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[Brian4Liberty]

Of all the stuff you listed, Danys going tyrant bitch is the least offensive. She was always a crazy power hungry person, she just played the savior for power and selfish reasons.

Yeah, she was always entitled to be the all powerful benevolent dictator. But burning up woman and children was out of (a well-developed) character.

 

[ThePaleoLibertarian]

Of all the stuff you listed, Danys going tyrant bitch is the least offensive. She was always a crazy power hungry person, she just played the savior for power and selfish reasons.

I don't have a problem with Dany becoming the mad queen. That's been hinted at in the books for a while now. She's her father's daughter and all that. But it's how it was done. She goes from someone willing to sacrifice her forces and possibly her dragons to defend the world of the living (that episode was a shitshow, but still) to someone willing to massacre millions of innocents after she had already won. She's been brutal in the past, but it was always toward people who had done something against her. Slave masters, traitors, enemy houses, etc.

This was the person who locked up her dragons for the better part of a season because one child got burned to death. If you want to turn that character in a genocidal maniac, that's fine, but it has to be properly foreshadowed so it can be arrived at slowly and thoroughly. She went from breaker of chains to mass murderer of civilians in two episodes FFS.

 

[Swordsmyth]

[h=1]'Game of Thrones' fans start petition for HBO to remake season 8[/h]

 

[angelatc]

https://twitter.com/reddit/status/1128733295988973568

See the white light flashing as I split the knight....

 

[Brian4Liberty]

[h=1]'Game of Thrones' fans start petition for HBO to remake season 8[/h]

It really seems that HBO just decided to stop putting money into it. Wrap it up and end it.

 

[angelatc]

I don't have a problem with Dany becoming the mad queen. That's been hinted at in the books for a while now. She's her father's daughter and all that. But it's how it was done. She goes from someone willing to sacrifice her forces and possibly her dragons to defend the world of the living (that episode was a shitshow, but still) to someone willing to massacre millions of innocents after she had already won. She's been brutal in the past, but it was always toward people who had done something against her. Slave masters, traitors, enemy houses, etc.

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I am only a casual watcher, but didn't they off her bestie

 

[Brian4Liberty]

They have jumped the shark. The writers are not worthy of the source material.

The deadly giant crossbows no longer work?

Another note on that. They put the crossbows all along the low outer wall and didn’t put any at the towers of the Red Keep?

 

[navy-vet]

disappointing....

 

[Son_of_Liberty90]

For those that have watched all episodes: what's your overall take on the show? I stopped watching at the end of Season 2. I thought the seasons had too much filler/padding, and were too grim i.e. mostly all of the characters were losers or overly corrupt, message of the show was "Evil/corruption always wins, don't bother trying to better the world." Only characters I liked were Jon Snow, Arya, and Tyrion. I really liked Ned Stark too, but he was way too naive.

 

[TheTexan]

Season 8






SO BAD

 

[Swordsmyth]

For those that have watched all episodes: what's your overall take on the show? I stopped watching at the end of Season 2. I thought the seasons had too much filler/padding, and were too grim i.e. mostly all of the characters were losers or overly corrupt, message of the show was "Evil/corruption always wins, don't bother trying to better the world." Only characters I liked were Jon Snow, Arya, and Tyrion. I really liked Ned Stark too, but he was way too naive.

I don't watch the show but from the news stories I see I'd say your assessment of the message is correct: "Evil/corruption always wins, don't bother trying to better the world."

 

[Brian4Liberty]

They may have won the “lamest final season” of a major show ever.

This was genius in comparison:

 

[ThePaleoLibertarian]

For those that have watched all episodes: what's your overall take on the show? I stopped watching at the end of Season 2. I thought the seasons had too much filler/padding, and were too grim i.e. mostly all of the characters were losers or overly corrupt, message of the show was "Evil/corruption always wins, don't bother trying to better the world." Only characters I liked were Jon Snow, Arya, and Tyrion. I really liked Ned Stark too, but he was way too naive.

There's actually quite a strong anti-war message, or at least there was before the writers butchered the White Walker storyline.

From what I know, George RR Martin is your usual mid-20th Century liberal, but I actually think the series has a rather reactionary undercurrent; and I'm using that term affectionately, not the way leftists use it.

Institutions experience entropy and degrade over time, and that's illustrated throughout the world:

The Seven Kingdoms used to be independent, but were conquered by the Targaryen dynasty
The Targaryens ruled for centuries, but were eventually usurped due to a crazed king
The Night's Watch were once the protectors of all men, but have fallen into disrepute as a useless group of bastards and former criminals

Civilizational entropy is all around the world of Westeros, and that's an idea that liberalism has never actually reckoned with.

I don't think the message is evil always wins. The theme is more that virtue is unrewarded in a political system, in favor of machinations and cunning. This is pretty obviously true, regardless of the system. The truly pure evil lose, as frequently as the good do, due to a lack of foresight.

 

[Swordsmyth]

[h=2]Over 1 Million Viewers Urge Remake Of Game Of Thrones Final Season "With Competent Writers"[/h]
And Disney is still insisting that they will let these bozos handle the next Star Wars movie.

 

[TheTexan]

 

[TheTexan]

petition to remake season 8 with competent writers

 

[Anti Globalist]

The showrunners of Game of Thrones stated during the series finale that they are going to be hiding in a undisclosed area getting very drunk and far away from the internet. In other words, no accountability whatsoever.

 

[specsaregood]

[h=2]Over 1 Million Viewers Urge Remake Of Game Of Thrones Final Season "With Competent Writers"[/h]
And Disney is still insisting that they will let these bozos handle the next Star Wars movie.

First thing DW said to me at the conclusion of GOT, well that certainly doesn't bode well for the new Star Wars series.

 

[Son_of_Liberty90]

There's actually quite a strong anti-war message, or at least there was before the writers butchered the White Walker storyline.

From what I know, George RR Martin is your usual mid-20th Century liberal, but I actually think the series has a rather reactionary undercurrent; and I'm using that term affectionately, not the way leftists use it.

Institutions experience entropy and degrade over time, and that's illustrated throughout the world:

The Seven Kingdoms used to be independent, but were conquered by the Targaryen dynasty
The Targaryens ruled for centuries, but were eventually usurped due to a crazed king
The Night's Watch were once the protectors of all men, but have fallen into disrepute as a useless group of bastards and former criminals

Civilizational entropy is all around the world of Westeros, and that's an idea that liberalism has never actually reckoned with.

I don't think the message is evil always wins. The theme is more that virtue is unrewarded in a political system, in favor of machinations and cunning. This is pretty obviously true, regardless of the system. The truly pure evil lose, as frequently as the good do, due to a lack of foresight.

So does GOT explore further in depth this idea of civilization entropy, or is it just established based on the timeline you gave? (e.g. were conquered by the Targaryen dynasty, The Targaryens ruled for centuries, but were eventually usurped due to a crazed king). Sounds like the rule was fine until the crazed monarch.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

It’s one thing to have an occasional character change their established behavior, another to do it to every character all at once. Likewise, there may be an occasional storyline or incident that strains credulity beyond suspension of disbelief, but it’s completely unacceptable to have all of the storiy lines become ridiculously illogical.

Fail across the board.