Gary Johnson Gary Johnson polls at 7 percent in Obama/Romney match up

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Huge hat tip to RFP member Anaconda for this story.

I can't help but think that RP would be polling around 25 percent or so.




Gary Johnson polls at 7% in race with Obama and Romney

http://newmexico.watchdog.org/12704/gary-johnson-polls-at-7-in-race-with-obama-and-romney/

By Rob Nikolewski on March 28, 2012

Former New Mexico governor and current Libertarian Party presidential hopeful Gary Johnson polled at 7 percent in a three-way race among himself, Barack Obama and Mitt Romney according to a national survey released by Public Policy Polling.

Depending on how you look at it, the results are good news for Johnson or bad news.

The good news?

That the longshot candidate who hasn’t received much national attention is delivering a relatively decent number in the poll by PPP, which is a research and polling organization associated with the national Democratic Party.

The bad news?

A PPP survey a few months ago asking the same question had Johnson polling at 9 percent — so the new poll actually shows a 2 percent decline in Johnson’s popularity. The margin of error for the survey of 900 Americans across the country was plus or minus 3.3 percent.

The Johnson campaign website highlighted an article saying the PPP poll indicates “Gary Johnson [is] still a distant third in general election polling, but holding his ground.”

As reported first by Capitol Report New Mexico, Johnson has adopted what’s called a “15 percent strategy” — aiming to meet the qualifications of the Commission on Presidential Debates that allows third-party candidates to appear on the same stage as the Republican and Democrat nominees if they poll at 15 percent by five selected national public opinion polling organizations, provided they appear on enough state ballots.

The Libertarian Party nominee would easily meet the minimum for state ballots so should Johnson win the party nomination, he could end up on the stage with Obama and the Republican nominee if can clear the 15 percent hurdle.

Another aspect of the PPP survey showed that a Johnson candidacy does not hurt Obama among the president’s Democrat base but Johnson would hurt Romney somewhat, reducing Romney’s support among GOP voters from 78 to 71 percent.
 
I am suprised 7 percent know him , yeah , I think 20 % for our man ...
 
Gary Johnson polling at 7% says more about Obama & Romney than it does about Johnson.

Hardright Republicans and people who are INVESTED in the Republican Party don't wanna admit it, but the time is RIPE for Independent pickins.

So many people are so much more PISSED than Officials, Executives and Wealthy realize. Think, TINDER BOX.
 
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I don't think it's really 7% support for Gary. I think most people who didn't answer Obama or Romney just chose the third option and would have chosen it even if it was Hitler.

Ron would probably poll a bit higher than that, I'd say around 9-11%.
 
Because most people dont even bother voting. And those who don't want to vote for the D or R choice will probably just stay home.


Are ya basically saying IT'S NO USE?

Me, I think it would take ONE thing...who KNOWS what...false flag, full moon, the right AD, the right SPEECH, maybe a grotesque case of #PoliceBrutality...to persuade a Critical Mass, coming down to the wire, to join/agree with their Countrymen on only one thing and only long enough to say FUCK YOU to Entrenched Elite.

Electing an Independent President, PUNISHING BOTH "PARTIES", is the most expeditious and thorough way to do that.
 
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I don't think it's really 7% support for Gary. I think most people who didn't answer Obama or Romney just chose the third option and would have chosen it even if it was Hitler.

Ron would probably poll a bit higher than that, I'd say around 9-11%.
I bet Hitler would poll lower .
 
That is about where Nader polls this time every election. These numbers are terrible for Johnson considering there were early polls that had him at 13%
 
That is about where Nader polls this time every election. These numbers are terrible for Johnson considering there were early polls that had him at 13%


Considering Johnson is NOT CAMPAIGNING, I view the number as ENCOURAGING.

How much TIME & MONEY d'ya reckon has been spent, for Ron Paul to clear double digits?
 
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Are ya basically saying IT'S NO USE?

Me, I think it would take ONE thing...who KNOWS what...false flag, full moon, the right AD, the right SPEECH, maybe a grotesque case of #PoliceBrutality...to persuade a Critical Mass, coming down to the wire, to join/agree with their Countrymen on only one thing and only long enough to say FUCK YOU to Entrenched Elite.

Electing an Independent President, PUNISHING BOTH "PARTIES", is the most expeditious and thorough way to do that.

I don't know what planet you live on, but that's just not going to happen. 3rd party runs are a waste of time and money.
 
I don't know what planet you live on, but that's just not going to happen. 3rd party runs are a waste of time and money.


You are a Defeatist and a Victim, POSTER POSTER for self-fulfilling prophesy.

Didn't your i.d. latterly say BERLIN + MADRID, where it now sez ISRAEL? Correct me if I'm wrong, you do NOT live in the country of the election in question?
 
People don't vote for third parties. The 'wasted vote syndrome' will always kick in without fail.


Self-fulfilling prophesy . . . hallmark of the SHEEPLE that other Group-Thinkers ironically disdain.
 
You are a Defeatist and a Victim, POSTER POSTER for self-fulfilling prophesy.

Didn't your i.d. latterly say BERLIN + MADRID, where it now sez ISRAEL? Correct me if I'm wrong, you do NOT live in the country of the election in question?

I don't live in Israel

And where I live doesn't matter, I'm being realistic. 3rd party runs are a waste of time. You will not get elected as a LP candidate. You need to work within the system to change anything.

But anyway, I personally see congressional runs as a waste of time and money. Nothing will be changed from DC. It is the state races that are important and winnable. We need more people like Glen Bradley in office. States have the power to nullify and exert their 10th Amendment rights. DC will never give up any power, it must be taken away from them.

This isn't defeatist, it's being realistic. If you want change you can't be living in a fantasyland where you think the LP or CP will get your elected.
 
I don't live in Israel

And where I live doesn't matter, I'm being realistic.


No, you're not being realistic. WHETHER A PERSON LIVES IN AMERICA makes quite a lot of difference...when appraising AMERICAN GROUND CONDITIONS & THE MOODS OF THE PEOPLE WHO EXPERIENCE THEM.

(You have also many times exposed yourself as a NOT-REALISTIC-HYSTERIC on the subject of Abortion.)

You think with your HEART, not your head...that is my opinion of you, take it for what it's worth.



3rd party runs are a waste of time.

Sez you. I say TIMES HAVE CHANGED. That they have changed very much for the WORSE seems to me to make an Independent run LIKELIER, not less likely.


You will not get elected as a LP candidate.

Notice how MARRIED you are to labels.



You need to work within the system to change anything.

Spoken like a true Propagandist . . . or "merely" like The Indoctrinated.


But anyway, I personally see congressional runs as a waste of time and money. Nothing will be changed from DC.

Which is it, then? Effect change by working "within the System", or nothing changes?

Death AND CHANGE are about the only things on which you CAN rely.


DC will never give up any power, it must be taken away from them.

MAKE UP YOUR MIND. You do not TAKE POWER by diligently (and politely) playing "within the System", towing capricious lines and observing arbitrary rules that exist specifically to PROTECT the Powerful.



This isn't defeatist, it's being realistic. If you want change you can't be living in a fantasyland where you think the LP or CP will get your elected.

If you want FREEDOM, you can't be pussy-footing around in a BROKEN/CORRUPTED SYSTEM where your Oppressors have the Offices AND THE ELECTORAL PROCESS, the Laws AND THE JUDGES, the Enforcers AND THE PRISONS, the Banks AND THE PRINTING PRESSES, the Energy, the Weapons AND, increasingly, a stranglehold on MOBILITY.
 
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generally, 3rd party candidates poll much better early on and eventually slide into obscurity as the election gets close. I hope that isn't the case because, if for no other reason than spite, i want to see Romney go down.

if gary got 5% that would be HUGE for the libertarian party because that would then get future lp pres. candidate on all 50 ballots automatically and allow them to use their money for other things.
 
Self-fulfilling prophesy . . . hallmark of the SHEEPLE that other Group-Thinkers ironically disdain.

LOL OK then. Perhaps if we close our eyes and hope otherwise the LP will magically become significant. Never mind that for a century the entire system has been structured so that only those who serve the status-quo have a shot in hell. We can win with the right attitude!
 
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