Gary Johnson Gary Johnson should've ran for Senate vs. President (POLL)

[Bastiat's The Law]

What office should've Gary ran for?

 

[muzzled dogg]

just... why???

 

[TheTexan]

Senator of New Mexico? He should have ran for Senator of Get-a-Fucking-Clue

 

[Rocco]

He took all of the credibility that came with being a 2 term governor and destroyed it when he joined the Libertarian Party. Had he ran for New Mexico senate after he dropped out of the GOP primary, I have no doubt our grassroots would have gotten behind him 100% and he would have had an outstanding chance of winning. Instead he's doing everything he can to ruin his future in politics.

 

[cajuncocoa]

What office should've Gary ran for?

The best way to make sure a libertarian candidate NEVER wins is to talk people out of voting for them.

I could barely make it through that video; her mannerisms are annoying !

 

[cheapseats]

What part of LIBERTY eludes "libertarian leaning" Republicans who imagine they have a SAY-SO in how individuals "should" lead their lives?

 

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He took all of the credibility that came with being a 2 term governor and destroyed it when he joined the Libertarian Party.

Lean to the left, lean to the right, stand up, sit down, FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT! Gooooooo REPUBLICANS!!

Had he ran for New Mexico senate after he dropped out of the GOP primary, I have no doubt our grassroots would have gotten behind him 100% and he would have had an outstanding chance of winning.

So he could start PLAYING POLITICS = CUTTING DEALS like Rand Paul, so we could "win" MORE POWER to elect more Game Players?

Instead he's doing everything he can to ruin his future in politics.

Are you one of the Ron Paul Fans who believes it is too soon to call the Republican nomination a DONE DEAL, despite Ron Paul's senator son last month endorsing MITT ROMNEY...his beloved father's sole opponent and obstacle to the title?

Regardless, November is soon enough to proclaim Gary Johnson's third-party bid a failure, dontcha think?

Ron Paul Die Hards, OF ALL PEOPLE, should appreciate that GETTING ONTO THE BALLOT in an embarrassingly rigged system is already a measure of success. DONE DEAL on that, for Gary Johnson.

 

[Rocco]

Lean to the left, lean to the right, stand up, sit down, FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT! Gooooooo REPUBLICANS!!

No, not fight fight go republicans, it's fight fight get liberty oriented people in positions of power. Having one more of 100 US senators gets us infinitely closer to that goal then garnering less than 5% in a general election.

So he could start PLAYING POLITICS = CUTTING DEALS like Rand Paul, so we could "win" MORE POWER to elect more Game Players?

I'm sorry, maybe I was confused but I thought the goal was to get liberty politicians in power. If you think Gary Johnson is going to cut a deal you dislike as a US Senator then you probably shouldn't consider voting for him for president either. But yes, the goal is to WIN and if your goal is not to win positions of power then you are of no help towards our goal.

Are you one of the Ron Paul Fans who believes it is too soon to call the Republican nomination a DONE DEAL . . . despite Ron Paul's senator son last month endorsing MITT ROMNEY, his beloved father's sole opponent and obstacle to the title?

No, I am not, and I think those who are tend to be completely delusional.

Regardless, November is quite soon enough to proclaim Gary Johnson's third-party be a failure, dontcha think?

Look at his amateurish ads, look at his complete lack of money, look at his complete lack of an organization, and finally look at, by virtue of the utter failure of these basic campaign needs, how he has thoroughly failed to capitalize on the liberty movement's progress. I think we could get a team of RPF folks together who could run ten times the campaign he's running.

Ron Paul Die Hards, OF ALL PEOPLE, should appreciate that GETTING ONTO THE DAMN BALLOT is its own achievement. DONE DEAL on that, for Gary Johnson.

Every libertarian since 1976 has been on the ballot, it's not a massive accomplishment.

 

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No, not fight fight go republicans, it's fight fight get liberty oriented people in positions of power. Having one more of 100 US senators gets us infinitely closer to that goal then garnering less than 5% in a general election.

GETTING GARY JOHNSON INTO THE DEBATES will do more for the Liberty Moovement with which I am aligned than one more ranking Official who rolls like Rand Paul.

I'm sorry, maybe I was confused but I thought the goal was to get liberty politicians in power.

Power abidingly corrupts. I'm sorry, too.

If you think Gary Johnson is going to cut a deal you dislike as a US Senator...

I have ZERO concerns about Gary Johnson PLAYING POLITICS as a Senator. Gary Johnson is not running for Senator. Upon HIS election to the Senate, RAND PAUL is playing politics that I don't like. I would RATHER see Gary Johnson roll the dice on a third-party run than FALL IN LINE like Rand.

But yes, the goal is to WIN...

Win . . . what?

Define WIN. Define WHAT.

If your goal is not to win positions of power then you are of no help towards our goal.

If yer not with us, yer with the Terrerists?

No, I am not, and I think those who are tend to be completely delusional.

Mightn't their delusion be NOT the harmless variety? Mightn't Masterminds be giving that pesky "enthusiastic base" of Ron Paul's enough rope to hang themselves AND Rand Paul?

Look at his amateurish ads,

Y'know what's enjoyed a LOT of success over the years? The idiotically simple yellow smiley face. I found it annoying from the get-go, like i's dotted with circles, but it's popularity soared without my approval. Same thing happened with other things. Rap, for instance.

It is famously and rightly held that "there is no accounting for taste."

 

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...look at his complete lack of money...

It is no more possible to "get the money out of politics" by throwing money at the Broken System than it is possible to spend our way out of Debt.

If the "Republican Party Gains" crowd doesn't recognize MONEY IN POLITICS as a principle problem and GETTING MONEY OUT OF POLITICS as a principle goal, we definitely do NOT share core principles/goals.

 

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...look at his complete lack of an organization...

Gary Johnson grew his entrepreneurial one-man handyman "operation" into one of the largest construction companies in New Mexico . . . BEFORE being elected and reelected as a "red" Governor of a "blue" state . . . who inherited a deficit, balanced the budget, and bequeathed a surplus. A SURPLUS...*sigh*

Be worried about Privatized Prisons, be VERY worried. But fret NOT about Gary Johnson's organizational skillz.

 

[Rocco]

My goal is to get our troops home, to end the federal reserve, to abolish the overbearing regulatory state, to stop the reckless taxation and give people their civil liberties back. This is not a matter of ideology, this is a matter of what is effective and what is not effective. The libertarian party has proven itself completely ineffective, while the GOP strategy has proven extremely effective.

 

[Rocco]

Gary Johnson on private prisons

 

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...and finally look at, by virtue of the utter failure of these basic campaign needs, how he has thoroughly failed to capitalize on the liberty movement's progress...

If he were "capitalizing on the Moovement's progress", he'd be vilified for THAT.

It was NOT Gary Johnson's doing that Ron Paul elected to NOT snag the Libertarian Party nomination that was HIS FOR THE ASKING. It is NOT Gary Johnson's fault if Ron Paul's fork-in-the-highway gambit fails. Gary Johnson re-throwing his hat in the ring as the elusive third-party contender will NOT feature among the top-ten reasons that Ron Paul did NOT secure the Republican nomination.

(IF Ron Paul doesn't get the GOP nod. I BELIEVE in miracles, I'm OPEN to them...I "just" don't plan or BANK on them.)

 

[Rocco]

I disagree, it is not our job to support every lost cause libertarian party candidacy that comes by. Gary Johnson's decision to run for president as a libertarian was the most idiotic move he could have possibly made for his political career, and that is why the liberty movement is not supporting him en masse

If he were "capitalizing on the Moovement's progress, he'd be vilified for THAT.

It is NOT Gary Johnson's doing or fault that Ron Paul elected NOT to grasp the Libertarian Party nomination that was HIS FOR THE ASKING.

 

[cheapseats]

...while the GOP strategy has proven extremely effective.

Your ground conditions must vary greatly from mine.

You still flying?

 

[Lucille]

He could have done a lot of good in the Senate. He probably would have won handily.

 

[cheapseats]

He could have done a lot of good in the Senate. He probably would have won handily.

Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

People either believe that this is CRUNCH TIME, or they don't.

 

[emazur]

As of this time, 93% say Johnson should not have run on the LP ticket after losing the GOP nomination. Something tells me that at least 93% of this same group would be supportive if it was Ron Paul who decided to run for the LP presidency after losing the GOP nomination.

 

[Rocco]

Luckily, Ron Paul is not politically incompetent and would never do such a thing.

As of this time, 93% say Johnson should not have run on the LP ticket after losing the GOP nomination. Something tells me that at least 93% of this same group would be supportive if it was Ron Paul who decided to run for the LP presidency after losing the GOP nomination.