Front page of DRUDGE REPORT: McCain's elligibility comes into question...

[Jodi's mom]

Alert!!!!

Now...let's do something constructive!! I am posting an alert here and on a new thread to help get the votes out in Texas for Ron AND Mike. A vote for either one of them is a vote against McCain. Are you game??

Here's the scoop:

Sledgehammer Alert for Ron Paul supporters

Ron Paul needs your support in Texas!!

The RNC/GOP machine is dumping mega bucks into defeating Ron Paul in the TX primary; they want to take his Congressional seat away from him and they want him defeated in the Congressional primary, so they funded a rino challenger.

We need to defeat McCain in TX, otherwise he will have the delegates for the GOP nomination. Right now in TX, Huckabee supporters are working with Ron Paul supporters to GOTV to defeat McCain.

We have to defeat McCain in Texas and Ohio to keep Ron Paul on the ticket!
If we don't pull this off, it's over.

Are you ready??

Call Robert Morrow anytime before midnight for the numbers to call. Email him and volunteer the time you can work Saturday, Sunday and Monday. He will email you the telephone numbers and a script.

It is critical that we get the vote out for Ron this weekend!! We've needed a miracle, folks! and this may just be it.

Please email Robert Morrow:

[email protected]

Or call before midnight 512 306-1510

We will be making the calls Saturday, Sunday and Monday. So start your calls to Robert now and tell him "Jodi and Jodi's mom sent you!"

Let's roll!!!!!

 

[leonster]

The 14th Amendment also says "all persons born or naturalized in the United States..." - does that not seem to make it clear what the Constitution says about the issue?

Either you are born here...

Or you're naturalized, the opposite of natural born.

You can be naturalized in different ways--automatically by being born to American parents, automatically by being adopted by American parents, by marriage to an American and subsequent time living in the US on visa, by time living here on valid working visa, etc. etc... but they're not the same as being born in the US.

The 14th Amendment is pretty clear on that one.

 

[JordanQ72]

You can be naturalized in different ways--automatically by being born to American parents

Wrong. There is no such thing as a naturalized at birth citizen. Get a dictionary dummy.

Being a natural born citizen means you were born a citizen, as opposed to NOT being born a citizen, and later NATURALIZED a citizen.

 

[GHoeberX]

Wow . I might have to eat my harsh words towards some of you guys for being irritated about this being brought up so much.

Told ya Nah; it's just a very complicated situation, since it's never been tested before. But I think it's most likely that the Supreme Court will declare McCain 'natural born'.

 

[leonster]

Wrong. There is no such thing as a naturalized at birth citizen. Get a dictionary dummy.

Being a natural born citizen means you were born a citizen, as opposed to NOT being born a citizen, and later NATURALIZED a citizen.

But the implication seems VERY clear in the 14th amendment:

"born or naturalized in the United States"...

Which would mean either you are born IN the United States, or naturalized.

And sure there's such a thing as naturalized at birth, or VERY close to it. When parents adopt a child who was born to a non-US citizen, even if he's only an hour or two old, he's automatically naturalized. If there's an agreement in place that the parents adopt him at birth, then he's naturalized at birth.



Also note that if you are a US parent who has a child overseas, you have to do certain paperwork to register that child as a citizen. That seems like a naturalization procedure, does it not?

 

[pmbug]

Anyone here know if McCain holds dual citizenship with Panama? (ie. does he have Panamanian citizenship?)

 

[acptulsa]

The Fourteenth Amendment doesn't apply. It does nothing to affect requirements for the presidency except outlaw rebels or insurrectionists from holding the office. No statute does, either--the Constitution automatically trumps them.

 

[acptulsa]

This is funny. It's a set of sample sentences from the citizenry English language test. Their interpretation of the eligibility clause is certainly clear enough!

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/us...nnel=11616c854523d010VgnVCM10000048f3d6a1RCRD

 

[Bruno]

FYI - this was news again just now on ABC News on the radio due to the fact that the Congress is passing a bi-partisan resolution to say that they agree McCain is eligible.

 

[thedemoboy]

Resolutions are no substitution for constitutional amendments.