Gay nightclub stokes backlash for sign asserting two biological genders: 'Transphobic'

[jmdrake]

https://www.foxnews.com/world/gay-n...-asserting-two-biological-genders-transphobic

A gay nightclub in New Zealand stoked backlash for displaying a sign suggesting that gender is inextricable with biology and that there are only two of them.

CRUZ, the only gay bar in Christchurch, New Zealand, put a sign outside their business that says "XY = Male XX = Female," which prompted outrage from some social media users who accused the establishment of transphobia.

"Cruz is a transphobic bar in New Zealand," one user wrote. "Fixed that for you."

The business also took to Facebook to post a picture of the sign with a caption that read, "Women are a biological reality."

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CRUZ, the only gay bar in Christchurch, put a sign outside their business that says "XY = Male XX = Female."
CRUZ, the only gay bar in Christchurch, put a sign outside their business that says "XY = Male XX = Female." (CREDIT: FACEBOOK/CRUZ)

Responding to a Facebook user who was angered by that sentiment, CRUZ's official Twitter account claimed that many gay and lesbian people are frightened of speaking out against the transgender movement.

"nfortunately many gay and lesbian targeted businesses are afraid to call this out for what it is," the club wrote. "That’s how things came to get as far as they have with the trans madness!"

CRUZ has been accused of transphobia before, according to New Zealand outlet Stuff. In 2019, they made headlines when they put out a sign that read, "To avoid confusion, our staff do not have vaginas and are known as barmen."

LGBT activists and their supporters rally in support of transgender people on the steps of New York City Hall, Oct. 24, 2018 in New York City.
LGBT activists and their supporters rally in support of transgender people on the steps of New York City Hall, Oct. 24, 2018 in New York City. (Photo by Drew Angerer/Getty Images)

As with their most recent sign, the club posted a picture of it on Facebook and wrote, "Life gets so confusing. At CRUZ we do our bit to try and keep things simple." Hundreds responded to the 2019 post by accusing the bar of discriminating against lesbians and transgender people.


Jennifer Shields, a trans advocate in Christchurch, told the outlet at the time that the sign "rests in transphobia."

"​The sign itself and Cruz’s attitude is one that rests in transphobia, but also is very much in opposition to these ideas of inclusion and acceptance that are quite critical to our community and New Zealand in general," she said.


The page's administrator responded to many of the negative comments in 2019, including one response that said, "It's a great shame the male gay scene got hijacked by the extremist factions, but I suppose you only have to look at the Auckland Pride fiasco to see where it all ends up."
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And [MENTION=3169]Anti Federalist[/MENTION], this is why my issue isn't with individuals in the lgbtq+ community. Some don't agree with what's being done in their name.

 

[CaptUSA]

This highlights an important nuance in this whole discussion. There are MANY gay people who are upset by this whole trans movement. Many people think that the sexual confusion that is trigger by realizing you're gay is being hijacked by people who want other people to cut off their genitalia. "No, Bruce, you're not a girl - you're just gay. You need to comes to terms with it."

Even worse, there's a large portion of the straight population that has some sort of sexual confusion as they mature into adulthood. Instead of helping those people deal with that confusion, these trans-activists are telling them they need to disfigure themselves to get some relief. That almost NEVER brings anyone any sort of relief.

 

[Anti Federalist]

And @Anti Federalist, this is why my issue isn't with individuals in the lgbtq+ community. Some don't agree with what's being done in their name.

[MENTION=849]jmdrake[/MENTION]

Perhaps not...but they get no pass from me.

They opened up this box of horrors, not me.

Unless they repent and actively work to stuff these Marxist freaks back into whatever hellhole they crawled out of, I regard them as being all in one and working toward the same goals, that is, at this point in the game, a complete and total rejection of absolute and observable truth, declaring victory over my mind by breaking into accepting that rejection.

Oh yes, and on personal level, a secondary goal of the normalization of pre pubescent sexual encounters with grown people and "snuff", the sexualized torture and killing of children for sexual gratification.

And they need to knock this shit off as well, because that does not look like a bunch of transqueeers in that video.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

This highlights an important nuance in this whole discussion. There are MANY gay people who are upset by this whole trans movement. Many people think that the sexual confusion that is trigger by realizing you're gay is being hijacked by people who want other people to cut off their genitalia. "No, Bruce, you're not a girl - you're just gay. You need to comes to terms with it."

Even worse, there's a large portion of the straight population that has some sort of sexual confusion as they mature into adulthood. Instead of helping those people deal with that confusion, these trans-activists are telling them they need to disfigure themselves to get some relief. That almost NEVER brings anyone any sort of relief.

Agree. There is a lot of nuance lost in our current political environment. There are a ton of subcultures, and they don't always get along. For example, there are gay men, lesbian women, drag queens, trans people, and just plain freaks that belong at a circus. These groupings have always existed. I knew a guy in college that came out as gay, but he couldn't stand drag or drag performers. They didn't all see themselves as one group.

What we have now is two things at play.

The Marxist political agenda that divides and creates new victim classes, then they try to put various groups together in solidarity against an enemy. So they have done their best to merge everything together under one heading. What used to be LGB, became LGBT, then LGBTQ, and now we have LGBTQIA+.

They used the same tactic with "racism". What might have once been an issue for African Americans, now has to include every other group possible (with an acronym of course: BIPOC), with the glaring exception of straight white men, who are painted as the oppressor and enemy.

So what the Marxists are doing now is trotting out the circus freaks to create as much spectacle and outrage as possible. Traditional drag performers would probably be appalled at what is being pushed. And then they try to make it a shared issue of oppression for everyone and anyone they can throw under their LGBTQIA+ umbrella.

Not everyone who might fit into their imaginary political grouping wants to be under that umbrella with the circus freaks. And they want as much as possible to drag impressionable children under that umbrella, which leads to the second major cause of this insanity.

The second thing at play is the medical-healthcare industrial complex. Trans is a huge money maker for them. Modern health care services, medical procedures and drugs (imagine that) can be sold. Government contracts can be had. And the more customers, the better for them.

Both agendas overlap because they both want more customers/victims.

 

[jmdrake]

[MENTION=849]jmdrake[/MENTION]

Perhaps not...but they get no pass from me.

They opened up this box of horrors, not me.

Unless they repent and actively work to stuff these Marxist freaks back into whatever hellhole they crawled out of, I regard them as being all in one and working toward the same goals, that is, at this point in the game, a complete and total rejection of absolute and observable truth, declaring victory over my mind by breaking into accepting that rejection.

Oh yes, and on personal level, a secondary goal of the normalization of pre pubescent sexual encounters with grown people and "snuff", the sexualized torture and killing of children for sexual gratification.

And they need to knock this $#@! off as well, because that does not look like a bunch of transqueeers in that video.

It's not whether they're gay or trans or bi. It's whether people are minding their own business or not. There are trans that mind their own business and there are trans groomers. And straight groomers are just as bad. I cancelled my Netflix account when "Cuties" came out.



And here's the female bisexual vlogger ShoeOnHead destroying cuties.



Compare that to "culture war hero" Donald Trump saying he bought Miss Teen USA so he could walk in on the girls, some underage, while they were getting undressed.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ndressed-backstage-howard-stern-a7357866.html

So...if you cross that line you don't get a pass from me. Straight or gay. Republican or Democrat.

 

[dannno]

Compare that to "culture war hero" Donald Trump saying he bought Miss Teen USA so he could walk in on the girls, some underage, while they were getting undressed.

You should adjust your wording slightly, that's not what he said.. he bought it as an investment, he claimed that was a "perk" of owning the investment.

One named woman complained about it as an adult, several other unnamed complainants claimed they were underage.

 

[jmdrake]

You should adjust your wording slightly, that's not what he said.. he bought it as an investment, he claimed that was a "perk" of owning the investment.

One named woman complained about it as an adult, several other unnamed complainants claimed they were underage.

Okay. Point taken. It's still wrong.

 

[dannno]

Okay. Point taken. It's still wrong.

Ya, not exactly the crime of the century. These are women who are showing off their almost naked bodies to the entire world for money and fame. He probably should have stayed out of the locker room of the underage girls, if he did in fact do that, but for the adults I don't really see that it's a big deal.. compared to say, if you were the owner of LA Fitness and walked into the locker room of women changing who just want to go workout.

I wouldn't be surprised if some of the adult women might have taken longer to change while he was in there so that Trump could maybe see them and they could become more famous.

 

[jmdrake]

Ya, not exactly the crime of the century. These are women who are showing off their almost naked bodies to the entire world for money and fame. He probably should have stayed out of the locker room of the underage girls, if he did in fact do that, but for the adults I don't really see that it's a big deal.. compared to say, if you were the owner of LA Fitness and walked into the locker room of women changing who just want to go workout.

I wouldn't be surprised if some of the adult women might have taken longer to change while he was in there so that Trump could maybe see them and they could become more famous.

Probably should have stayed out of the locker room of the underage girls? How about definitely should have! Anyone who doesn't understand that has a broken moral clock. And it's a crime and it should be. The gay choir [MENTION=3169]Anti Federalist[/MENTION] posted about didn't commit a crime at all. I think what they did was wrong absolutely had helped pave the was for our current toxic environment. But it's not a crime. When your defense of someone becomes what they did was "not exactly the crime of the century" and the crime they're being accused of is purposefully walking in on undressed children and calling that a "perk" you need to rethink your priorities.

 

[dannno]

Probably should have stayed out of the locker room of the underage girls? How about definitely should have! Anyone who doesn't understand that has a broken moral clock. And it's a crime and it should be. The gay choir @Anti Federalist posted about didn't commit a crime at all. I think what they did was wrong absolutely had helped pave the was for our current toxic environment. But it's not a crime. When your defense of someone becomes what they did was "not exactly the crime of the century" and the crime they're being accused of is purposefully walking in on undressed children and calling that a "perk" you need to rethink your priorities.

I said probably as it's alleged.