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The trend I am seeing is that, with the notable exception of Ned Stark, they are not handling the big deaths very well. The Red Wedding looked strange to me, and it was missing some things to give it oomph. Lysa's death was fumbled due to the short-sighted design of the moon door (as a moon hatch, instead), plus a change in lines. Even Dontos' death was a little pointless given that we don't grow to care for him much in the show.

I feel the same about Oberyn. The fight was unnecessarily short and lacked a few things to make it more poignant. It wasn't the performance, but maybe more of the build up and the camera work. This is a man who's been talking about avenging his sister since he arrived, but we watch the fight from afar. His lines are delivered quickly, and he basically only has a few minutes to swing his spear around and look badass. Not only that, but it looks like the Mountain was killed, too? We won't find out for a couple of weeks there.

I guess this is only made worse because of the rest of the episode. I would have to time it, but did a story about beetles get almost as much time as the fight?

Agreed. Wanted much more from the Mountain and the Viper fight. As the show progressed I almost had the feeling that the actual fight would be put off until the next episode.
 
Im just glad sansa finally stopped being annoying and started being hot.
 
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Im just glad sansa finally stopped being annoying and started being hot. The buzz on the internet seems to be some of the craziest twist in the series will take place in the next two episodes. Im ready!

Yeah, I'm down with that.
 
Not only that, but it looks like the Mountain was killed, too? We won't find out for a couple of weeks there.

If they both died, how does that decide the fate of Tyrion?

(I haven't read the books, so no spoilers on this question from anyone!)
 
Does the Bolton bastard irritate anyone else? The actor is overacting the insanity face, and someone that crazy would have been dead a long time ago.
 
Does the Bolton bastard irritate anyone else? The actor is overacting the insanity face, and someone that crazy would have been dead a long time ago.

I thinks he's really good for the story. Have no problems with his acting. He's got a Clockwork Orange feel about him.
 
If they both died, how does that decide the fate of Tyrion?

(I haven't read the books, so no spoilers on this question from anyone!)

Well, I would think it'd be whoever dies last is the winner there. I don't think Oberyn survived that :p but I'm not sure if the Mountain did (he was soundly skewered but for whatever reason people survive the damnedest things on television). I think Tywin's declaration left little doubt on the issue of who won as far as the trial is concerned.
 
The trend I am seeing is that, with the notable exception of Ned Stark, they are not handling the big deaths very well. The Red Wedding looked strange to me, and it was missing some things to give it oomph. Lysa's death was fumbled due to the short-sighted design of the moon door (as a moon hatch, instead), plus a change in lines. Even Dontos' death was a little pointless given that we don't grow to care for him much in the show.

I feel the same about Oberyn. The fight was unnecessarily short and lacked a few things to make it more poignant. It wasn't the performance, but maybe more of the build up and the camera work. This is a man who's been talking about avenging his sister since he arrived, but we watch the fight from afar. His lines are delivered quickly, and he basically only has a few minutes to swing his spear around and look badass. Not only that, but it looks like the Mountain was killed, too? We won't find out for a couple of weeks there.

I guess this is only made worse because of the rest of the episode. I would have to time it, but did a story about beetles get almost as much time as the fight?

So much so, that I had to google Dontos. He had like 3 scenes in 2 episodes; I take it he played a larger role in the novels?
 
So much so, that I had to google Dontos. He had like 3 scenes in 2 episodes; I take it he played a larger role in the novels?

Not really IMO. The only difference is that in the book he met with Sansa several times in the godswood rather than just the one time in the show.
 
So much so, that I had to google Dontos. He had like 3 scenes in 2 episodes; I take it he played a larger role in the novels?

Given the spirit of the thread, I was going off of the series itself. This is someone who we're supposed to believe that Sansa trusts, but why? And we're supposed to be sad or shocked when he's shot, but it was so quick that it just wasn't that big a deal.
 
Im just glad sansa finally stopped being annoying and started being hot. The buzz on the internet seems to be some of the craziest twist in the series will take place in the next two episodes. Im ready!

I don't even know why I come to this thread :/
 
I don't even know why I come to this thread :/

People are actually being rather careful, and you notice the book-readers have neither confirmed nor denied this. The only speculation that's been confirmed is that next episode will take place entirely on the Wall (like the Blackwater episode?), but you could tell that from the previews at the end of the last episode.
 
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