Gangster Rap Video on RonPaul2008.com TOTALLY Inappropriate for Presidential Campaign

Please read my two points in the original post. THAT'S what's wrong with this video.

Younger people just don't realize how offensive this type of music is to middle-aged or older Americans for the most part.

And then there's the slam against U.S. soldiers. TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE.

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Nah, what's in the minds of most Americans is utter bunk. Appealing to irrationality has rapidly diminishing returns.

If people are so closed-minded and programmed to never reconsider their presumptions or be objective, well then there's really no hope for America and Claire Wolfe's comment will become reality for a while:

“America is at that awkward stage. It’s too late to change the system from within, yet too early to shoot the bastards.”
 
are you referring to the same old people that we're all supposed to get off of the
internet and reach out to... since they're not on the internet or whatever???

so is a rap video on the website going to matter all that much to these... ummm... older people....


jeez, demon collectivism muddles it all.
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If you don't like it, don't watch it. Feel free to contact the campaign and let them know that you don't like it. That's your right. But calling for it's removal I'm against. Freedom is popular.
 
I know it does. And that is what truly saddens me and many older Americans. It is a sad commentary on the preferences of the younger generation.

Oh? Is it really a sad commentary on the preferences of the "younger generation"? Is it the corruption that "gangster rap" brought that you dislike or is it the music itself?

"Gangster Rap" was promoted by the media, not by the hip hop community. Rap music is poetry, nothing more nothing less. How is poetry a bad thing? Hip hop music came from a much different place than "gangster rap" did. True hip hop is a testament to freedom and is the spoken word of poets from situations that cause them to speak out.

There is a difference between the "four elements" of hip hop and "gangster rap". Gangster rap is nothing more than the words of those who are living lives full of hatred and fear. Hip hop is the message of hope and conscience. Sometimes of love, jealousy, poverty, or other facets of life and experience. This message was twisted by those more interested in the dollar than anything else.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqQXD6bV5kQ

A tribute to Nagasaki and Hiroshima by a Japanese hip hop artist. One who the mainstream would never promote as the messages spread by these types of hip hop artists are counter culture; revolutionary. Those of peace, freedom, love, and tolerance. The message that Krush sends through Aletheuo (Truthspeaking) is that we do not listen to those who are against war (the freaks), that our lives are sucked into corporatism. And that while an entire society was sent to oblivion in the past today we live without reverence to these tragic events. I see nothing but beauty in this type of art. How is this not true?

It is not the choice of the hip hop community to have gangster rap or the faux MTV style of "hip hop" promoted over the real message.

Hip hop consists of four artists:

1. The DJ who modifies the music through mixing and manipulation of vinyl.
2. The MC who contributes spoken word and poetry of a variety of subjects.
3. The graffiti artist who modifies the world around us and changes the environment we are in directly.
4. The dancer or "bboy" who expresses physically the message of the music itself.

None of these elements is respected by MTV or the various music industry executives. They do not promote these messages, and you should be asking why.

Guns, bitches, and bling were never part of the four elements and never will be.

Just like we fight against an MSM that spreads lies and distortions music itself is manipulated by the very same forces. Canned and distributed in formulas based on their ability to generate revenue. Some would say deliberately to influence youth culture away from the positive values that the music truly represents.


In true hip hop culture we have a great and untapped ally against the evils of mankind. Just my 2 copper.


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are you referring to the same old people that we're all supposed to get off of the
internet and reach out to... since they're not on the internet or whatever???

so is a rap video on the website going to matter all that much to these... ummm... older people....


jeez, demon collectivism muddles it all.

when i say older, i mean people in their 30s and 40s who really dont listen to rap music. i am a doctor in my early thirties and yes, i listen to rap music.
But i can tell you right now that my older colleagues abhors rap music and would be completely turned off by that video on that website. (I direct many many many of my colleagues to that particular website everyday.)
 
I think it's great that they endorse the music video. they should endorse this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZArWe8o_hI one as well. When you endorse freedom folks, you do it for everyone, not just the people you like. I'm not a huge fan of rap, but I am a huge fan of artistry in every form. This was a great song, and I'm inspired to see young people out DOING SOMETHING!!! "Ron Paul for President 2000 and 8"!!!! How can you argue with that?
 
OHHHH NOES!!! It's da GANGSTA RAP!!

hahahaha you people are funny...if rapping about corrupt politics and a horrible political system is "gangster" than the ghetto must be doing buetter than I thought LOL
 
The song/video in question is an outstanding example of the effort certain people put forth due to the freedom message Ron Paul brings.
 
Yeah I forgot to mention, this is NOT "gangsta" rap, it IS rap though.



OHHHH NOES!!! It's da GANGSTA RAP!!

hahahaha you people are funny...if rapping about corrupt politics and a horrible political system is "gangster" than the ghetto must be doing buetter than I thought LOL
 
"I think the essence of what Hip Hop is about, I mean, I think you people can attest to it, you people that are here, it’s not about money, cars and diamonds and giving the negative images to our kids and making them believe that they have to walk around with a gun and shot it just to feel validated. You know what I mean. Or they have to strive to be drug dealers. You know what I mean. That’s not what it is, that’s not what it is. So if you do anything, remember that hip-hop is not just about the music, I mean, it's about a way of life, and our whole culture, and it didn't start with the Sugarhill Gang, and as much as I love Jam Master Jay it didn't start with Run DMC.

Before Rap was game before Hip Hop was a Nation,
Before Lauryn Hill began her miseducation.
Before Milk was Chillin’ or PE Brought the Noise,
Before Heavy D and the Boyz.
Before the roof caught on fire,
Before fresh was the word.
Before Whodini and Friends and Roxanne’s Revenge
Before the freaks came out at night.
Before Say “HO”,
Before the Crash Crew was rocking on the Radio.
Before Whitney, Mariah and Brandy and Janet,
Before, Bam and the Soul Sonic Force Rocked the Planet
Before these are the Breaks, and
Before Hard Times.
Before the Gang, King Tim and Before Super Rhymes.
Before Reagonomics,
Before Rapper got shot in thier stomachs.
Before you found Hip Hop in comics.
Before Gee’s ,
Before weed was Trees.
Before going raw dog gave you a deadly disease,
Before Haters,
Before Thugs and perpetrators.
Before the Alphas and
Before the Betas.
Before beeper, cell phones, retrogards, FedEx, Food Stamps and Metro Cars
Before Gatz, or Cops were 5-“O” and
Before Gatz was answers and
Before the B-Boys turned into break dancers
Before Legs was Crazy,
Before Al turned to Swayzy,
Back Before my man “L” said its Hot and its Humid and its Hazy.
Before trends and tattoos,
By know means get this twisted,
My name is HIP HOP and I’ve always existed.”

- Grandmaster Caz
 
"Younger people just don't realize how offensive this type of music is to middle-aged or older Americans for the most part."


I hope you are kidding here. If this type of music offends you, you are showing your ignorance and your lack of information and knowledge concerning people and music.

I heard no mention of ho's, killing, bitches or anything close.

The song seemed to me to be very supportive of the Constitution and the good things about America and all you heard a beat and some rhymes and associated it with "gansters".

Hey I have an idea. Let's try to make all young people conform to the thoughts, lifestyles and music of "middle aged or older Americans". That way we wouldn't have to put up with young people expressing themselves in a way that we don't approve of.

I remember when I wasn't allowed to have a Beatles album because my father thought it would somehow corrupt me.

As for your take on the soldier line, I think your skewed perception of the music has affected your ability to listen to the entire song for what it is.
 
Something for you to reflect on Wayne, and again I respect your opinion and completely understand your concerns.

But isn't it the older generations treatment of the messages coming from the youth that should be called to question? Is it not those of the elder generation that choose ultimately what is promoted from the cultural diversity that makes up our nation?


Just some more thoughts for you.
 
"Younger people just don't realize how offensive this type of music is to middle-aged or older Americans for the most part."


I hope you are kidding here. If this type of music offends you, you are showing your ignorance and your lack of information and knowledge concerning people and music.
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first off, let me say that i like the song.
but like i stated earlier, i direct many many older professionals (mostly doctors) to the official site who will turn off rap music in any shape or form. This is the reality. I am quite certain that the message the rap song impart is quite powerful but if they are not willing to listen to it because its in the wrong form of music, all that message is lost.
 
Stop judging it because it's "rap". Listen to the lyrics. After all, lyrics are what make a song. The style the song is played has nothing to do with how it should be perceived.
 
Please read my two points in the original post. THAT'S what's wrong with this video.

Younger people just don't realize how offensive this type of music is to middle-aged or older Americans for the most part.

And then there's the slam against U.S. soldiers. TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE.

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Little solder refers to the penis when at attention. Not good.

Randy.
 
I would rather have a video that does cause a little controversy, then the media may actually report on it for an entire week...headlines being "Ron Paul is now encouraging rebellion in youth with rap videos on his website", maybe then they would put his name on every 20 minutes like Huck's Christmas ad...the only problem is that if we look at the history of voting, the people this would likely reach and encourage to vote, don't typically vote in elections...history has repeatedly showed that it is the older population that seems to turn out for elections and if I was the campaign, I would be treading lightly with the older population and trying to get as many of those people as possible.
 
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