GENERAL ELECTION - Prioritized List of Liberty Candidates

[malkusm]

Coburn voted for the bailout, so I am against adding him to the list. Flake is much more of a DeMint-style Republican than a pro-liberty type, so he probably qualifies for your second tier after he wins his primary.

I knew there was a reason that I liked DeMint much more than Coburn. Coburn stays off.

I've added Duncan, Jones and Chaffetz in their respective positions (like I said, due to the formula that I've set up, they are near the bottom since they are likely to win and don't align with us all the way to begin with). Glad that the discussion is going on

 

[GunnyFreedom]

I should have the results of a REAL poll of my district on Monday. Not an 'internal' poll, or a poll from a softball pro-Rep pollster, but an actual commissioned poll from PPP.

 

[AJ Antimony]

Coburn voted for the bailout, so I am against adding him to the list. Flake is much more of a DeMint-style Republican than a pro-liberty type, so he probably qualifies for your second tier after he wins his primary.

Flake's definitely better than Demint

 

[Pauls' Revere]

**awesome**

bravo zulu!​

 

[WaltM]

Tom McClintock is a Liberty Candidate?

 

[low preference guy]

alternative thread title: I WANT TO MAKE A THREAD FULL OF COMPLAINTS AND BICKERING

 

[Galileo Galilei]

If you are looking for a true liberty candidate that is likely to win; Ed Thompson:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=256262

 

[Imperial]

No, and I discounted Mulvaney for that. I basically have 3 levels of "legitimacy" as a liberty candidate. Mulvaney is on par with DeMint, Haley, Huelskamp, and McClintock - he got 0 points in that department because of questions in that area. However, he is a demonstrated liberty candidate due to his voting record against spending in the South Carolina House of Representatives.

As for B.J. Lawson, I put him in the highest "legitimacy" category, on par with Ron Paul. He's in a tough district and is running against an entrenched incumbent....but I agree that Lawson and Gary Clift should get a lot of support around here.

If we could get a poll of Lawson's district, that would factor into his ranking and possibly move him up - the only thing keeping him down where he is in the list is the "electability" aspect.

I have a theory with Mulvaney. I think he is intentionally avoiding talking about foreign policy in order to keep support with establishment politico's. I am convinced he is intentionally avoiding the issue; one interview I saw he completely side-stepped talking about specifics, and his campaign website is completely silent in this area. There would be no reason for this if he was a traditional Republican, as being outright pro-war would not hurt him in that area. On the other hand, I think the national party would frown at supporting an anti-war candidate.

Then again, there is the chance he could be bottling up his opinions to not push liberals into Spratt's camp with his rhetoric. But either one is plausible.

 

[Imperial]

There is also an efficient way to appease those who are displeased with this placement. Why not make one list on electability and then a second list on issues? For example, I would count Delia Lopez as being a complete non-starter as far as electability is concerned, but on issues she would probably score much higher than a McClintock or Flake. Then it would be much easier to approach a list combining the two.

 

[malkusm]

I should have the results of a REAL poll of my district on Monday. Not an 'internal' poll, or a poll from a softball pro-Rep pollster, but an actual commissioned poll from PPP.

Yep - and as I understand it, you'll likely be sharing the top line on the forums? If so I'll factor in those results. As it stands, if you get within 15 points or so you'll move up.

Tom McClintock is a Liberty Candidate?

I put him in the third group as far as "legitimacy" is concerned. He is still considered a "liberty" candidate by sites like www.libertyslate.com for example, and was supported by members here in 2008. Again, not perfect, he's more like a DeMint, etc. As such, he's down near the bottom.

alternative thread title: I WANT TO MAKE A THREAD FULL OF COMPLAINTS AND BICKERING

Alternative username: I LIKE TO MAKE UNPRODUCTIVE COMMENTS TO SEE IF I CAN STIR SHIT UP

 

[malkusm]

If you are looking for a true liberty candidate that is likely to win; Ed Thompson:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=256262

Excellent! I've only included candidates here who have already made it through their primary (which is why Flake is not listed, among others). When the primary draws closer, I'll be sure to keep him in mind for my primary thread: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=245428

There is also an efficient way to appease those who are displeased with this placement. Why not make one list on electability and then a second list on issues? For example, I would count Delia Lopez as being a complete non-starter as far as electability is concerned, but on issues she would probably score much higher than a McClintock or Flake. Then it would be much easier to approach a list combining the two.

True, but that's why I went ahead and threw my "tiers" up in one of my posts on this thread. http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=2830212&postcount=7

I think that it's important to have something comprehensive that factors in both criteria. Obviously, not everyone is going to agree with my list. I tried to make it as objective as possible, by utilizing a standard formula that is applied to all of the candidates rather than just picking the names I liked.

As a side note, if anyone disagrees with my "tiers," feel free to make your case. As I said, I made those distinctions based on the information I had available on their stances on foreign policy, monetary policy, and civil liberties.

 

[Galileo Galilei]

Excellent! I've only included candidates here who have already made it through their primary (which is why Flake is not listed, among others). When the primary draws closer, I'll be sure to keep him in mind for my primary thread: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=245428

Excellent. Ed has an uncontested primary in September. Another strong candidate from Wisconsin is Terri McCormick. She is a former state legislature running for congress. She is backed by members of the Wisconsin Libertarian Party and was a guest on Freed Watch with the Judge. She has a very winnable race.

 

[CaseyJones]

bump

 

[libertybrewcity]

Why is Demint up there? He voted for the wars and his race is not competitive at all. The last rasmussen poll had him up by about 40-some points. I think Lee should be moved up and Demint replaced by Angle.

 

[malkusm]

Why is Demint up there? He voted for the wars and his race is not competitive at all. The last rasmussen poll had him up by about 40-some points. I think Lee should be moved up and Demint replaced by Angle.

Actually, I reviewed my spreadhseet and I made a mistake - I forgot to include that DeMint is an incumbent, which knocks him down. I'll adjust accordingly. Thanks!

 

[malkusm]

Gunny's poll numbers moved him up to 6th

I have a ton of state candidates to add that I was unaware of....I just tapped into the Republican Liberty Caucus endorsements page, and there are a lot of candidates there.

 

[One Last Battle!]

DeMint isn't our problem. Seriously, I can't think of a way for "Random guy off the street" Alvin Green to beat him. At any rate, his policies are kinda iffy. He has enough Neo-Con supporters and generic Republicans to help him out, it is a waste for us to use resources helping him.

Angle is superb on Fiscal issues, but her foreign policy and social issues aren't so hot. Regardless, she is DEFINITELY better than the alternative, so she belongs on this list (as I recall, we wanted Danny Tarkanian to win, though I don't remember why).

John Dennis is GREAT but...

>D-35

HOLY SHIT MAN

 

[malkusm]

DeMint isn't our problem. Seriously, I can't think of a way for "Random guy off the street" Alvin Green to beat him. At any rate, his policies are kinda iffy. He has enough Neo-Con supporters and generic Republicans to help him out, it is a waste for us to use resources helping him.

Angle is superb on Fiscal issues, but her foreign policy and social issues aren't so hot. Regardless, she is DEFINITELY better than the alternative, so she belongs on this list (as I recall, we wanted Danny Tarkanian to win, though I don't remember why).

John Dennis is GREAT but...

>D-35

HOLY SHIT MAN

Added Angle (begrudgingly), since this is probably about the 4th request on that front.

 

[Galileo Galilei]

did Ron Paul endorse Angle?

 

[libertybrewcity]

Added Angle (begrudgingly), since this is probably about the 4th request on that front.

Sharron Angle is much more of a liberty candidate than many of the incumbent congressmen you have up there. Her positions are closer to Ron Paul than say, Demint. You didn't have to put her at 2nd on the list if you don't think her candidacy is a high priority.