Galt's Gulch Chile is ready for inhabitants

[KerriAnn]

Ayn Rand's Vision of Galt's Gulch Has Become Reality As Of Today

After months of hard work by the entire staff at Galt's Gulch Chile (GGC) I am extremely pleased to announce to the world that Ayn Rand's vision in her iconic book, Atlas Shrugged, has become a reality. It is unfortunate that the world has transformed much into what Rand had envisioned and the need for a place like Galt's Gulch has become so urgent. But, since that is today's reality we are very happy to offer the respite from the Western world of oppressive governments to freedom-minded people in which they can build a new, more prosperous community.

Looks like they are semi-prepared for whoever is ready to move in! I just don't know about this place. I mean, in theory, it's awesome. And Chile is just about the best place you could put it, but what will it be like in reality?

What is this about a "Founders Club"? You invest money now and get it back in five years PLUS keep your land? Sounds like a possible pyramid scheme... Sounds fishy.

 

[Keith and stuff]

I want them to have a good time. It would be nice to have a freeish place that is warm when it is cold in New Hampshire.

Part of the description doesn't fit with the Atlas Shrugged but there is no need to nitpick about good things.

A warm and moderate, southern California/Mediterranean-style climate

 

[sailingaway]

Doesn't Chile have problems about getting money out? Isn't Sovereign Man there? They have a whole 'kit' to live free and if I am remembering correctly, Chile wasn't the place they thought you should keep any money at least.

Chile sounds lovely though.

And yeah, it does sound pyramid scheme-ish. There have been a few of these through the years, and most sounded pyramid scheme-ish to me. But then, infrastructure needs to be built so it makes sense on one level that those in there first would need more enticement.

Still.....

 

[FSP-Rebel]

Looks decent but the landscape doesn't look that rich imo. Maybe there's a better selection of photos that I haven't seen.

 

[ItsTime]

5...4...3...2...1 until the CIA sends provocateurs there to cause a ruckus

 

[idiom]

Announced to the world?

Have they even read Atlas Shrugged?

 

[angelatc]

The land is expensive, IMHO. $98,000 for 2.5 acres in South America seems like it's a little high.

 

[Debbie Downer]

The land is expensive, IMHO. $98,000 for 2.5 acres in South America seems like it's a little high.

Fertile land in Chile is very expensive. Remember, they're a very "thin" (only 200 miles across but 2600 miles long) country right along the coast with the Andes to the east. Also, most of northern Chile is a desert and the south is very cold (it's very close to Antarctica). The fertile land with good weather is in the middle of the country, there's not a lot of it, and almost the entire population lives there.

 

[sailingaway]

I'm not reading this closely, just glancing here and there, is this reading like a commune to anyone?

In the last couple of months our team has focused on expanding GGC to include numerous surrounding parcels of land. We are very excited to announce that GGC will now have its very own organic working farm with over 50 deep fresh water wells, registered water rights of over 750 liters per second of fresh mineral-rich natural spring water, private on-grid power, paved roads, rolling hills, majestic mountains and miles of natural beauty! With this massive supply of fresh water, we are eagerly planning out numerous lakes ranging in size from fishing ponds up to large recreational lakes for organic fish farms, kayaking, boating and more!

wouldn't everyone be free to have their own wells and grow their own food?

 

[Debbie Downer]

I'm not reading this closely, just glancing here and there, is this reading like a commune to anyone?

wouldn't everyone be free to have their own wells and grow their own food?

You'd probably have to buy the water rights. In most countries in Latin America when you buy property you basically only buy the land but nothing below a couple inches. The land, water rights, and mineral rights, oil rights are generally all separate.

 

[idiom]

If the government knows where it is, what is the point?

 

[Matthew5]

Still under Chilean authority, or did I miss something? Seems like some time share scheme. I'd rather invest in Seasteading before dropping a dime with this.

True independence is key.

 

[Debbie Downer]

Still under Chilean authority, or did I miss something? Seems like some time share scheme. I'd rather invest in Seasteading before dropping a dime with this.

True independence is key.

You should ask AF how free the sea is.

 

[Boss]

Announced to the world?

Have they even read Atlas Shrugged?

This.

 

[sailingaway]

You'd probably have to buy the water rights. In most countries in Latin America when you buy property you basically only buy the land but nothing below a couple inches. The land, water rights, and mineral rights, oil rights are generally all separate.

Yeah, but they have some. So would they become rights of people who own the land to drill to water or would they 'privately' own all water rights and have a monopoly over water and food in the area? One sounds more free than the other, to me, is all.

 

[Demigod]

Still under Chilean authority, or did I miss something? Seems like some time share scheme. I'd rather invest in Seasteading before dropping a dime with this.

True independence is key.

Unless you have a few billion dollars,and the place is uninhabited there is no way you could buy a land and be given sovereignty.And even if you get the country who claims the land to give it up for money ( which will be hard as hell because I don't think a lot of governments that can survive such a thing ) you would then have to be recognized by other countries as well and get in the UN.You would need diplomats,an army and all of that costs a lot of money.

You would have a lot less work to get a region in your country to be autonomous and then claim back rights from the central government with time sooner or later every government goes weak and then you split from it.At least that is how it is done in Europe.

Countries are in 99,9% of the cases founded in blood and steel,almost never in gold.

 

[Matthew5]

Unless you have a few billion dollars,and the place is uninhabited there is no way you could buy a land and be given sovereignty.And even if you get the country who claims the land to give it up for money ( which will be hard as hell because I don't think a lot of governments that can survive such a thing ) you would then have to be recognized by other countries as well and get in the UN.You would need diplomats,an army and all of that costs a lot of money.

You would have a lot less work to get a region in your country to be autonomous and then claim back rights from the central government with time sooner or later every government goes weak and then you split from it.At least that is how it is done in Europe.

Countries are in 99,9% of the cases founded in blood and steel,almost never in gold.

That's the rub. A government owns most of the land mass on earth, so how do you create a free society that operates under the state (not even minarchists states really exist)?

 

[Demigod]

That's the rub. A government owns most of the land mass on earth, so how do you create a free society that operates under the state (not even minarchists states really exist)?

As I said in the other post countries are always founded in blood and steel and no other way.It has always been so,and always will be.If you want a free society CLAIM IT because it sure as hell no one will give it to you or sell it to you.And if he says he is,it is probably a trap.

 

[69360]

Seems pyramid schemey. The point of GG was nobody knows where you went...

 

[idiom]

Seems pyramid schemey. The point of GG was nobody knows where you went...

And was invite only. Whats to stop people running to this site with pockets full of bailout money?