From the Huckabee forums on Ron Paul's performance on the debate

[SteveMartin]

Yea, but let's NEVER suggest Huckabee as a potential running mate. His appearance (and article) for the Council on Foreign Relations means he now has the full neocon stamp of approval. They would just whack Ron the first day he was in office, and put their little deceiver in his place with one bullet.

 

[ForTheRevolution]

I see Huck as a great minister, but not a great president. He has some good jokes to keep the congregation awake, but really needs to study history and the constitution more before he should be making a run for the presidency.

Kudos to the Huck forum people for recognizing how shotty FOX News is and the unfair treatment they give to particular candidates at particular times.

 

[LukeNM]

Watch out -- Huckabee is the man we have to beat! They are the enemy so do not be sympathizers of their campaign or you will be labeled an operative…

 

[mortepa]

I think Huckabee's supporters are the closest to us. Most are evangelicals who are attracted to the God's talk by Huckabee. But if they were to really think hard, Ron Paul is the best follower of Jesus' true message, a truly humble man, who is not self-righteous, and who truly believes and follows the golden rule.

I think Thompson is even more like Ron, other than the CFR, mild 2nd amendment support, and foreign policy...but I can see what you are saying too.

I suspect that if Thompson and Huckabee were to suddenly drop out, Ron would be an instant front-runner.

 

[Hurricane Bruiser]

I think Huck might make a good VP some day.. depending on how things shake out.

Or the other way around depending on how things shake out.

My rank of Republicans:

Rudy: War Monger, fascist, gun grabber, loves prosecuting. HORRIBLE

McCain: No respect for 1st Amendment, little for 2nd, war monger, nanny state regulations. HORRIBLE

Romney: legislate Morality, somewhat war monger, Mass. healthcare mandatory nationwide it seems. HORRIBLE

Thompson: Not too bad on many issues except foreign policy and possible morality enforcer, needs to wake up. NOT TOO BAD

Huckabee: Opposed school vouchers because the government would have too many strings attached, strong 2nd amendment, perhaps legislate morality, open to killing the IRS, raised taxes but also cut other taxes that were worse. Has also critized Bush on foreign policy, keeps stealing Ron Paul's talking points on some issues. SOME NEGATIVES BUT 2ND FAVORITE

Ron Paul: Obvious favorite for MANY reasons.

 

[Gimme Some Truth]

Hucks Army make me laugh.

THey moan about "Ron Paul spammers" , then call for people to spam the polls for Huckabee

They moan about Frank Luntz's (f**k you frank!) focus group and how its fixed and then start praising it because they gave Huckabee the highest mark for his "gates of hell" comment about Iran.


Apart from that they are probably more intelligent and like-able than your typical neocon supporter. Tho the owner/admin guy who plays the victim all the time and puts up open letters to RP supporters is annoying.

 

[Gimme Some Truth]

Or the other way around depending on how things shake out.

My rank of Republicans:

Rudy: War Monger, fascist, gun grabber, loves prosecuting. HORRIBLE

McCain: No respect for 1st Amendment, little for 2nd, war monger, nanny state regulations. HORRIBLE

Romney: legislate Morality, somewhat war monger, Mass. healthcare mandatory nationwide it seems. HORRIBLE

Thompson: Not too bad on many issues except foreign policy and possible morality enforcer, needs to wake up. NOT TOO BAD

Huckabee: Opposed school vouchers because the government would have too many strings attached, strong 2nd amendment, perhaps legislate morality, open to killing the IRS, raised taxes but also cut other taxes that were worse. Has also critized Bush on foreign policy, keeps stealing Ron Paul's talking points on some issues. SOME NEGATIVES BUT 2ND FAVORITE

Ron Paul: Obvious favorite for MANY reasons.

Its funny how you have the candidates setup because that is exactly how the MSM etc want the outcome of the primaries to be (from top to bottom)

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[Caravello]

On the religion issue, for me a simple explanation would always do the trick:

For example, a judge can believe that stealing is morally wrong but still be a fair judge in a shoplifting case, right?

Why can't religious folk start using that same logic? and explain how they can separate their religious beliefs from their job as an executive? It makes perfect sense.

 

[mikeInAZ]

Ya know, it's refreshing to hear. Very refreshing.

 

[dshields]

I've read the entire thread and have found that assertion to be false.

Agreed, this is more of an "Olive Branch" Thread to the Huck supporters.

Think of this as Ron Paul Foreign Policy lol

Dave

 

[VoluntaryMan]

Some of the comments over there from Huckabee's supporters are quite fair. Here's what some of them said on the electability question:





(I think that was just after the question to Huckabee on the biblical verse)

Immigration:



After the debate:

Do you have a link for that? I think that might be the "fake" forum.

 

[acptulsa]

I like some of Huck's views as well. His Fair Tax attracted me several months ago, but then I found Ron and Ron fits my small government views as well. It's good their supporters see the unfairness. I wonder if we would be around 20% if Huck wasn't in the race?

No, we certainly would not. Dr. Paul was too well known to the establishment (new world order) before. Huckabee is starting to look like a Godsend. Sure wouldn't have thought that yesterday.

 

[acptulsa]

Ron Paul is seen as a dead man walking. that's why he was allowed into the SC debate. it was also so FOX could re-stake their reputation by appearing magnanimous. all the while, the moderators were insolent and dismissive.

Dr. Paul was not allowed into the debate because he's seen as a dead man walking. He was let into the debate because of us bloggers; because of a real journalist and great American named Bill Moyers; and because Jay Leno, an entertainer, either picked up on the fact that people are tired of being dictated to by the MSM in general and Faux in particular and needed help because of the writer strike, is very patriotic, or both.

There may be times that we feel like we're pissing in the wind, but I was arguing for the Libertarian Party in 1988 and writing letters to editors, and I know what pissing in the wind is really like.

The moderators were insolent and dismissive in a last-ditch attempt to paint a tinfoil hat on the doctor's head and our heads. It seems to have turned the corner--the tinfoil won't stick.

After fighting for years to educate a public that didn't want to see the problem, I am stunned and amazed. You guys and gals are bringing tears to my eyes. Remember, as one who has been at it since before some of you were born, to use concrete examples, try in advance to come up with short, sweet, simple points on as many issues as you can, and always be respectful to your audience!

Now if we could just teach Dr. Paul how to do short, sweet, simple thirty second sound bites!

 

[eyeswideopen]

I think Huck might make a good VP some day.. depending on how things shake out.

I couldn’t finish reading this thread ( got to page 3) when I started to see some ‘Huck love’ going on. Let me be very clear people, there is nothing good about Huckabee. He was my governor. I know him first hand. I was constantly calling him “Little Bush” during his terms as governor.

Ask him about his history with the Freedom of Information Act. He simply would reply with “No, I will not release that information. Sue me” if he had the kahunas to be honest. Also, you’ve heard him called Tax Hike Mike. Let me make that even clearer for you. When he left office there was a surplus of around 384 MILLION dollars. That money has never been returned – nor will it be.

Arkansas is one of the poorest states and one of the states with the highest taxes. Please do not be fooled by this charlatan. Nothing good would come out of Huck holding any kind of office.

 

[mdevour]

What would a Ron Paul presidency bring?

I mean really; what would a Ron Paul presidency bring except peace, security, a complete check, and freedom to live according to your own conscience!

Disciple, I hope and pray that we'll see more peace, security, income, and freedom, but I cannot for a moment envision a paradisaical administration for Ron Paul. So your saying "what would [it] bring except..." was very uncomfortable for me to read...

Figuratively speaking, we are going to have to claw our way over broken glass and hot coals to achieve victory. The entrenched powers will not give up... ever! Even if Ron Paul achieves a landslide, they will continue plotting their return to domination over us.

Even a "landslide" victory would leave us a minority, struggling against the tide of apathy, mediocrity, and amoral greed ascendant in our culture.

I don't see Dr. Paul's humble foreign policy sparing us from war, even if it means Congress has to declare it outright, for once. I don't see us escaping terrorist attacks, natural disasters, or continuous harassment from the media jackals.

The rewards that will come with victory are more than enough to motivate us to tireless effort, but we dare not think our road gets easy if we win. It will be only the first stop on our journey.

Peace,

Mike D.

 

[Thomas Paine]

This Resistance Movement has only just begun and will long outlive Ron Paul!

 

[Mithridates]

Do you have a link for that? I think that might be the "fake" forum.

Yeah, the link's on page 4 of this thread. Don't worry, it wasn't the fake forums.

 

[Paulbot_9876]

Fox News : " Who cares what they stand for, lets talk about Hillary's emotional meltdown and OH McCain wants to follow them to the gates of Hell!!"

maybe mccain can strap a bomb on and follow them there...lets see if he is true to his word....mwaahahaahaaa

 

[Paulbot_9876]

Ron Paul is seen as a dead man walking. that's why he was allowed into the SC debate. it was also so FOX could re-stake their reputation by appearing magnanimous. all the while, the moderators were insolent and dismissive.

the other candidates are playing for Ron Paul's supporters. most notably is Huckabee. he needs to draw the liberals and conservatives alike, since he is more or less a Democrat but a CHRISTIAN one, to convince the GOP he can break out from his limited base. he has no shame when it comes to blatantly stealing ideas, since he is betting Ron Paul will go away.

I can't say that I blame him or FOX for thinking that after the failures in IA and NH. sure, it's only two states, but Ron Paul has been attacked from all sides since the get go. no one believes Rudy will pull through on Super Tuesday, either, and he was the favorite.

Ron Paul did well by distinguishing himself on the economy and foreign policy, by standing up to his attackers, making him a strong and sympathetic character. anyone would give credit to his analysis of the Israeli - Palestinian situation. he sounded sane and informed, dispelling any rumors of antisemitism. that's the big gripe the CEC's have with Ron Paul. he may have bought himself sometime, though I suspect another fifth place finish in SC.

fox news is going to self destruct......we see this in their stock and the people who watch their garbage sees that they are garbage the way they treat people....
some people do like to hear all side of the story and can do without the attacks...they are self destructing......

 

[Carole]

If Huckabee has to drop out along the way, should we not be hoping to win many of them over to our side?