Gates Foundation makes poop a priority, puts toilet innovation front and center

[pcosmar]

Uh, isn't this a good thing? A successful businessman granting private money to help the world?

Do you really think so? Gates is about Population reduction and Eugenics.
Just another Elitist..

I would not trust him with shit.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

Uh, isn't this a good thing? A successful businessman granting private money to help the world? Yes, poop is everywhere, but it DOES spread diseases in 3rd world countries (you know, where these are intended to be used to start, as I understand it). Why are you all putting down a drive to innovate using, again, PRIVATE grant money?

And you ask how people in these countries will afford it? Again, that's the point of the foundation... they give it to them. When people have the ability to be healthier and safer, it is MUCH easier for them to be more productive, educated, and aware of their political situation. This is sure a better way of spreading the ideas of freedom than guns and bombs are.

I think you missed the part where it wasn't private money. I've told you how I feel about it. It just strikes me the wrong way.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

I guess this project is about helping poor people ( probably Africa ) get better access to sanitation so here is my project for the competition?

Here it is.

It is based on reliable technology that has been tested for the past 2000 years.2 drunken sailors could make one of this in half a day.It could take longer but you could even make one of this without using any tools and it will cost you nothing but 1 or 2 meals for the duration it needs to be completed.

When it breaks it takes just 30 minutes to take apart the outer walls,and fill the hole with some dirt ( 100% Eco-friendly ) and another few hours to make a new one.

Very economical. Love it.

 

[TonySutton]

This problem was solved years ago for a lot less money.



http://humanurehandbook.com/

 

[brooks009]

Do you really think so? Gates is about Population reduction and Eugenics.

You make it sound like that's a bad thing.

 

[olehounddog]

Looks like he's making somethin simple, complicated. Ive been considering one of these.

http://www.biolet.com/
http://www.sun-mar.com/prod_self.html
http://www.envirolet.com/models.html

 

[Dr.3D]

You make it sound like that's a bad thing.

It is when it's preconceived genocide or genocide by stealth.

 

[IDefendThePlatform]

Cholera, hepatitis A and a bunch of other nasty diseases get spread this way on a daily basis. Kudos to the gates foundation for stepping up to try to solve a major public health problem.

Also I think most of the gains in life expectancy in the developed world over the last couple centuries have been due to improved santitation more than any other factor, so it's a pretty big deal.

 

[osan]

What a load of crap.

 

[juleswin]

I guess this project is about helping poor people ( probably Africa ) get better access to sanitation so here is my project for the competition

Here it is.

It is based on reliable technology that has been tested for the past 2000 years.2 drunken sailors could make one of this in half a day.It could take longer but you could even make one of this without using any tools and it will cost you nothing but 1 or 2 meals for the duration it needs to be completed.

When it breaks it takes just 30 minutes to take apart the outer walls,and fill the hole with some dirt ( 100% Eco-friendly ) and another few hours to make a new one.

My guess is if that is the solution, then he wouldn't be telling Africans or anyone for that matter anything new. Humans have always dug a hole to dispose and conceal their fesses. In my village in Nigeria(country side) where my grandparents lived, they had pit toilets where people relieved themselves. It is like the out house but with a much bigger capacity. You defecate in it and it is absorbed into the ground, very environmental friendly, more economical and very low maintenance.

A few down side is that you cannot teach a baby potty training with it and it kinda smells even when the sit is closed. My opinion on Gates is that he should get out of Africa with his dangerous ideas (mosquitoes engineered vaccine dispensers), he claims to have spent billions and billions of dollars in Africa but there's really nothing to show for it. My guess is that all this charitable endevours is his way him and his other rich friends get away with paying lower and lower taxes. Dont get me wrong, I want low taxes but I want it for everyone and not just for the elites with high powered accountants to outsmart the tax laws

 

[NoOneButPaul]

I thought Gates was running the world why is he talking toilets?

 

[ZenBowman]

Uh, isn't this a good thing? A successful businessman granting private money to help the world? Yes, poop is everywhere, but it DOES spread diseases in 3rd world countries (you know, where these are intended to be used to start, as I understand it). Why are you all putting down a drive to innovate using, again, PRIVATE grant money?

And you ask how people in these countries will afford it? Again, that's the point of the foundation... they give it to them. When people have the ability to be healthier and safer, it is MUCH easier for them to be more productive, educated, and aware of their political situation. This is sure a better way of spreading the ideas of freedom than guns and bombs are.

Agreed.

Kudos to Bill G, haters gonna hate.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Check out the "Squatty Potty."


I found this on Mark Sisson's resource page.



http://www.squattypotty.com/



About the stupidest damn product i've ever seen. Get a damn step stool at the Dollar Store if you want to pretend like you're shittin' in the woods.....

Actually, this really works. We have a thread around here called "poopin' 2.0" about this very subject.

 

[brooks009]

Actually, this really works. We have a thread around here called "poopin' 2.0" about this very subject.

I have not read that thread but yeah we poop wrong in the USA. You should squat to poop.

 

[IDefendThePlatform]

Humans have always dug a hole to dispose and conceal their fesses. In my village in Nigeria(country side) where my grandparents lived, they had pit toilets where people relieved themselves. It is like the out house but with a much bigger capacity. You defecate in it and it is absorbed into the ground, very environmental friendly, more economical and very low maintenance.

I'm sure outhouses and holes work well in some areas, but the problem is when untreated human waste gets into water supplies (runoff from rain, or people crapping near lakes or streams) then diseases spread through the untreated water. I'm pretty sure the Gates foundation is looking for a solution that sterilizes or removes the diseases cheaply and conveniently.

 

[jmdrake]

I guess this project is about helping poor people ( probably Africa ) get better access to sanitation so here is my project for the competition

Here it is.

It is based on reliable technology that has been tested for the past 2000 years.2 drunken sailors could make one of this in half a day.It could take longer but you could even make one of this without using any tools and it will cost you nothing but 1 or 2 meals for the duration it needs to be completed.

When it breaks it takes just 30 minutes to take apart the outer walls,and fill the hole with some dirt ( 100% Eco-friendly ) and another few hours to make a new one.

And Biblically sanctioned.

Deu 23:12-14 NET You are to have a place outside the camp to serve as a latrine. [v. 13] You must have a spade among your other equipment and when you relieve yourself outside you must dig a hole with the spade and then turn and cover your excrement. [v. 14] For the LORD your God walks about in the middle of your camp to deliver you and defeat your enemies for you. Therefore your camp should be holy, so that he does not see anything indecent among you and turn away from you.

Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Does_the_bible_tell_you_how_to_go_to_the_toilet#ixzz23kAJlxfW

 

[jonhowe]

I think you missed the part where it wasn't private money.

Care to point it out to me then? I've read that the grants were from the foundation...

 

[pcosmar]

I'm sure outhouses and holes work well in some areas, but the problem is when untreated human waste gets into water supplies (runoff from rain, or people crapping near lakes or streams) then diseases spread through the untreated water. I'm pretty sure the Gates foundation is looking for a solution that sterilizes or removes the diseases cheaply and conveniently.

Actually,, that is more due to cities and settlements pumping raw sewage into the water supply..
And in those areas of the world ,, to dead bodies and mass graves.
Sewage in the ground does not have that problem.

Perhaps they can just build decent sewage treatment if they wish,,
Gates has actually been focused in other directions.. like population control.
so color me skeptical.

 

[jonhowe]

Gates has actually been focused in other directions.. like population control.
so color me skeptical.

You do realize that the population cannot continue to grow forever, right? It doesn't work that way. Gates isn't into "controlling" it, but he is investing in ways to avoid overpopulation using seemingly common sense means. Healthy, educated, and free people tend to have fewer children. Solution: get more people educated, healthy, and free.

Not to say I agree with gates on everything, but to paint him as bent on genocide is 100% off.

 

[pcosmar]

You do realize that the population cannot continue to grow forever, right? It doesn't work that way. Gates isn't into "controlling" it, but he is investing in ways to avoid overpopulation using seemingly common sense means. Healthy, educated, and free people tend to have fewer children. Solution: get more people educated, healthy, and free.

Not to say I agree with gates on everything, but to paint him as bent on genocide is 100% off.

Did I use the word genocide?
NO,, I DID NOT (Nice try though)

This July, we will be celebrating the centennial anniversary of London's First International Eugenics Conference of 1912. One century later, on July 11, 2012, the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation (the largest private foundation in the world) and the British government will co-host a new London conference on eugenics with global coalition partners such as American abortion chain Planned Parenthood, British abortion chain Marie Stopes International, and the United Nations Populations Fund (UNFPA).

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/06/melinda_gates_talks_eugenics.html#ixzz23l9Ivwhh

Oh,,and in case you are wondering,, there is much more from many other sources.