Georgia--Another state seeking to further the gun confiscation agenda

[Cabal]

Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill

Georgia lawmakers have put forth several gun control bills this year, including a measure that would call on law enforcement to seize and destroy what the proposal deems “assault weapons” from gun owners.

A major purpose of HB 731 is “to designate certain weaponry and ammunition as contraband and to require seizure of such by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation.”

The measure requires “assault weapons” and “high caliber weapons” not turned in by owners to be seized by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation.

Under the bill, “Any selective fire firearm capable of fully automatic, semiautomatic, or burst fire at the option of the user” would be banned.

“I’m not wedded to the specific principle of confiscating guns,” bill sponsor state Rep. Mary Margaret Oliver (D-Decatur) told WXIA-TV. “I am open to an honest discussion – if I’m allowed to have an honest discussion – if there’s a better way.”

A semiautomatic center-fire rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has a folding or telescoping stock or a pistol grip would fall under the definition of “assault weapon” under the proposal.

It also would ban a semiautomatic rifle or pistol with a fixed magazine capable of holding more than 10 rounds.

Click here for the complete list of weapons covered by this measure.

The bill states, “Any person who possesses any assault weapon or large capacity magazine on July 1, 2016, shall have until October 31, 2016, to accomplish any of the following actions without any prosecution under the law:

(1) Modify such assault weapon or large capacity magazine to render it permanently inoperable or such that it is no longer an assault weapon or large capacity magazine; or

(2) Surrender such assault weapon or large capacity magazine to the Georgia Bureau of Investigation for destruction pursuant to this part.”

Noticing a trend yet?

 

[Weston White]

It also would ban a semiautomatic rifle or pistol with a fixed magazine capable of holding more than 10 rounds.

Renders the proposal DIW.

 

[timosman]

Renders the proposal DIW.

Doesn't California have the same law on the books already - https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/regs/genchar2 ?

 

[GunnyFreedom]

You don't have to worry about this any time soon.

One of the reasons I still prefer Reps over Dems, even though they are remarkably alike, the Reps are still largely allergic to gun control as of 2016. No way in hell a measure like this passes in a Republican dominated legislature.

If I were in GA, however, I'd still raise some hell with my Reps and Sens just to make sure they don't forget.

 

[Occam's Banana]

“I’m not wedded to the specific principle of confiscating guns,” bill sponsor state Rep. Mary Margaret Oliver (D-Decatur) told WXIA-TV. “I am open to an honest discussion – if I’m allowed to have an honest discussion – if there’s a better way.”

There is nothing "honest" about starting a "discussion" by enunciating a threat to forcibly seize (i.e., "confiscate") the property of your interlocutors. (There's a word for that - it's called "extortion.") It is especially repugnant to follow such a threat with the implication that allowing others to exercise their rights is something that ought to be up for "discussion." And to suggest so coyly that YOU may somehow be the one who is unreasonably not being "allowed" to do something is the most obnoxious sort of hypocrisy.

So I'm sorry, Mary Margaret Oliver, but you can take your "honest discussion," shove it right up your ass, and then pull the trigger on it 'til it goes "click-click-click" ...

 

[Weston White]

Doesn't California have the same law on the books already - https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/regs/genchar2 ?

No, semiautomatic pistols are still legal, though unless LEO or you had mags prior to the law, you can only have a mag that holds 10 rounds at the most.

 

[Suzanimal]

“I’m not wedded to the specific principle of confiscating guns,” bill sponsor state Rep. Mary Margaret Oliver (D-Decatur) told WXIA-TV. “I am open to an honest discussion – if I’m allowed to have an honest discussion – if there’s a better way.”

Not surprising she's from Decatur. This will never go anywhere.

NPR has published a handy state-by-state guide to gun-control laws, and if Georgia stands out, it’s for a lack of firearms regulations.

Georgia, after all, is the home of what is considered one of the most expansive pro-gun laws in the nation. It allows people with a license to carry a gun in bars, some government buildings and schools, and churches that have approved the practice. This law, enacted in 2014, has been described both as the nation’s strongest defense of Second Amendment rights and its most extreme promotion of gun violence.

In any event, here’s how Georgia lines up in the gun-control arena, according to NPR’s compilation:

Georgia does not require a license or permit to buy or own a firearm.
Georgia imposes no waiting period on firearms purchases.
Unlike 17 other states, Georgia doesn’t require background checks of gun buyers in private sales or gun shows.
Georgia not only doesn’t require firearms registration, it is one of eight states with laws that specifically forbid registration.
Georgia is one of 44 states that grant permits for carrying concealed weapons.
Georgia and 12 other states allow open carry of handguns by permit-holders. Six states – including neighbors South Carolina and Florida – ban the practice.
Unlike 13 other states, Georgia has no restriction on the open carry of long guns.
Georgia doesn’t bar people convicted of domestic violence from possessing guns, a restriction imposed by 20 states.

Do such laws reduce gun violence? That’s hard to say. Delaware, Illinois and the District of Columbia have some of the strictest gun laws in the nation. But, according to FBI statistics, but they also lead the nation in percentage of homicides committed with firearms (85 percent, 84 percent and 79 percent, respectively). On the other hand, Georgia, Mississippi and Indiana, with few gun restrictions, are right behind at 77 percent.

http://investigations.blog.ajc.com/2015/12/09/gun-control-in-georgia-not-so-much/

When the city of Kennesaw mandated that every home have a gun crime went down.

 

[nobody's_hero]

You don't have to worry about this any time soon.

One of the reasons I still prefer Reps over Dems, even though they are remarkably alike, the Reps are still largely allergic to gun control as of 2016. No way in hell a measure like this passes in a Republican dominated legislature.

If I were in GA, however, I'd still raise some hell with my Reps and Sens just to make sure they don't forget.

Atlanta is Georgia's Houston, though. Lots of liberal transplants and they just keep coming.

 

[Suzanimal]

Atlanta is Georgia's Houston, though. Lots of liberal transplants and they just keep coming.

That's the truth. When I lived in town, people were shocked to meet someone who was actually a native.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Atlanta is Georgia's Houston, though. Lots of liberal transplants and they just keep coming.

Half Backs from New York and New Jersey.

 

[timosman]

That's the truth. When I lived in town, people were shocked to meet someone who was actually a native.

No surprise here, a person in the United States is expected to move over 11 times in their lifetime.

 

[TheTexan]

Hopefully they have a database of who-owns-what. Makes it so much easier for when it comes time to confiscate.

 

[seapilot]

Bills like this are thrown out there by democrats with a gun control agenda to say they are trying to "do something" when talking with their constituents. The pro gun reps should keep pushing pro gun rights bills as much as possible. Better to be on offensive than defensive.

Georgia recently passed a bill that allows licensed CC on school grounds.

http://www.georgiapacking.org/bills.php

 

[Suzanimal]

Bills like this are thrown out there by democrats with a gun control agenda to say they are trying to "do something" when talking with their constituents. The pro gun reps should keep pushing pro gun rights bills as much as possible. Better to be on offensive than defensive.

Georgia recently passed a bill that allows licensed CC on school grounds.

http://www.georgiapacking.org/bills.php

And bars and churches. Wasn't it kind of them to allow business owners to decide if they want to allow guns inside?

 

[Suzanimal]

Ralston: House won’t consider assault weapons ban

House Speaker David Ralston said Friday that legislation to ban assault weapons in Georgia will not become law on his watch.

“As long as I am speaker of this House, I will not use any of our valuable time taking away the constitutional rights of our citizens,” Ralston told reporters at an impromptu news conference, making the end of the first five days of the 40-day legislative session.

On Thursday, religious and community leaders attended a Capitol press conference to voice support for legislation proposed by state Rep. Mary Margaret Oliver, D-Decatur, calling for a ban on A-K 47s, other assault weapons, large capacity magazines and armor-piercing bullets.

Speaker of the House David Ralston adjourns the session on Jan. 11, 2016.
Oliver said she hoped the bill, while controversial, could start an intellectual discussion about gun violence.

Ralston said the press conference “is about as much energy and time as you will see utilized” on the topic of an assault weapons ban.

“In the wake of [the mass shootings in] Paris and San Bernadino, [I can’t see] how someone believes that the solutions to some of these problems are to disarm law-abiding Georgians and Americans,” the speaker said.

Asked about Oliver’s claim that assault weapons are different than most weapons Americans use for personal protection or hunting, Ralston said: “It is taking the right to possess and bear arms.

“It’s not something we’re going to deal with in the House.”

To become law, a bill has to pass both the House and Senate.

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/ralston-house-wont-consider-assault-weapons-ban/np5tQ/