But he never said that, he just said he wasn't in the top tier. Thats entirely different than saying "unelectable".
George Will: Rand Paul not among "top-tier" 2016 candidates
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But he never said that, he just said he wasn't in the top tier. Thats entirely different than saying "unelectable".
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I also think Rand has a little more name recognition then the average single term senator.
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If George Will would have said "Rand Paul not among establishment's top tier 2016 candidates," then I would agree with him.
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As noted in the OP, according to George Will there is no establishment in the GOP. Will says it doesn't exist.
(And if you believe that, then I have some prime ocean-front property in Wyoming you might be interested in buying ...)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2d6LkOKAlw
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There's that phrase again. Make no mistake: it's deliberate.
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It's basically the same thing. He's not going to go all out in one interview. This is an orchestrated effort with several different talking heads predicting certain things while subtly reinforcing the notion that only the most powerful individual positions will have an opportunity to become president (there are only 50 governors). They know they can't control everyone, but getting people to abandon their hopes for anyone but a governor helps them narrow the range of people that could end up taking the office so that the campaign can be more easily manipulated in favor of THEIR candidate.
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George Will is talking out of his ass. He was being asked about the "top tier" for the GOP nomination. (It doesn't make any sense to talk about a "top tier" for the Presidential race itself, since that always amounts to just two people - the Republicans' nominee and the Democrats' nominee).
Since Nixon (1972 inclusive), 5 of the 8 different GOP nominees have NOT been governors (and 3 of the 7 different Presidents have NOT been governors). IOW: Going by recent history, not being a governor does not appear to be a particular problem when it comes to winning the GOP nomination (or even the Presidency).
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I guess he hasn't heard of John McCain in 2008.
He said neither the GOP establishment nor the Loch Ness Monster exist anymore. Perhaps he's old enough to have seen the LNM as a wee hatchling?
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I must have missed that quote entirely. I didn't hear George Will say that. Why is negative spin being spun here on this forum?
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You missed that quote because it isn't a quote. It's a statement describing Will's assessment of "top tier" candidates.
Will listed those (potential) candidates he considers "top tier" - and Rand Paul was NOT among them.
Thus, Rand Paul is not among George Will's "top tier" 2016 candidates. QED.
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It's spin. It's negative. The headline (intentionally) comes across as a quote.
He was giving his opinion that Governors are better as Presidential candidates. He gave his top three Governors.
Why not have one of these as a headline?
"George Will: Bobby Jindal not among "top-tier" 2016 candidates"
"George Will: Jeb Bush not among "top-tier" 2016 candidates"
"George Will: Nikki Haley not among "top-tier" 2016 candidates"
"George Will: Peter King not among "top-tier" 2016 candidates"
"George Will: Marco Rubio not among "top-tier" 2016 candidates"
"George Will: Bill Kristol not among "top-tier" 2016 candidates"
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But what does the spin really tell us? It tells us that Rand Paul really IS a top tier candidate. Otherwise there's no need to single him out in the headline
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No it doesn't. It never even occurred to me that the headline might be taken as a quote until you did so.
Punctuation means something. You would have a good point If the headline were:
George Will: "Rand Paul not among 'top tier' 2016 candidates"
instead of:
George Will: Rand Paul not among "top tier" 2016 candidates
He was asked for his three selections for "top tier" candidates. He answered: Christie, Pence & Walker.
Wallace then explicitly invited him to consider Rubio, Rand and Cruz. His response clearly discounted all three.
There would be nothing wrong with the Rubio version (or a similar headline for Cruz).
He was asked about them (and Rand - see above) - and he effectively nixed them all.
The others are irrelevant - he was not asked about any of them, nor did he mention any of them himself.
(But given his fetish for governors, a case might be made for the Jindal, Bush & Haley headlines, as well.)
And given that Rand is one of the primary focuses of interest around here, is it really any surprise that he is the one in the headline (rather than any of these others who might qualify)?
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HAHAHA "top tier: chris christie, scott walker, mike pence"!
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With so much media focused on trump there is no need for dirty tactics like they did with Ron, for Rand.
Rand will not be even close to the Nominee, the media will make sure of it.
If rand goes anywhere, the media will say "xxx person is surging" and that person will win the next state, and so on.
Its exactly what happened last time and will be no different.
We live in an oligarchy, 3 independent studies have proved it, Face it, get over it and stop fucking encouraging these statist.
230 years of organized politics. its over, it doesn't work. Please move on.
Rand will not be even close to the Nominee, the media will make sure of it.
If rand goes anywhere, the media will say "xxx person is surging" and that person will win the next state, and so on.
Its exactly what happened last time and will be no different.
We live in an oligarchy, 3 independent studies have proved it, Face it, get over it and stop fucking encouraging these statist.
230 years of organized politics. its over, it doesn't work. Please move on.
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