Gary Johnson Gary Johnson: ‘Ron Paul and Myself’ Can ‘Grow the Base’

[torchbearer]

I do think have multiple people advocating non-intervention will actual legitimize the position even more.

this is true.
but it would be bad for our state caucus to have both a ron paul slate and johnson slate.

 

[paulitics]

Johnson should run. It will be difficult to marginalize Ron Paul, with a strong ally in the debates. What would also be great if we had a guy even more extreme than RP, like the guy who ran for the Kentucky Senate, forgot his name. Then it would make Ron Paul look moderate, in comparison. The more guys we have in the debate, the more extreme and out of touch the neocons will appear.

 

[AlexMerced]

this is true.
but it would be bad for our state caucus to have both a ron paul slate and johnson slate.

I doubt Johnson would still be in the race at that point

 

[sailingaway]

I doubt Johnson would still be in the race at that point

but we need the straw polls to gain credibility, the media certainly won't bestow it. He'd be in for those.

However, he is his own person. I just don't support him.

 

[american.swan]

+1776

I am a pessimist and I do NOT see Ron Paul winning in 2012. However Ron Paul should run for 2012. And Gary Johnson should run as well.

The 2008 campaign was the first beam of light that fell on the GOP neocon influenced sheeple base and it did convert a few of them - even if it was a small minority. But that was because Dr. Paul was mocked, ignored and marginalized by the GOP. But it will be very tough to treat two primary candidates the same way they treated Ron Paul. It will be a massive shock to the teaocon "constitutionalists" to see their favorite candidate (Huckabee or Palin or Mittens) be accused of being a big government statist by not just one but two primary contenders. But I presume that neither GJ nor RP will get the nomination. It will go to another statist from the merry band of Bushtards and (Marco Rubio will be the VP nominee) and he/she WILL LOSE AGAINST Obama in the general. That should also doom Rubio's career - being part of a failed ticket is rarely good.

That should wake up enough teaocons (a good portion of whom will also become irrelevant by 2020) to see that the indies will never vote for a Bushtard and that the only way for the GOP to remain relevant is if they turn libertarian-esque (not just in rhetoric but in leadership and principles as well) and it should set up a good chance for Rand to win the presidential election in 2016 or 2020. Rand obviously being a "tea party" guy will be palatable to recovering and semi-recovering teaocons by then.

The only thing I am worried about is that 2016 (or 2020) is too much time for Obama and co. to fuck things up permanently in this country.

I agree 100%. And I'm sure the economy won't last until twenty sixteen. We need to be in the news constantly when hyperinflation sets in.

 

[Legend1104]

You know what, I don't think Johnson would get as much grass roots support. I think ultimately Ron might edge out over Johnson but maybe Johnson running would pull some neo-cons away to his milder version of libertarianism too weaken the neo-cons. Then if he were to drop out before too many primaries, those votes would then go to Paul.