Free and Open Challenge to Atheists

That's like saying that the bass in UK dance records isn't a sound, but a sinewave at a frequency below 100 hz.
So? His statement about color and yours about sound are both true. Scientists who study acoustics and sound describe things like bass lines in terms of frequencies. The issue timbre and "notes" is artistic, not scientific.
 
Blue isnt a color, it is a wavelength. However, that is measurable, and interactions and expected outcomes can be predicted.

Since this is an old thread started with the intention of starting a flame war on both sides, and the OP is already banned, people should just let this thread lay dead.
This ^^ I am formally excusing myself from this thread. Y'all can keep flaming each other.
 
Blue isnt a color, it is a wavelength. However, that is measurable, and interactions and expected outcomes can be predicted.

Since this is an old thread started with the intention of starting a flame war on both sides, and the OP is already banned, people should just let this thread lay dead.

This post isn't nearly as bad as relics existing in the days when ol' TruthWarrior, Theocrat, and I would go at...
 
So? His statement about color and yours about sound are both true. Scientists who study acoustics and sound describe things like bass lines in terms of frequencies. The issue timbre and "notes" is artistic, not scientific.

Just because blue is light with a certain fundamental frequency doesn't mean.. it's not a color. It merely explains how the color blue exists. It's just his attempt sounding smart. I can hear a sinewave playing at 82 hz, it's a sound. I can see the name 'LawnWake' next to my post, it's colored blue, I can see it. So, uhh, yeah, it's a color. The fact that one is made of a sinewave at 82 hz and the other is light at a frequency between 440 and 490 hz doesn't make it less of a sound or a color. It only explains how it's there.
 
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I don't really know if I'm allowed to respond or not because the I was banned for a week (and also banned from the chat room) for some unknown reason.

I don't really know if I injured the moderators' emotions or something or if they just don't want me to criticize atheistic arguments so I won't respond until I know what I'm allowed to criticize without getting banned.

If the moderators don't want me to criticize atheistic beliefs or atheistic arguments or whatever they should just say so and let everyone know that this is just like an atheist fan site forum where atheistic beliefs and arguments receive special protection from criticism and scrutiny and the moderators all take the anti-science position of protecting atheistic arguments from criticism and scrutiny.

It doesn't really bother me though I already defeated all atheistic arguments with no problem.

If the moderators don't want me to criticize atheistic arguments or beliefs then they should just let me know, until I know I'll just remain silent in opposition to atheistic arguments.
 
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You did not defeat us athiests. We just found something more worthy of our attention, like getting Ron Paul to be President, getting off our asses (both sides), and volunteering at Ron Paul Call Centers. Well, all that, or thanksgiving and annoying family members...

Seriously, this thread is nothing more than a Hate Magnet waiting to Explode. It needs to be CLOSED.
 
I don't really know if I'm allowed to respond or not because the I was banned for a week (and also banned from the chat room) for some unknown reason.

I don't really know if I injured the moderators' emotions or something or if they just don't want me to criticize atheistic arguments so I won't respond until I know what I'm allowed to criticize without getting banned.

If the moderators don't want me to criticize atheistic beliefs or atheistic arguments or whatever they should just say so and let everyone know that this is just like an atheist fan site forum where atheistic beliefs and arguments receive special protection from criticism and scrutiny and the moderators all take the anti-science position of protecting atheistic arguments from criticism and scrutiny.

It doesn't really bother me though I already defeated all atheistic arguments with no problem.

If the moderators don't want me to criticize atheistic arguments or beliefs then they should just let me know, until I know I'll just remain silent in opposition to atheistic arguments.

I'm against censorship in all forms, especially if you are in disagreement with me. I'm not at all sure why you were banned/censored, and I would really like to know.
 
I got in a very heated argument (via email) with a good friend a few years back. It was about politics, actually - the leadup for attacking Afghanistan - but I place politics and religion in the same boat.

Bottom line - I lost a good friend.

Talking to an older gentleman about the argument and the results, he said a very wise thing, "I never discuss politics or religion with people I really care about. They have their beliefs, and I've got mine. So be it."

There is nothing you can say that is going to change my *beliefs* - and I am certain there is nothing I can say that will change yours.

Live by example and learn from experience.

Watch my feet, not my mouth.
 
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