Gary Johnson Gary Johnson please run for the senate

[The Dark Knight]

I think its pretty clear that the Liberty movement has backed Ron Paul. Having you in the debates was ok but I don't think it helped out Ron as much as some thought it would. I really don't think your campaign will go anywhere and you have a much better chance at winning the senate and fighting for Liberty there. Please consider running for senate and drop out before the Ames straw poll. The Liberty Movement must unite around one candidate and Ron Paul needs every single vote.

 

[RileyE104]

Johnson helped the debate. There's no doubt about that and there's no reason to tell him to get out right now.

I was originally opposed to his campaign and wanted him to run for Senate but I think it's good he's in the debate with Ron.

Imagine if Ron was the only person to not raise a hand in favor of torture last night!
Imagine if Ron was the only person talking about reforming drug policy last night!
It would have been 2008 all over again for Ron Paul.

Also, the way Gary Johnson was treated last night by FOX shows that they are (for the most part) treating him like the Ron Paul of 2008.
No offense (I know it's wrong) but this will overall help Ron Paul.

 

[nobody's_hero]

Also, the way Gary Johnson was treated last night by FOX shows that they are (for the most part) treating him like the Ron Paul of 2008.

That's exactly how I saw it. It's almost as if Gary Johnson is playing a role of 'sacrificial lamb' to help the Paul campaign. When Ron Paul wins, I sincerely hope that GJ gets a role in his cabinet, because I find him to be a good man, but he stumbled a lot last night and yes, they're largely ignoring him.

 

[sailingaway]

Johnson helped the debate. There's no doubt about that and there's no reason to tell him to get out right now.

I was originally opposed to his campaign and wanted him to run for Senate but I think it's good he's in the debate with Ron.

Imagine if Ron was the only person to not raise a hand in favor of torture last night!
Imagine if Ron was the only person talking about reforming drug policy last night!
It would have been 2008 all over again for Ron Paul.

Also, the way Gary Johnson was treated last night by FOX shows that they are (for the most part) treating him like the Ron Paul of 2008.
No offense (I know it's wrong) but this will overall help Ron Paul.

I think he hurt Ron by people tying them together. The GOP knows Ron by now, they KNOW he is against torture. Now they wonder about Gary's issues.

Gary has a right to run for anything he wants but to pretend this does anything but hurt his opponents, particularly Ron who has overlapping issues, is disingenuous, imho

 

[cindy25]

same here. he only helps.

2 of the 5 were liberty candidates; plenty of time to unify later on. and the exposure only helps Johnson for senate

 

[RileyE104]

to pretend this does anything but hurt his opponents, particularly Ron who has overlapping issues, is disingenuous, imho

I disagree. If Johnson wasn't there Pawlenty, Santorum and Cain would have dominated the entire debate and Ron's views would have been largely marginalized.

 

[trey4sports]

Im glad GJ was there, even though he brought his jazz hands

 

[RCA]

Are you kidding me? How can anyone NOT see that Gary being there helped RP?? When the two guys on the end didn't raise their hand regarding water boarding, I got goosebumps. It was fucking awesome. We're building a liberty army.

 

[The Dark Knight]

you are not thinking long term. Gary is missing out on a chance to be in the senate. yeah its great he will be in a few debates but overall his campaign doesn't help Ron Paul as much as some think

 

[RileyE104]

Are you kidding me? How can anyone NOT see that Gary being there helped RP?? When the two guys on the end didn't raise their hand regarding water boarding, I got goosebumps. It was fucking awesome. We're building a liberty army.

Exactly.

However, I'm disappointed that Gary didn't speak up on WHY he opposes torture when Santorum started attacking Ron after Ron declared that it doesn't help.

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

'Carl Sagan on Quaalude' needs public speaking advisers/skills...

The rigged polls are trying to push Gary out so Ron Paul will be exploited in the future as fringe/radical/unelectable/etc... compared to these establishment fixed hacks.

 

[RileyE104]

you are not thinking long term. Gary is missing out on a chance to be in the senate. yeah its great he will be in a few debates but overall his campaign doesn't help Ron Paul as much as some think

It helps in the debates. That's all that matters.
As long as Gary doesn't try to attack Ron.

 

[TIMB0B]

I wouldn't mind seeing a Paul/Johnson ticket.

 

[JohnGalt1225]

I like GJ there and he's fine hanging around a little longer, building a profile. Hopefully he uses that to drop out of the Presidential race, endorse Ron, and then run for Senate.

 

[sailingaway]

It helps in the debates. That's all that matters.
As long as Gary doesn't try to attack Ron.

I don't think it helps at all, except Gary. I see why Gary is doing it, for Gary. But it isn't helpful to Ron to be lumped in as 'one of the libertarians' in every discussion of debates, particularly when Gary's views on abortion etc are NOT Ron's and would to GOP primary voters underline the stereotype of what libertarian means.

 

[drednot]

Ron's always said it's about the message not the man.

It's clear to me that having a two-time governor backing up his positions on stage helps legitimize Ron with curious Republicans.

If Gary is denying him delegates post New Hampshire, only then we can talk about detrimental effects.

 

[Matthew Zak]

The way I see it is if we're going to change as a society, we need this message to be broadcast as much as possible. Even if Johnson and Paul cancel eachother out and some hack ends up president, the people will be more likely to elect the message in the future. Johnson as a Senator, and get Rand Paul in the white house in 2016.

But Ron Paul is sharp and articulate, so I think he'll win the battle between the two. It's healthy. I see no real downside here.

 

[RileyE104]

it isn't helpful to Ron to be lumped in as 'one of the libertarians' in every discussion of debates

It's better to be "one of the libertarians" than "the libertarian" of the debate.

particularly when Gary's views on abortion etc are NOT Ron's and would to GOP primary voters underline the stereotype of what libertarian means.

In the debate, Ron was properly classified as pro-life, no question whatsoever, when Johnson was called out for being the only "pro-choice" candidate.

 

[speciallyblend]

gary can run for senate after he runs for president so mute issue if i am correct!! drop it and move on geez

 

[sailingaway]

Ron's always said it's about the message not the man.

It's clear to me that having a two-time governor backing up his positions on stage helps legitimize Ron with curious Republicans.

If Gary is denying him delegates post New Hampshire, only then we can talk about detrimental effects.

'denying him' one percent in a poll can be the margin between the three way ties he's been in for third place and being in third by himself which is very different and gives a much more 'electable' image. Support whom you want, he isn't helping Ron.