Gary Johnson ~2012

seems not very charismatic

I just rewatched his speech at the Rally for the Republic. This man is a great candidate and will appeal to the rest of the GOP.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2EhAVQS2V8&feature=related

Seems kind of flat and non charismatic..

Big thing is NM is not a primary state or republican state so not sure how he could stand any chance at all

But that being said would make ideal vp candidate to swing new mexico over to the republican side.
 
Seems kind of flat and non charismatic..

Big thing is NM is not a primary state or republican state so not sure how he could stand any chance at all

But that being said would make ideal vp candidate to swing new mexico over to the republican side.

that doesn't matter one bit.

he's the only Republican who can beat Obama.
 
ventura does have a big following

I would say Jesse Ventura then

Ventura does have a big following and if he cleans up and does the whole clean shaven head thing again he looks pretty macho...and sad to say but that really attracts voters.

Would match the tv culture and emotional process that is the focus of the electorate today.

I would have also thought at one time Gov of SC Sanford would be a natural., he screwed up the tv support speech for mccain pretty bad...cant be all bad :)

He has the tv image, the reputation/voting record, supported ron in congress, and heads a key primary state.
 
Ventura does have a big following and if he cleans up and does the whole clean shaven head thing again he looks pretty macho...and sad to say but that really attracts voters.

Would match the tv culture and emotional process that is the focus of the electorate today.

I would have also thought at one time Gov of SC Sanford would be a natural., he screwed up the tv support speech for mccain pretty bad...cant be all bad :)

He has the tv image, the reputation/voting record, supported ron in congress, and heads a key primary state.

I really like Mark Sanford...he'd make a good candidate, I think.
 
Ventura does have a big following and if he cleans up and does the whole clean shaven head thing again he looks pretty macho...and sad to say but that really attracts voters.

Would match the tv culture and emotional process that is the focus of the electorate today.

I would have also thought at one time Gov of SC Sanford would be a natural., he screwed up the tv support speech for mccain pretty bad...cant be all bad :)

He has the tv image, the reputation/voting record, supported ron in congress, and heads a key primary state.

I have to say that I prefer Ventura, because he can break through the media blockade. The media is the main reason Ron Paul lost.

Having said that, theres no reason why we cant take another shot at the GOP nomination at the same time.
 
Ventura does have a big following and if he cleans up and does the whole clean shaven head thing again he looks pretty macho...and sad to say but that really attracts voters.

Would match the tv culture and emotional process that is the focus of the electorate today.

I'd like to see Ventura clean up his image, and drop the truther rhetoric. I've said elsewhere that 9/11 still has question marks, but the media bullies love to kill support through ridiculous accusations of 'insanity' because one is a dissenter. Sometimes you have to put a lid on it - and I'm not requesting that he lie about what he believes, but he isn't going to win supporters focusing on that aspect of his ideals.
 
Seems kind of flat and non charismatic..

Big thing is NM is not a primary state or republican state so not sure how he could stand any chance at all

But that being said would make ideal vp candidate to swing new mexico over to the republican side.

That has go to be the worst made up excuse I have ever head
 
Seems kind of flat and non charismatic..

That's one speech. I've seen him speak a lot, and he's really good, especially when he's talking actual issues (which he didn't do much of in the campagn for liberty speech).

Big thing is NM is not a primary state or republican state so not sure how he could stand any chance at all

The fact that it's not a GOP state is a good thing - Johnson won there twice by over 10% despite being a Republican. He left office with huge appoval ratings, and he passed many progressive measures that put the left on his side. He would win the state.

But that being said would make ideal vp candidate to swing new mexico over to the republican side.

I disagree. He's young, charismatic, good looking, an athlete, a term-limited governor with strong policy wins and credentials, he's the perfect choice. Give him the top nod and he'll succeed in every way that Paul didn't.
 
Maybe I'm missing something, but is there any reason Ron Paul cannot run again? I know he'll be 76 in 2012, but he's healthy so I doubt there's an issue with age unless there's a specific rule. But he would actually need to be prepared this time to be president.
 
Whomever Paul endorses in the Presidential election is likely to be the best option, but if any of them are anti-fed, non-interventionist, and of the Austrian free-trader variety (or maybe even the Chicagoan, but still anti-fed)---i'll support Sanford, Flake, or Johnson.

I think Johnson would cause some problems because he says he's pro-choice (but supported pro-life stuff while in office?) and doesnt seem to be outspoken on the war or the Fed. He's GREAT on the War on Drugs though. He's my top guy.

After that, Sanford. Sanford has proved he's willing to buck the system (releasing pigs on the floor of the SC House to protest "pork", AWESOME!) and is anti-REAL ID. He worked with Paul while in Congress in a great way.

Flake is now against the War in Iraq, the Patriot Act, and is beloved in Arizona and by pork-busters everywhere. Unfortunately he is still somewhat of a hawk, hasnt shown anything on the War on Drugs, and we know nothing about what he thinks of the Fed.
 
I think our candidate's main issue should be to eliminate the central bank - Jackson style. All other issues can be explained as a symptom of the Federal Reserve system.
 
Stiles,

Maybe not the MAIN issue,because that issue wont click but with about 1 million former-Paul supporters. But he could make it AN issue. First,though, he should gain notoriety amongst rank-and-file republicans.
 
It certainly seemed like he was selling himself to us during his speech at the rally.
 
Stiles,

Maybe not the MAIN issue,because that issue wont click but with about 1 million former-Paul supporters. But he could make it AN issue. First,though, he should gain notoriety amongst rank-and-file republicans.

Wasn't there a list of 4 issues somewhere...

;)
 
Ventura is preferred, ESPECIALLY because of the truther issue. Look, we tried it Paul's way of not talking about the false flag, and how many states did we win??? We tried it the nontruthers' way, it didn't work. It's time for frank engagement of all issues of wide concern to the liberty movement.
 
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