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[Carlybee]

Good question. Jaime obviously still loves his sister, but he looks like he's becoming disenchanted with her. After all of that talk about wanting to be a good person and to fill the book and the way he looks at Brianne, I'd guess (hope maybe) that he's sincere. Call me crazy, but I like The King Slayer and hope he marries Brianne and has little warrior babies!

I think Cersei would have her head first.

 

[COpatriot]

Mmm yeah.

 

[BamaAla]

I think Cersei would have her head first.

lol, probably.

 

[specsaregood]

I'm pretty sure Arya is my favorite character so far. Not knowing anything about what will happen; I pick her to avenge her family and take the throne someday.

 

[Philhelm]

I'm pretty sure Arya is my favorite character so far. Not knowing anything about what will happen; I pick her to avenge her family and take the throne someday.

That's too bad. She is going to die this season. Probably an episode before the finale.

 

[specsaregood]

That's too bad. She is going to die this season. Probably an episode before the finale.

I don't believe you.

 

[Philhelm]

I don't believe you.

Ah, you got me. She'll probably survive the series, or at least live until the end. My favorite character walks around with a noose around his neck.

 

[BamaAla]

Ah, you got me. She'll probably survive the series, or at least live until the end. My favorite character walks around with a noose around his neck.

lol, that could be anyone. Tyrion?

 

[Nirvikalpa]

Also, opinions on Sandor Clegane (The hound)? He was just becoming so likable and then he robbed that old man? What's a libertarian to do?

That doesn't happen in the book, either!

 

[fr33]

The producers are turning basically every consensual sex scene (in the books) into a rape scene in the show. The worst depiction was Daenerys & Drogo, who in the book had a very romantic and consensual marriage night. The show made you think he went from a monster in Daenerys eyes to a hulky hero deserving of respect - when in all honestly, he always had it and was never a monster. Suddenly "moon of my life" and "my sun and stars" makes sense.

Next was Cersei & Jaime in the room with their dead son, Joffrey.

It was slightly different from the book in both of those instances but not as different as many other scenes were.

By modern western feminist standards, both scenes would be rape even in the book though.

In the books; Daenerys cried before having sex and did not even want to be married to Drogo. Like in the books; in the show Daenerys was never happy with sex until she crawled on top.

The biggest difference between the books and show in the "sex on Joffrey's funeral" is that in the book this was when Jaime had just returned home from being a prisoner rather than in the show where he'd been home for a while and even at the wedding (which he wasn't in the books). In the book Cersei resisted and told him "no" up until he laid her out and started doing it to her. Then she gave in.


Regardless, let's not act like slave-rape isn't a common occurrence in the books. When people talk about how filthy and porno-like the show is, I tell them it's nothing compared to the books.

 

[COpatriot]

It was slightly different from the book in both of those instances but not as different as many other scenes were.

By modern western feminist standards, both scenes would be rape even in the book though.

In the books; Daenerys cried before having sex and did not even want to be married to Drogo. Like in the books; in the show Daenerys was never happy with sex until she crawled on top.

The biggest difference between the books and show in the "sex on Joffrey's funeral" is that in the book this was when Jaime had just returned home from being a prisoner rather than in the show where he'd been home for a while and even at the wedding (which he wasn't in the books). In the book Cersei resisted and told him "no" up until he laid her out and started doing it to her. Then she gave in.


Regardless, let's not act like slave-rape isn't a common occurrence in the books. When people talk about how filthy and porno-like the show is, I tell them it's nothing compared to the books.

They also left out the detail that cersei was on her period.

 

[brandon]

They also left out the detail that cersei was on her period.

Probably for the best...

 

[COpatriot]

 

[MelissaWV]

It was slightly different from the book in both of those instances but not as different as many other scenes were.

By modern western feminist standards, both scenes would be rape even in the book though.

In the books; Daenerys cried before having sex and did not even want to be married to Drogo. Like in the books; in the show Daenerys was never happy with sex until she crawled on top.

The biggest difference between the books and show in the "sex on Joffrey's funeral" is that in the book this was when Jaime had just returned home from being a prisoner rather than in the show where he'd been home for a while and even at the wedding (which he wasn't in the books). In the book Cersei resisted and told him "no" up until he laid her out and started doing it to her. Then she gave in.


Regardless, let's not act like slave-rape isn't a common occurrence in the books. When people talk about how filthy and porno-like the show is, I tell them it's nothing compared to the books.

Yeah I was baffled at the "outcry" over the scene in the sept. In the books she's pounding her fists on her back and angry at him, but then it turns enthusiastic. Dany has a similar experience where she's crying and shy until she takes over. Frankly I find that a much more disturbing framework for that kind of scene. It implies that if a woman says no, if she's kicking and screaming and beating on you and telling you to stop, you should just keep going until she starts liking it.

There is also much more consensual sex in the show, though much of that happens in brothels to allow for exposition of plot AND flesh simultaneously.

People who think the book is not worse on this front don't seem to have given much thought to what happens when Drogo takes over the Lamb People, or where the entire concept of Craster and his daughters/wives came from.

 

[phill4paul]

It will be interesting where tonight's episode will take us in light of last weeks new development....

 

[Feeding the Abscess]

It was slightly different from the book in both of those instances but not as different as many other scenes were.

By modern western feminist standards, both scenes would be rape even in the book though.

In the books; Daenerys cried before having sex and did not even want to be married to Drogo. Like in the books; in the show Daenerys was never happy with sex until she crawled on top.

The biggest difference between the books and show in the "sex on Joffrey's funeral" is that in the book this was when Jaime had just returned home from being a prisoner rather than in the show where he'd been home for a while and even at the wedding (which he wasn't in the books). In the book Cersei resisted and told him "no" up until he laid her out and started doing it to her. Then she gave in.


Regardless, let's not act like slave-rape isn't a common occurrence in the books. When people talk about how filthy and porno-like the show is, I tell them it's nothing compared to the books.

There's a 'check your privilege' type of feminist on another forum that is furious about the 'rape' scenes in the show, how they've turned Jaime into a villain because of it, etc. Boggles the mind how she throws out 'check your privilege' in nearly every post while just skating around the nature of sexual relationships in the book.

 

[MelissaWV]

Last night might possibly have been the most boring episode of the entire series. They even managed to turn a sinister situation with Sansa into a blink-and-you-missed-it arrival to the Vale.

And they ended the unnecessary mingling of Jon's storyline, Locke's storyline, and Bran's... okay let's call it a storyline... with Bran having to make a "tough choice" to stay the course and keep looking for his three-eyed raven.

Why... just why...

Who read the books and thought "know what? We totally need more Bran. And bonus points if he's played by a weirdly Britty girl-looking boy."

 

[francisco]

Last night might possibly have been the most boring episode of the entire series. They even managed to turn a sinister situation with Sansa into a blink-and-you-missed-it arrival to the Vale.

And they ended the unnecessary mingling of Jon's storyline, Locke's storyline, and Bran's... okay let's call it a storyline... with Bran having to make a "tough choice" to stay the course and keep looking for his three-eyed raven.

I liked last night's ep.

And it gave me a laugh to hear Tywin's rant over Westeros' own central bank , the unyielding Iron Bank

 

[COpatriot]

Bran sucks. Book and show. I wish Jaime had actually killed him. That guy who hit him last week quickly became my hero and then they had Jon kill him. They really do kill off all the good characters. Oh well. We get more Stannis the Mannis next week.

 

[BamaAla]

Last night might possibly have been the most boring episode of the entire series. They even managed to turn a sinister situation with Sansa into a blink-and-you-missed-it arrival to the Vale.

And they ended the unnecessary mingling of Jon's storyline, Locke's storyline, and Bran's... okay let's call it a storyline... with Bran having to make a "tough choice" to stay the course and keep looking for his three-eyed raven.

Why... just why...

Who read the books and thought "know what? We totally need more Bran. And bonus points if he's played by a weirdly Britty girl-looking boy."

I've thought the last two episodes were pretty boring. I saw somewhere that the show had been renewed for two more seasons and the author is still writing books in the series, so more boring episodes may be in store.

I currently love the show, but I can see it going, for me, the way of "The Walking Dead" and "How I Met your Mother." TWD went straight boring so much so that it seemed like every episode consisted of 12 minutes of Rick looking off in silence. How I met... just never got to the point and drug out everything to fill episodes. I fear that Game of Thrones could go the same direction.