Gary Johnson: "LET'S STOP THESE WARS!"

Do you just wait for every thread about Johnson to post your snark?
It's not snark, it's fact. Johnson isn't anti-war and to pretend that he is is laughable.

You support Trump who basically would set fire to the middle east.
He's probably on par with Johnson. Except he doesn't appear to believe in Johnson's humanitarian wars.

Johnson is magnitudes better.
It's curious that whenever someone points out something about Johnson, you appear to try to justify it with... well, he's better than Trump. No offense, but even if that was true, how would that change the fact that Johnson believes in "humanitarian" wars?
 
My support for Gary is definitely waning (probably going Castle or Dr. Paul write-in), but I really don't like the condescending tone of Larry Fillmore. It's really despicable.

EDIT: What's good to note, however, is Gary finally going with the non-aggression principle. Often he'd start with the whole "fiscally conservative, socially liberal" schtick. I think the non-aggression principle is a better tagline and message to summarize libertarianism.
 
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He's probably on par with Johnson. Except he doesn't appear to believe in Johnson's humanitarian wars.

It's curious that whenever someone points out something about Johnson, you appear to try to justify it with... well, he's better than Trump. No offense, but even if that was true, how would that change the fact that Johnson believes in "humanitarian" wars?

Regardless of what he believes is a worthwhile intervention, Gary Johnson also believes, like Ron Paul, that Congress should be involved with the decision to go to war. Where's trump on that?

Gary Johnson said:
We get Congress involved. You realize that all these military interventions are, um, executive, executive orders essentially, and the military. Congress has left themselves out of declaring war. It would be great to have a national discussion on what is it we’re doing. What are the strategies we are implementing? I just think that at the end of the day, regarding all of these military interventions, that boots on the ground, dropping bombs, uh, and flying drones that kill thousands of innocent people. That at the end of the day, making the situation worse, not better. And that is not to discount the very real threat that’s out there. But look, get rid of the funding, involve Congress, um, and with regard to national strategy, an impenetrable national defense. Defense, not offense.

http://2016.presidential-candidates.org/Johnson/?on=terrorism

It's blank-out self-denial to say that this is "on par" with "I would bomb the shit out of 'em." You, trump and Molyneux want to bomb the shit out of 'em. We get that.

But for those who still support the non-interventionist ideals of Ron Paul, Gary Johnson is the most prominent anti-war candidate.
 
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Keep saying that word "prominent." That will make him more electable. :rolleyes:

Not with a ten foot pole.

Why does defense-only military not communicate the meaning?
 
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Take a deep breath. I'm sure you are frustrated with Gary. But, blowing your stack at me isn't going to change anything.

Seriously, LE. We all share in the frustration that is Gary Johnson, but it is completely disingenuous to hear you - an avid Trump supporter - to criticize Johnson in the same areas where Trump is 10X worse!

I don't like Gary's position on TPP, but Trump is a friggin' protectionist!
I don't like Gary's bifurcation on foreign involvement, but Trump is 1000X worse!
I don't like Gary's choice of VP, but Trump picked friggin' Mike Pence!

In other words, it's one thing for us to criticize Johnson for being a shitty libertarian, but for a Trump supporter to do it?

Who the F do you think you're fooling?! You couldn't care less about Johnson's libertarian cred - you just want to keep the party between two authoritarian tyrants.
 
Seriously, LE. We all share in the frustration that is Gary Johnson,
No, I don't think we all do.

but it is completely disingenuous to hear you - an avid Trump supporter - to criticize Johnson in the same areas where Trump is 10X worse!

I don't like Gary's position on TPP, but Trump is a friggin' protectionist!
I don't like Gary's bifurcation on foreign involvement, but Trump is 1000X worse!
I don't like Gary's choice of VP, but Trump picked friggin' Mike Pence!

In other words, it's one thing for us to criticize Johnson for being a $#@!ty libertarian, but for a Trump supporter to do it?

Who the F do you think you're fooling?! You couldn't care less about Johnson's libertarian cred - you just want to keep the party between two authoritarian tyrants.

You forget that I supported both Ron and Rand. Johnson is a poor substitute. The main issue I have with Johnson is the way he is being treated here; still categorizing him as a liberty candidate when he has not been ruled as such; nor should he be. No one has called Trump a liberty candidate and I'm sure it doesn't surprise you to hear that I think he is leaps and bounds better than Johnson. Or, I wouldn't be voting for him. But, this thread is about Johnson. So, once again throwing out... well, Trump, in defense of Johnson's piss poor positions is what is disingenuous.
 
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Consistently Darrell Castle's position.

Castle is awesome. You should appreciate the quote from Johnson above as well - "and with regard to national strategy, an impenetrable national defense. Defense, not offense."
 
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Well. I sure won't disagree that we have to stop these wars. So the man gets credit where it's due for speaking up as such on it. We do need more of that kind of discussion out in the wild.
 
....hopefully someday someone who understands and values honest [individual] freedom can get a microphone and tell the republicrats 'what it is'...

...that they have a 'right' to form a VOLUNTARY organization, foreign legion, etc., and go out and 'save the world' if they so choose..


...however, the goddamned fool republicrats do not have a 'right' to force others to participate in their murderous, ruinous warmongering, meddling, etc....(btw, as if the same gd republicrat fools/puppets who are largely despised for their stinking ideas here at home can/will 'fix things' abroad...how arrogant and clueless are these republicrats?!?)

...so, to sum it up, yes, in a truly 'free society,' you republicrats can form/join/etc. a VOLUNTARY foreign legion, etc. and give YOUR life, YOUR money, etc. to any peckerheaded secret squirrel planetary mission you've been brainwashed into supporting!!...just keep your murderous, ignorant republicrat meathooks out of the treasury!!

...but i don't hear that from johnson or castle..(CERTAINLY NOT TRUMP OR CLINTON)

...i hear johnson and the rest of them talking about 'legalizing' :rolleyes: marijuana...as if in a supposedly sane, just society you need the ''legalizing ok'' :rolleyes: from these goddamned fool village idiot republicrat puppets to exercise your obvious natural rights and responsibilities regarding plant cultivation, ingestion, etc..

...but the biggest one, BY FAR imo, is the absolute ignorance/brainwashing as to 'our' fraudulent monetary order....it seems the pathetic republicrat fools think that by supporting some [stinking] vague 'audit of the fed' that they've addressed the issue...:rolleyes:...in REALITY these republicrats are frequently working their cake-holes about 'the illion dollar economy' absent an honest understanding of the HIDEOUS origin and nature of even one 'dollar' :eek:...word...

...ooga booga, republicrats, unga bunga..(you tube 'bugs bunny unga bunga' for an accurate characterization of typical conversations with republicrats) ;)
 
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How long are we going to be at war with Afghanistan?

Just as long as Idiot America sits idly by and allows the government intelligence arms to use the "war on terror" as cover for protecting and enhancing the heroin trade, domestic use of which is skyrocketing.

And not a minute longer.
 
Oh, and Johnson/Weld are awful.

And here I thought the LP could not possibly shoot itself in the face again, after the Barr fiasco.

I'm writing in Ron Paul, again.
 
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