GasLand: Fracking and The Halliburton Exemption

[Kelly.]

Also, since when do we trust everything elected offficials tell us? Yeah, they NEVER have any conflicts of interest...

when it fits your agenda, duh


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if it was me, i would refuse to allow anyone to inject any "proprietary fluid" into my ground water.
why not use distilled water to fract? or are harm chemicals the only answer?

i especially like all the people who refer to others are environmental terrorists. it really gets your point across

 

[angelatc]

if it was me, i would refuse to allow anyone to inject any "proprietary fluid" into my ground water.
why not use distilled water to fract? or are harm chemicals the only answer?

i especially like all the people who refer to others are environmental terrorists. it really gets your point across

Well, rest assured that the more regulations that you allow, the more harmful the chemicals will be. Progress only happens when we allow people and industry to forge ahead. Developing 18 different ways to extract the fuel will eventually allow us a much better and safer process than having a group of government central planners sit down with the energy executives to design a plan that mandates which systems and chemicals are required.

That's how we succeeded as a young country. Now that we're getting older, it seems that we do nothing but sit around and worry that somebody else isn't taking proper care of us.

 

[Bergie Bergeron]

Gasland is so biased, even Fox News anchor are not this biased.

 

[dannno]

Well, rest assured that the more regulations that you allow, the more harmful the chemicals will be. Progress only happens when we allow people and industry to forge ahead. Developing 18 different ways to extract the fuel will eventually allow us a much better and safer process than having a group of government central planners sit down with the energy executives to design a plan that mandates which systems and chemicals are required.

That's how we succeeded as a young country. Now that we're getting older, it seems that we do nothing but sit around and worry that somebody else isn't taking proper care of us.

It's not about more regulations, in this case the EPA is protecting these companies and keeping their processes secret. Some how I doubt the EPA is looking out for private property owners who depend on the watersheds that are being damaged.

How would you feel if your watershed was being depleted or polluted so that they could drill, and then the EPA kept the information that you needed to determine if there may be any damages a secret?

 

[Zatch]

 

[dannno]

Gasland is so biased, even Fox News anchor are not this biased.

That doesn't mean private property rights are being properly protected.

 

[Kelly.]

who owns the ground water that is [potentially] being polluted?

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Gasland is propaganda

The American Petroleum Institute also points out that in Colorado, where the flaming faucets were filmed, “the Colorado Oil and Gas Conservation Commission devoted significant staff and financial resources to thoroughly investigate these cases, and specifically excluded natural gas drilling as a cause of flammable water in each. The commission determined that, in reality, the source was naturally occurring methane.”

The Reason video is good, but it contradicts your earlier post. The Reason video says that gas does get into drinking water from drilling due to incompetence and deviations from best practices. Like Oil wells, when everything goes perfectly, there are few "leaks". When it doesn't go well, you have disasters like Deepwater Horizon, which was due to intentional incompetence and corner-cutting.

 

[dannno]

who owns the ground water that is [potentially] being polluted?

Everybody who has a well or access to it downstream. That's why I'm not a big fan of allowing people to manipulate watersheds, even if it's on their own property.

 

[angelatc]

who owns the ground water that is [potentially] being polluted?

Answer - after 6o years, there's not a single case of the process contaminating a single source of groundwater. But that's not good enough, because we're an old country now. We can't take chances - somebody might get hurt.

 

[Kelly.]

Answer - after 6o years, there's not a single case of the process contaminating a single source of groundwater. But that's not good enough, because we're an old country now. We can't take chances - somebody might get hurt.

im confused, who owns the water we are talking about here?

 

[dannno]

Answer - after 6o years, there's not a single case of the process contaminating a single source of groundwater. But that's not good enough, because we're an old country now. We can't take chances - somebody might get hurt.

How can we tell if there has been contamination if we don't know what they are contaminating it with?

Why the secrecy and all the EPA involvement if everything is apparently kosher? Do you trust the EPA?

 

[DamianTV]

Our biggest problem comes from the people thinking that Politicians will solve the problems, when the politicians are the ones that created the problems to begin with.

*cough* Cheney / Halliburton Loophole

 

[angelatc]

im confused, who owns the water we are talking about here?

Trick question! There's no contaminated water to be owned, you see.

 

[angelatc]

How can we tell if there has been contamination if we don't know what they are contaminating it with?

Why the secrecy and all the EPA involvement if everything is apparently kosher? Do you trust the EPA?

I believe in science. I believe that the environmentalists would have their reports on the front page of the NYT if the science supported their allegations.

 

[Kelly.]

Trick question! There's no contaminated water to be owned, you see.

of course, a corporation would never pollute, even if it meant higher operating costs.

 

[angelatc]

of course, a corporation would never pollute, even if it meant higher operating costs.

If they were polluting, the water would be contaminated, silly!

 

[Kelly.]

of course, pollution is ALWAYS localized