Gary Johnson: "LET'S STOP THESE WARS!"

[timosman]

This interview is so full of missed opportunities it is painful to watch.

 

[undergroundrr]

This interview is so full of missed opportunities it is painful to watch.

What else would you have suggested Gary Johnson say to a liberal audience with a liberal talk show host to get them to seriously consider voting for him instead of Hillary?

 

[euphemia]

I'm writing in Ron Paul, again.

Please write in Darrell Castle. Ron Paul endorsed that ticket in 2008 when Castle was running for VP.

 

[timosman]

What else would you have suggested Gary Johnson say to a liberal audience with a liberal talk show host to get them to seriously consider voting for him instead of Hillary?

He did not respond to any attacks by Larry Wilmore. Larry was trying really hard to portray libertarians as out of whack from the get go.

LW: When did you last smoke weed?
GJ: When? I just had one before the show, it brings clarity of the mind. You should try one sometime, maybe you will not be spewing nonsense on national TV.

After the clip from the convention where the "controversial" behavior was shown, he should have said something along the lines:
I think it definitely works better than the usual circus we see from your bipartisan clowns - both Democrats and Republican politicians. If there is anything we should improve is we should probably work on bringing more attractive people to the front.

 

[undergroundrr]

Those are pretty good. Thanks.

But I think he laid out the main points well. He gave common sense answers in an amenable way and probably came across as somebody the crowd could get along with. They might have been expecting more of a get-off-my-lawn libertarian message.

But I'm most interested in that ending. War is as close as I get to a "single issue."

 

[timosman]

Those are pretty good. Thanks.

But I think he laid out the main points well. He gave common sense answers in an amenable way and probably came across as somebody the crowd could get along with. They might have been expecting more of a get-off-my-lawn libertarian message.

But I'm most interested in that ending. War is as close as I get to a "single issue."

He has the Rand Paul problem. He does not realize when they are fucking with him. That's why Trump is in the lead.

 

[Champ]

Water is wet, grass is green, and Johnson is a fake libertarian.

Still, I'm hoping that he does get in the debates and gives cause and legitimacy to an alternate voice, third parties in general, and the cause of liberty even as diluted as he makes it.

At best, he is the lesser of three evils, instead of two, which I suppose is a slight upgrade.

 

[euphemia]

What else would you have suggested Gary Johnson say to a liberal audience with a liberal talk show host to get them to seriously consider voting for him instead of Hillary?

The truth?

 

[undergroundrr]

The truth?

Note that [MENTION=36896]timosman[/MENTION] gave a substantial reply.

What did he lie about in the interview?

 

[euphemia]

How about he tells the truth about where his views come from? If Ron Paul was doing that interview, he would have said, "Constitution" at least five times. His comment about war was two sentences. That's not passionately delivered. It certainly was not the first thing on his list of things to talk about.

Here is a positive comment about Gary: He clearly does not use Botox. A politician who can use his eyebrows can at least have facial expression.

 

[undergroundrr]

How about he tells the truth about where his views come from? If Ron Paul was doing that interview, he would have said, "Constitution" at least five times. His comment about war was two sentences. That's not passionately delivered. It certainly was not the first thing on his list of things to talk about.

Well, the constitution isn't the only reason not to have war, but since you mentioned it:

Our military should remain the most potent force for good on Earth. To do this, we should resort to military action as the last option and only as provided in the Constitution.

Bring the Troops Home
AMERICAN MILITARY ACTIVITIES IN IRAQ, AFGHANISTAN, AND, now, Libya should end, our troops returned home, and the focus of our foreign policy reoriented toward the protection of U.S. citizens and interests.

* With Osama bin Laden now killed and after 10 years of fighting, U.S. forces should leave Afghanistan's challenges to the Afghan people.
* Saddam Hussein has been out of power in Iraq for nearly eight years. America must leave so Iraq can have a chance to grow into a responsible member of the world community.
* Without a clear goal for our military actions in Libya, fighting rages on, and the American people are footing the bill.
* Decades after the collapse of the Soviet Union, American troops remain scattered throughout Europe. It is time to reevaluate these deployments.
* The U.S. must make better use of military alliances which allow greater sharing of the human and financial burdens at less cost of protecting national interests.

http://garyjohnsongrassrootsblog.blogspot.com/2011/06/issue-of-day-foreign-policy.html

I like that message. Do you like that message?

 

[euphemia]

That's not what he said in the interview, though. That was kind of the point of this thread.

 

[MattRay]

What's good to note, however, is Gary finally going with the non-aggression principle. Often he'd start with the whole "fiscally conservative, socially liberal" schtick. I think the non-aggression principle is a better tagline and message to summarize libertarianism.

My thoughts exactly. I was happy to see Gary drop the "socially liberal" description a while ago, but I'm very happy to see him actually mention and promote the NAP. If he keeps this up, then I won't have to hold my nose when I vote for Gary, unless Bill Weld keeps talking! But it's worth noting that Ron Paul gave this exact advice to Gary when he appeared on Kennedy back in June, specifically about the NAP and dropping the "liberal" description. Hopefully he keeps it up. It would definitely be a positive if he keeps mentioning the NAP in a year when the LP is getting more attention than ever.