment in the reddit thread:

My guess would be crushing rocks on the island for roads, landscaping and breakwaters (or maybe backfilling tunnels) Who knows what else he threw in there but my guess it would be cheaper to buy a crusher than to ferry over trucks full of crushed rock especially if the island is mostly huge Basalt boulders and shit like that

That would be my guess. Another comment said bodies are easy to get rid of, which I also agree with when you're out on a private island. I don't think his thing was about murder, I think it probably involved stuff like weapons dealing, possibly drugs, money laundering, etc. I have no evidence for that guess but it's what makes most sense to me. Somebody was paying him an enormous amount of money to do what he was doing and it wasn't arranging happy endings which can be had anywhere.

There's an extensive tunnel system running all throughout the island. Rock crushing could be used for filling in tunnels or making disposal of tunneling byproducts easier. I do recall reading credible (imo) reports that Epstein's network engaged in a lot more than just blackmail operations, which did indeed include arms and drug trafficking. Proceeds from those activities would go much further in explaining his relatively quickly amassed wealth and his direct sponsoring by Wexner (Wall St darling companies like L Brands are known for their ability to act as money laundering fronts, especially as their "legit" business avenues are faltering). Intel agencies and their assets engage in a lot more illicit activities than just blackmail/honeypot operations. Focusing purely on blackmail, as bad as that is, provides cover for much more egregious activities like running weapons to dictators to use for genocides.....see: Lord of War film https://hdonline.co/movie/lord-of-war/ which also makes the associate prosecutor's status as a DIA alum more understandable and makes Epstein's associations with Presidents (ahem...Mena AR airport) and Royal family members and Rothschilds, collectively the biggest gun and drug runners on the planet, more understandable.

There's an older Epstein thread on RPF with a lot of info in it that should be linked into this thread for historical record-keeping purposes, since this thread only covers historical info from GMax's arrest to today. A lot of other good info is contained in older threads.

 

[ClaytonB]

There's an extensive tunnel system running all throughout the island. Rock crushing could be used for filling in tunnels or making disposal of tunneling byproducts easier. I do recall reading credible (imo) reports that Epstein's network engaged in a lot more than just blackmail operations, which did indeed include arms and drug trafficking. Proceeds from those activities would go much further in explaining his relatively quickly amassed wealth and his direct sponsoring by Wexner (Wall St darling companies like L Brands are known for their ability to act as money laundering fronts, especially as their "legit" business avenues are faltering). Intel agencies and their assets engage in a lot more illicit activities than just blackmail/honeypot operations. Focusing purely on blackmail, as bad as that is, provides cover for much more egregious activities like running weapons to dictators to use for genocides.....see: Lord of War film https://hdonline.co/movie/lord-of-war/ which also makes the associate prosecutor's status as a DIA alum more understandable and makes Epstein's associations with Presidents (ahem...Mena AR airport) and Royal family members and Rothschilds, collectively the biggest gun and drug runners on the planet, more understandable.

There's an older Epstein thread on RPF with a lot of info in it that should be linked into this thread for historical record-keeping purposes, since this thread only covers historical info from GMax's arrest to today. A lot of other good info is contained in older threads.

OK, but the real point here is that Epstein is the distraction, the scapegoat, the bright flash-bang that is supposed to take up all our attention so that we don't pay attention to the magic-trick (cover-up) being done elsewhere on stage. This is not a story about a lone-wolf billionaire. Epstein was the junior partner in whatever they were doing on LSJ. Even if it was drugs, guns and human-trafficking, that still does not explain the level of this coverup. I point people to the Memory Hole'd temple on the island to illustrate this point -- someone made all the genuine photos of that island disappear, not just on Google, but on cnn.com, msnbc.com, The Guardian, etc. etc. ... that doesn't happen to cover up some penny-ante Caribbean smuggling operation. Something else was happening there, something that absolutely can not be permitted to be exposed to public attention, at any cost.

 

[devil21]

[MENTION=35009]ClaytonB[/MENTION] - Not sure if you're being coy or are genuinely unsure but it's probably a safe bet to assume that Pizzagatey type stuff was going on there and similar Illuminatiesque rituals. But of course media says that's all fairy tale tinfoilery so that's probably not it.....

 

[ClaytonB]

[MENTION=35009]ClaytonB[/MENTION] - Not sure if you're being coy or are genuinely unsure but it's probably a safe bet to assume that Pizzagatey type stuff was going on there and similar Illuminatiesque rituals. But of course media says that's all fairy tale tinfoilery so that's probably not it.....

The point is that all of that stuff is hearsay from a legal standpoint. This is the game the clown-"elites" are playing -- they bait outrageous theories and wild speculations so they can show up to court and ask, "Where's the evidence?" Meanwhile, they are committing real crimes, as bad or worse than anything that people are speculating about.

In the case of LSJ/Lolita-Express and all things associated with that, what we know for a fact is that Epstein was screwing kids. Hookers are a dime-a-dozen in London, DC and any other major political center and, as we know from the DC Madam case, there are businessmen(/women) who specialize in discreetly catering to politically-sensitive customers (meaning, public officials who could get voted out of office if caught partying with hookers while their wife is at home tending the kids.) So Clinton, Andrew and all the rest of the cast of characters weren't taking the Lolita-Sexpress just to discreetly attend coke & hookers parties. And, of course, the idea that only Epstein was screwing kids is absurd.

And as horrific as pedophilia is, the sad fact is that the political clown-"elites" have always been engaging in such behavior and worse, behind closed-doors. We know this from the Franklin-scandal (Nebraska home for boys), let alone all the various sex scandals connected to the Roman church. Most of that has tended to be pederasty and male-male pedophilia, which is how they have historically kept it secret ("boys don't tell"). Other forms of abuse/exploitation have always existed. This is not some new phenomenon. The problem created by the modern smartphone age is that it has become increasingly difficult to be certain that no smoking-gun evidence of crimes committed has fallen into the wrong hands (meaning, into the hands of someone who can't be made to "deal".)

We also know that ritual criminal behavior has been occurring throughout all of human history. In pagan cultures, these rituals were often done right in the open square for everyone to see, in order to strike fear into the community. That is one of the reasons why pagan cultures have always been enslaved by fear. As Europe and other parts of the world have been swept over by the Gospel, these rituals have been forced underground, and the "deepest underground" is the church itself, meaning, the clergy themselves. So, yes, there are "illuminati-esque" rituals that are being performed today, as ever, because the power of Satan has not yet been completely expunged from this world (but it certainly will be.)

Were those sorts of crimes being committed on LSJ? We really don't know, and it doesn't really matter. You don't have to be a rocket-scientist to read the behavior of the Epstein-network and of all persons associated with LSJ/Lolita-Sexpress. The cover-up of this story has mobilized nation-state-scale resources, and that's all anybody really needs to know in order to understand that whatever is being covered up at LSJ is way, way beyond "lone-wolf billionaire with a proclivity for underage girls." If the rumor network is to be believed, Hugh Hefner made Epstein look like a rank amateur in that department. There was never a nation-state-scale mobilization of resources to cover up what was going on at the Playboy Mansion. LSJ is some other kind of thing.

 

[susano]

Countless zillions of dollars of drugs and guns have been run by the CIA (and likely Mossad) all without batting an eyelash, even when they were caught with their pants around their ankles, as in the Iran-Contra deal. Whatever was happening on LSJ was another kind of evil that "can't happen." I won't try to speculate about what they were up to, but I have a strong feeling that "cosmic evil from the pit of hell" is along the general lines of it. The photos I saw before they were memory-holed and disappeared from the Internet, were of a single-story, wide structure with enough indoor space to hold a large gathering of people, like a moderate-sized mosque. It had some windows and it had a view of the ocean, but it was not on a bluff and it wasn't a "rape room"[1] as the current cardboard prop is presented in the news as. It was nestled onto the island, closer to the center, and was surrounded by thick foliage, not just a handful of palm trees. It was well-appointed and both the exterior architecture and the surrounding terrace and landscaping were ornate and clearly said "expensive". Kitsch or not, Epstein's taste was (is?), like most nouveau-riche, for clothes, items, cars, properties, etc. that loudly say "expensive". You can criticize his tastes in art and bathroom layout, but it was all very obviously expensive stuff. Even ignorant, underage girls from Florida would know everything he had was extraordinarily expensive. This current Disneyland cardboard cutout prop says everything that anybody needs to know about the kind of evil that Epstein was involved in and the lengths that those who got involved in it are willing to go to cover up whatever was really happening on that island.

[1] -- Although who knows if it might have had such a room in it somewhere.

Well, what are you thinking, exactly - some kind of Satanic ritual stuff?

 

[susano]

Swordsmyth is right about this. The news keeps trying to make this a story about a "lone-wolf billionaire playboy who liked screwing teenagers and was willing to blow unlimited cash to get what he wanted." I won't go into a whole debunking of this right now, but the fact is that Epstein was a convicted criminal after being arrested in 2008. And he was involved with a Mossad spy (Robert Maxwell). That's the first level of why this story is so pumped full of mind-melting levels of propaganda. The Antichrist State can do no wrong! But that's only the first layer. So far, we don't have concrete details about who was doing what but it's not difficult to read between the lines on the basis of the information we do have (who was involved, and the damage-control that has been implemented since 2008). To be blunt, I think it may be for the best that whatever was happening there got buried, at least, until the Day of Judgment. Because I don't think the general population is yet prepared to cope with the contemplation of such soul-crushing evils.

Don't just accept the news headline narrative (propaganda) about Epstein. He was a criminal, and like any criminal, he was a predator, and he didn't care about the rules. Even if he was "only" a sexual predator (possible, but who really knows?), the news propaganda should not be permitted to try to minimize this story, as they have done in every possible way. We know that the courts have only heard a subset of Epstein's victims. So we simply don't know the true extents of his predatory pattern, and we can't rule out any possibilities in the absence of evidence.

Since you quoted me, I guess you're talking to me or, at least, including me.

Pedos aren't into adults or teens. That's all I was saying in an effort for some accuracy. That term gets thrown around as though it applies to any adult sexually attracted to anyone under 18 and it is not accurate. "Pedo" comes from the Greek referring to child (pais). What Epstein was a "ephebophile" (finally looked that up). The Pizzagate stuff is pedophilia (little kids), based upon the emails, social media posts and Podesta's "art" collection.

I'm not accepting any media narrative. I'm arguing against it. I also don't rule out many possibilities as to what he was up to but it's speculation.

we can't rule out any possibilities in the absence of evidence


Well, if you want a solid theory, you need evidence. Without it we're left to speculation, which is fine but shouldn't be stated as fact. We can speculate that he held Satanic rituals and he and his cohorts were cannibals but there is no evidence for that. The evidence shows us that Epstein was into teenage and 20 something females and roped them in with false promises and money. It also shows that somebody was paying him a hell of a lot of money and we don't know what for. The media and prosecutors, with the focus on the girls, has successfully covered up the issue of the money which is the real story here, imo.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Pedos aren't into adults or teens.

That's only true of some.
Others are into all sorts of perversions.
Not all qweers are only into the same sex, they have officialized that as being "Bisexual".

 

[susano]

There's an extensive tunnel system running all throughout the island. Rock crushing could be used for filling in tunnels or making disposal of tunneling byproducts easier. I do recall reading credible (imo) reports that Epstein's network engaged in a lot more than just blackmail operations, which did indeed include arms and drug trafficking. Proceeds from those activities would go much further in explaining his relatively quickly amassed wealth and his direct sponsoring by Wexner (Wall St darling companies like L Brands are known for their ability to act as money laundering fronts, especially as their "legit" business avenues are faltering). Intel agencies and their assets engage in a lot more illicit activities than just blackmail/honeypot operations. Focusing purely on blackmail, as bad as that is, provides cover for much more egregious activities like running weapons to dictators to use for genocides.....see: Lord of War film https://hdonline.co/movie/lord-of-war/ which also makes the associate prosecutor's status as a DIA alum more understandable and makes Epstein's associations with Presidents (ahem...Mena AR airport) and Royal family members and Rothschilds, collectively the biggest gun and drug runners on the planet, more understandable.

There's an older Epstein thread on RPF with a lot of info in it that should be linked into this thread for historical record-keeping purposes, since this thread only covers historical info from GMax's arrest to today. A lot of other good info is contained in older threads.

Thanks for the movie and I didn't know about the asst prosecutor being former DIA.

Yes, blackmail, if that went on, isn't an end itself. The purpose to buy influence favorable to the blackmailing party. Influence for what entity? Pretty obvious. Wexner fits the profile of Sayanim:

Sayanim (Hebrew: סייענים) are Jews who live outside of Israel and often hold citizenships of countries they reside in, but who volunteer or are recruited clandestinely by Mossad to assist with their operations.

The word Sayanim is Hebrew for "assisters" or "collaborators". The term Sayanim itself is plural, with a single one being a Sayan (Hebrew: סייענ).

Former Mossad officer Victor Ostrovsky, wrote extensively about activities of the Sayanim, as has Gordon Thomas. "According Ostrovsky and Gordon Thomas, the sayanim provide assistance of various kinds to Mossad officers operating in foreign countries. This assistance can include facilitating medical care, money, logistics, and even overt intelligence gathering. They can be judges, court clerks, expert witnesses, child protective service workers, Assistant District Attorneys, police officers, or anyone with a great degree of power over people's lives, and will do anything at the behest of Mossad case officers (known as a katsa) for the State of Israel against its enemies or those perceived to be unfavorable politically to Israeli policy." Sayanim are not paid and are only reimbursed for their expenses.[1]

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Sayanim

 

[susano]

In 2015, the Israeli newspaper Haaretz reported that Epstein invested in the startup Reporty Homeland Security (rebranded as Carbyne in 2018).[76][77][78] The startup is connected with Israel's defense industry. It is headed by former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak, who was also at one time the defense minister, and chief of staff of the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF). The CEO of the company is Amir Elihai who was a special forces officer, and Pinchas Bukhris, who is a director of the company, was at one time the defense ministry director general and commander of the IDF cyber unit 8200.[79] Epstein and Barak, the head of Carbyne, were close, and Epstein often offered him lodging at one of his apartment units at 301 East 66th Street in Manhattan.[80][81] Epstein had past experience with Israel's research and military sector.[82] In April 2008, he went to Israel and met with a number of research scientists and visited different Israeli military bases.[82] During this trip, he thought about staying in Israel in order to avoid trial, and possible jail, for charges he was facing for sex crimes; however, he opted to return to the United States.[83]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein#Early_life

And that's from ziopedia so it would be only the tippy top of the iceberg.

I suspect that Epstein's curating of people of scientific achievement had to do with benefits for Israel.

 

[ClaytonB]

Well, what are you thinking, exactly - some kind of Satanic ritual stuff?

Or maybe just satanic, meaning, the actual operation of Satan on earth. In the modern world, we have a tendency to treat "spiritual war" as a synonym for "imaginary war", like Saruman and Gandalf having a wizard-battle, or something. The devil is literally at war with us in the same sense that the Nazis were at war with the Allies in WWII. Literal war, with the objective of complete obliteration, not merely physical, but also spiritual (that's why he targets the soul). Perhaps somebody left a portal open that wasn't supposed to be left open. Or who knows. Whatever it is/was, it is not business-as-usual, it is not just another Eyes Wide Shut masked orgy. Something bigger is going on. I'm wary to jump on the "satanic ritual" bandwagon because this is a classic trap that has been deployed many times in history (Salem witch-trials, 80's Satanic-panic, etc.) That doesn't mean it's fake, it just means that if you go charging in headlong, you're probably running into a trap. Nowadays, I don't care what people say with their lips (including judges/lawyers/Presidents/etc), I only look at their behavior. The behavior of those involved in this can only be accurately described as desperate. If it's all "under control" and "going to plan", why are they desperate??

 

[Swordsmyth]

I'm wary to jump on the "satanic ritual" bandwagon because this is a classic trap that has been deployed many times in history (Salem witch-trials, 80's Satanic-panic, etc.)

Those were not entirely fake either.
THEY teach you that it was all hysteria and THEY created fake elements at the time and afterwards to provide "proof" it was all hysteria.
THEY will try to do the same to the things exposed now if given the chance.

 

[ClaytonB]

Since you quoted me, I guess you're talking to me or, at least, including me.

Pedos aren't into adults or teens. That's all I was saying in an effort for some accuracy. That term gets thrown around as though it applies to any adult sexually attracted to anyone under 18 and it is not accurate. "Pedo" comes from the Greek referring to child (pais). What Epstein was a "ephebophile" (finally looked that up). The Pizzagate stuff is pedophilia (little kids), based upon the emails, social media posts and Podesta's "art" collection.

OK, but I think you're missing my point -- I don't care which psychological malfunction(s) drove Epstein to act as he did, I'm interested in why the media is so desperate to distract attention away from all things Epstein/Maxwell, and why they are so intent to paint this out as a story that is about a lone-wolf billionaire sicko. Our focus is supposed to be exclusively on Epstein and his sexual proclivities. While we must acknowledge the evil of his sexual proclivities, to stop at that is simply yielding to the propaganda/mind-control. I am only interested in what Epstein was doing for the intelligence network(s) he was working with/for, as a junior partner. Epstein was not the mastermind, he was the gopher. The real mastermind(s) have invested more than 10 years into meticulously framing up Epstein, altering LSJ and even altering all photos of it available over web-search. If that doesn't make you (generic) curious about what was really going on, I don't know what possibly could.

we can't rule out any possibilities in the absence of evidence


Well, if you want a solid theory, you need evidence. Without it we're left to speculation, which is fine but shouldn't be stated as fact. We can speculate that he held Satanic rituals and he and his cohorts were cannibals but there is no evidence for that.

Correct.

The evidence shows us that Epstein was into teenage and 20 something females and roped them in with false promises and money. It also shows that somebody was paying him a hell of a lot of money and we don't know what for. The media and prosecutors, with the focus on the girls, has successfully covered up the issue of the money which is the real story here, imo.

I don't know what is the real story. I don't think it's the money. I don't think it's the underage girls. I don't think it was drugs/guns, either. It was some other kind of thing because the reaction of the clown-"elites" to this story is completely unprecedented. Nothing like this has ever happened, before. It's historically unprecedented. And that's saying a lot, because the "elites" have always been indulging in all kinds of horrors, out of public view. (We know this because of the few that get caught, from time to time).

As for the Q/Abramovic angle (pedovorism/vamprisim/etc.), you're right that these are unsubstantiated rumors (thus, dangerous). They might yet turn out to be true, but when dealing with these snakes, it's essential not to run headlong after every bait that is hung out in the news headlines. They carefully mix in enough lies/disinfo that you are almost sure to misfire and show yourself up. This is how they did the 2020 election heist. Those who are still smarting from the 2020 election steal should think very carefully about the larger lesson here. We're dealing with some kind of preternaturally skilled illusionists. Anyone who can perceive this much is able to realize that they are pure evil, because only those who are pure evil can engage in such criminal levels of deception.

Are we witnessing the onset of the Great Deception? Only the signs can determine that, but I encourage people to start looking for the signs, because what is happening today not only aligns with Matthew 24, but is absolutely unprecedented. Nothing like this has ever happened before. Are we sleeping through the onset of the end times?