Gerald Celente: Total Economic Collapse in Q1 2014

[GunnyFreedom]

RT America blows away the garbage we get from these weapons of mass distraction who are the media here. Real issues are up for discussion and I think many seem to have a problem with that.

Look at the fodder we see posted all over the site from the main stream sources...then compare it with what you get from RT America. Then ask who is winning the information war. Information that is truly relevant, I'd add.

RT is the first news channel to break the 1 billion YouTube views benchmark. If I were a political strategist I think I'd consider the depth of my base in a more realistic manner before trying to feed them some nonsensical illusion of relevance to political theater. Now, more than ever, a much larger demographic has come to understand and appreciate the facts. People are coming around to the idea of questioning more. This may hurt the feelings of some who may not want to provide answers but instead would remain content to solicit their base to submit to the we ask, you decide model for what surmises current events, affect, and relevance. This is the difference in just trying to get elected and changing the course of history.

Yes, but don't make the mistake of thinking they are doing it out of altruism. RT has an agenda to report all the bad stuff they can about America. Since almost everything is bad right now, they come out on top for accuracy. If most things were good, I am confident that they would not.

 

[Madison320]

The timing of the (dollar) crash all depends on how much QE we can absorb. The fed is not going to stop until the dollar crashes. I don't see it taking more than a couple years.

 

[MRoCkEd]

It's fun to predict the world is going to shit and pretend you are one of the few smart enough to realize it. When it doesn't happen, you just keep pushing the date forward. Eventually, some of your predictions will come true and you highlight them and look like a genius.

 

[seapilot]

GC should take a cue from geologists. They can no way pinpoint the accuracy of an earthquake happening say in California. Looking at data and analysis they know its going to happen so people should not be surprised when it does.

If a person lives on a fault everything is good until it slips. Right now this whole fiat currency is one big fault underneath the current economy. It will slip and there will be lots of damage, but life will go on and people will rebuild as has happened for centuries.

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

RT America blows away the garbage we get from these weapons of mass distraction who are the media here. Real issues are up for discussion and I think many seem to have a problem with that.

Look at the fodder we see posted all over the site from the main stream sources...then compare it with what you get from RT America. Then ask who is winning the information war. Information that is truly relevant, I'd add.

RT is the first news channel to break the 1 billion YouTube views benchmark. If I were a political strategist I think I'd consider the depth of my base in a more realistic manner before trying to feed them some nonsensical illusion of relevance to political theater. Now, more than ever, a much larger demographic has come to understand and appreciate the facts. People are coming around to the idea of questioning more. This may hurt the feelings of some who may not want to provide answers but instead would remain content to solicit their base to submit to the we ask, you decide model for what surmises current events, affect, and relevance. This is the difference in just trying to get elected and changing the course of history.

RT has their own agenda and it doesn't necessarily coincide with the interest of the American people.

 

[emazur]

Sorry Gerry, I know you mean well, but I've been estimating December 2014 for years now and I'm sticking with it. My guestimate is really a range, from Nov 15th 2014 to February 28th 2015. I believe that they will manage to prop up the remaining fiction of an economy until after the 2014 General Election. I just say 'December 2014' because it's easier, and anything that falls within the range I've specified is close enough to Dec 2014 that I won't get quibbles about it. This has been my estimate since middle of 2009 and I'm sticking to it. Indeed, it formed the basis of my recovery plan. Elect Constitutionalists in 2014 to take the lead in the rebuilding effort.

2014 is what John Williams (ex-Boeing economist) said would be the outer range of when he predicted economic collapse. He was saying saying that in 2009 (within 5 years) and to his credit I saw an interview with him a couple weeks ago and he's sticking with his guns. We'll see though - besides killing, the other thing the US government is really good at is kicking the can down the road and relying on the greater fool to keep itself afloat. Personally, I'd be pretty surprised if the US economy doesn't implode between 2025 and 2030 (the point at which payments for interest on the national debt and entitlements exceeds 100% of federal revenue):
http://bipartisanpolicy.org/sites/default/files/FINAL DRTF EXECUTIVE SUMMARY_0.pdf

 

[TheNung]

The only place Gerald is going wrong is putting a date on it, imo.

100% agreed.

 

[Carson]

It has been openly crashing and burning since we openly went off having the monetary system tied into some form of reality like gold in 1971.

Is it any wonder we now control nothing and have many masters defining our every course of action?


I suppose one might say they counterfeited a counterfeit power over us. Just not very loudly!

 

[Natural Citizen]

RT has their own agenda and it doesn't necessarily coincide with the interest of the American people.

And here at home we have News Business. Which also doesn't coincide with the interest of the American People. Is a simple model of Growth versus survival.

Please don't assume that I am in need of education regarding geopolitical motive. I understand it just fine and can place it into relevant context.

The point of my post was simple. I'm not concerned with what they have to say about America. My interest (and the interest of a ever growing demographic) lies in the fact that they actually report on and discuss actual issues that affect the people that they need to know about. Something that they simply do not get from those who are simply in the news business.

I flipped through the channels today and the substance was a darn shame all the way across the board. Nothing of substance was being reported on up until I got to RT where they were discussing the war on drugs and things that many discuss here daily regarding it.

And what makes these "news" outlets here at home "American" anyway? Has anyone ever asked that?

 

[Carson]

And here at home we have News Business. Which also doesn't coincide with the interest of the American People. Is a simple model of Growth versus survival.

Please don't assume that I am in need of education regarding geopolitical motive. I understand it just fine and can place it into relevant context.

The point of my post was simple. I'm not concerned with what they have to say about America. My interest lies in the fact that they actually report on and discuss actual issues that affect the people that they need to know about. Something that they simply do not get from those who are simply in the news business.

I flipped through the channels today and the substance was a darn shame all the way across the board. Nothing of substance was being reported on up until I got to RT where they were discussing the war on drugs and things we discuss here daily regarding it.

And what makes these "news" outlets here at home "American" anyway?

Sad. Isn't it.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Sad. Isn't it.

It is. I understand why Gunny and BTL reframed what I said into ad hominem though. I really do. Some of our prospective representatives have come to welcome the recent corporate media coverage and we like to see that. For years we have complained about the lack thereof. But these are interesting times. What are they actualy addressing though? Not wise to play along with the we ask, you decide model when we have such a growing demograph of people who actually have questions other than the ones we see from these platforms. Questions based upon what they already know. Knowledge is power. And certainly there is something to be said for the strength that comes in numbers. We've grown comfortable with the notion that our numbers are the only ones and that cannot be any farther from the truth. We will see a larger demographic of voters than in previous years. To think that everyone has to just say "OK, we don't care about these things that were important to us yesterday because the other networks don't want to discuss them" is nonsensical.

This cannot continue to be the front door to the folks who question more. It's not communist to expect relevant reporting. No matter who paints a picture that it is.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

It is. I understand why Gunny and BTL reframed what I said into ad hominem though.

huh?

You've lost me.

I really do. Some of our prospective representatives have come to welcome the recent corporate media coverage and we like to see that. For years we have complained about the lack thereof. But these are interesting times. What are they actualy addressing though? Not wise to play along with the we ask, you decide model when we have such a growing demograph of people who actually have questions other than the ones we see from these platforms. Questions based upon what they already know. Knowledge is power. And certainly there is something to be said for the strength that comes in numbers. We've grown comfortable with the notion that our numbers are the only ones and that cannot be any farther from the truth. We will see a larger demographic of voters than in previous years. To think that everyone has to just say "OK, we don't care about these things that were important to us yesterday because the other networks don't want to discuss them" is nonsensical.

This cannot continue to be the front door to the folks who question more. It's not communist to expect relevant reporting. No matter who paints a picture that it is.

 

[Natural Citizen]

huh?

You've lost me.

Yes, I think so too. I didn't mean it in a bad way and understood your logic behind the "about" America aspect of it's reporting. Meaning to paint a picture to create a bad peception of us based on current events.

My view of usefulness from that platform simply involves the actual substance that they provide in reporting though. The actual current events. They're pretty good. In fact, much of what folks get from them is discussed here in depth at RPFs.

Have a look...
https://www.youtube.com/user/RTAmerica/videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/breakingtheset/videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/CapitalAccount/videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/theprimeinterest/videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/BoomBustRT/videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/WorldsApartRT/videos
https://www.youtube.com/channel/HChGN-FK8nxrE/videos

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Yes, I think so too. I didn't mean it in a bad way and understood your logic behind the "about" America aspect of it's reporting. Meaning to paint a picture to create a bad peception of us based on current events.

My view of usefulness from that platform simply involves the actual substance that they provide in reporting though. The actual current events. They're pretty good. In fact, much of what folks get from them is discussed here in depth at RPFs.

Have a look...
https://www.youtube.com/user/RTAmerica/videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/breakingtheset/videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/CapitalAccount/videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/theprimeinterest/videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/BoomBustRT/videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/WorldsApartRT/videos
https://www.youtube.com/channel/HChGN-FK8nxrE/videos

Oh I agree they are one of the better sources for American news in the world today; but that's because the vast majority of what's happening in America today is really, really bad. They don't have to embellish, they don't have to lie, they don't even have to overlook positives (although I have caught them overlooking positives before). The truth is bad enough. Right now all they have to do is report the truth and it makes America look bad, so that's what they are doing. At the moment they are one of the best sources that exists.

If our circumstances changed dramatically, however, that may not remain true. Imagine if Ron Paul won in 2008 and everything proceeded perfectly from there. Say maybe that by now we were entering a new era of peace and prosperity based on a principle of freedom and nonaggression. That could make Russia look bad, and RT (in that circumstance) may not even be a fraction as accurate as they are right now.

I guess my point is that I agree with you that they are just about the most accurate source for reporting on America in the world right now, but just to add the word of caution to not mistake that accuracy for altruism. They aren't doing it for the sake of journalistic integrity. We're just really that bad right now.

 

[Occam's Banana]

RT has their own agenda and it doesn't necessarily coincide with the interest of the American people.

It doesn't necessarily conflict with it, either.

I have yet to hear anyone say (or even suggest that), "RT altruistically has the American peoples' interests at heart." And so what if they don't?

Whatever their agenda might be, their "counter-spin" is a valuable & corrective "point of triangulation" that we otherwise would not have.

And to echo the RT promo-line, sometimes "truth is the best propaganda" ...

 

[Carson]

Really just what are they trying to call; when they will have the last nickel or the last natural resource locked up?

 

[Carson]

RT has their own agenda and it doesn't necessarily coincide with the interest of the American people.

So true. Then I can only listen and decide for myself.

They do bring up some interesting topics. Some of their agenda and points of view I can't tolerate. Keep my finger on the remote button for a quick get-a-way.

 

[helmuth_hubener]

It's fun to predict the world is going to shit and pretend you are one of the few smart enough to realize it. When it doesn't happen, you just keep pushing the date forward. Eventually, some of your predictions will come true and you highlight them and look like a genius.

Thank you! It can be a long (and financially painful!) road to come to realize this profound truth that you've put forth so simply here. None of us knows the future. Your favorite financial guru doesn't know the future. Warren Buffett doesn't know the future. Peter Schiff doesn't know the future. Gerald Celente doesn't know the future. Lew Rockwell doesn't know the future. Nobody knows the future. We're all in the dark together.

Plan accordingly.

 

[Zippyjuan]

How is that collapse going anyways? (Celente and Schiff are always saying collapse is right around the corner- eventually they may be right- eventually).

 

[jllundqu]

EVERYBODY PANIC!!!!!!!