FRAUD against all Ron Paul Supporters *Please Read*

[RonPaul765]

This is an Emergency that we all need to be aware of.

Please see http://ronpaulchat.net/investment.html

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Here is the the site that wants to take your money. http://breakthematrix.com/

Folks these people want you to buy their stocks and in return you recieve nothing. This is not a joke please help spread the word about this fraud that is being used against all of us Ron Paul supporters...

 

[Bruno]

Who to believe, folks? Can anyone verify this?

 

[RonPaul765]

Who to believe, folks? Can anyone verify this?

I know what you mean Bruno, but as the article states please put the puzzle together and you will see what this is really about...

 

[jillian]

i'm not sure if i believe that

 

[FreeTraveler]

This is simply one bad businessman attacking another business to build his own. If you don't care to participate in a business, you don't have to.

However, after reading this article, RonPaulRacing will never receive a penny from me for attacking another business with underhanded tactics. If I owned RPF, I would ban those promoting RonPaulRacing for this attack on fellow supporters.

 

[jillian]

This is simply one bad businessman attacking another business to build his own. If you don't care to participate in a business, you don't have to.

However, after reading this article, RonPaulRacing will never receive a penny from me for attacking another business with underhanded tactics. If I owned RPF, I would ban those promoting RonPaulRacing for this attack on fellow supporters.

i think you may be right

what a shame.

 

[Commander Yo]

I agree its uncool to attack fellow business men based on your assumptions and not real facts. And then to go promote your thing, that is totally weak.

Lyman did so much for The Revolution. He and his partner have identified a huge need in America, a need for another form of media not driven by massive corporations and political agendas. A new media source that will pull from the growing vitality of non-traditional media forms to deliver important content to an information deprived nation.

Will breakthematirx.com work, that is for the market to determine. Are there pitfalls to "investing" yes, but don't call it fraud without basis.

 

[ronpaulblogsdotcom]

How nice that this person is able to criticize a business that they see as a competitor. And try to hype their own business interests. $500 an hour is not really outrageous for a lawyer. Its on the high side but not totally outrageous. Maybe the lawyer was expecting to be sued bythe FEC. Maybe they werent billing all hours. Who knows?

Strangely I think the type of person that would invest in an IPO in a new media company is totally different than one that would invest in a Nascar Race Car. I might be wrong though, it wouldnt be the first time.

 

[AgentOrange]

Well, I think the Ron Paul Racing idea is not worth the money, but I don't see anything wrong with him speaking his mind. Ron Paul stands for freedom of speech, we don't have to pretend to like each other's ideas, just because we are all Ron Paul supporters. I think the call to ban RPR are anti-freedom. People should vote for the business of their choice with their money (or for both businesses or neither business if they choose.)

 

[WilliamC]

I never donated a dime to the blimp but I never ridiculed those who supported it either.

Just so long as folks are honest about what they are doing more power to them.

 

[Agent CSL]

That's .... First thing I noticed about this page is him saying "I'm going to surmise that the MLK day bomb was put fourth to maximize the email database of one opportunist promoter"; and then on the bottom "Our goal is to build a database of 1 million freedom loving revolutionaires to be able to take action when the cause is GREAT."

Big red flag! Hypocrite alert!

There's risks in the media network and the article seems half right. But.. Ron Paul racing..Really?... Really? .. I never trusted that Ron Paul racing to begin with, and he's promoting it after smearing some other business. This is putting up even more red flags to me.

He might be right, might be wrong.. I think the safest way to be is to hold onto your money and only donate it to the official campaign.

 

[Mini-Me]

That's .... First thing I noticed about this page is him saying "I'm going to surmise that the MLK day bomb was put fourth to maximize the email database of one opportunist promoter"; and then on the bottom "Our goal is to build a database of 1 million freedom loving revolutionaires to be able to take action when the cause is GREAT."

Big red flag! Hypocrite alert!

There's risks in the media network and the article seems half right. But.. Ron Paul racing..Really?... Really? .. I never trusted that Ron Paul racing to begin with, and he's promoting it after smearing some other business. This is putting up even more red flags to me.

He might be right, might be wrong.. I think the safest way to be is to hold onto your money and only donate it to the official campaign.

While I myself donated to the blimp, I think AgentCSL's last comment is worth repeating. I have no idea how legit RonPaulRacing is...if it is legit, I personally think it's a good idea, but that's just me. However...unless you're already maxed out and can't contribute to the official campaign at all, a safer bet might be to donate to the official campaign and then write a letter explaining how you think a NASCAR deal might be a good idea. I'm not trying to derail a grassroots project here...it's just, well...as inefficient as the official campaign seems to have been, donating to grassroots projects is very risky business unless there's some proof of legitimacy (and there might be - I haven't kept up with the RonPaulRacing stuff, myself - so don't take my post as a claim that it's a scam, either).

 

[Cleaner44]

What a joke. BreakTheMatrix may or may not succeed but there is nothing wrong with creating a new business. Many people want to devote more time to our revolution but money is needed. A person can either work a job and participate in the revolution in their spare time or they can create a business and try to do both, make money and restore our Republic.

We are all free to invest as we see fit. As long as there is no FRAUD going on, then I have no problem with BreakTheMatrix.

It seems to me that this Emergency is a bunch of bullshit.

 

[Cleaner44]

This is an Emergency that we all need to be aware of.

Please see http://ronpaulchat.net/investment.html

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Here is the the site that wants to take your money. http://breakthematrix.com/

Folks these people want you to buy their stocks and in return you recieve nothing. This is not a joke please help spread the word about this fraud that is being used against all of us Ron Paul supporters...

I think this says it all:

Disclaimer: The following is the ideas and thought process of one person. This is not a distribution of any fact whatsoever. There is no proof whatsoever for the accusations and assertions contained within.

 

[QWE]

I thought the blimp was a horrible idea. Ronpaulracing is a horrible idea. It's a huge waste of money reaching very few people who will actually care.

I'd support breakthematrix.com simply because their IDEA is better. I don't care who's trying to be the better businessman (hint: attacking another doesn't help), but who has a more worthwhile cause. In the long-run, if breakthematrix succeeds it will achieve MUCH more than Ronpaulracing....

 

[integrity]

I wont invest in Break the Matrix for one reason: The majority of controlling interest shares are owned by one or two people.

a truely free-thought media should be controlled by a board of investors, the more the merrier. I suggested in another post to not allow any one person to own more than .1 % of the shares of stock.

 

[Cowlesy]

I have a real problem with someone bashing a different venture idea, asking for money, and then not signing their name to their accusations and appeal.

 

[Madsci30]

I was weary as soon as I read on the site that they would own over 50% off the company. That is not what we need..... we need the people to own more than 50% of the media company. End of story.

 

[nobody's_hero]

This is simply one bad businessman attacking another business to build his own. If you don't care to participate in a business, you don't have to.

However, after reading this article, RonPaulRacing will never receive a penny from me for attacking another business with underhanded tactics. If I owned RPF, I would ban those promoting RonPaulRacing for this attack on fellow supporters.

Umm. I'm lost. What does ron paul racing have to do with this?

 

[IM2L844]

This is an Emergency that we all need to be aware of.

Please see http://ronpaulchat.net/investment.html

Here is the the site that wants to take your money. http://breakthematrix.com/

Folks these people want you to buy their stocks and in return you recieve nothing. This is not a joke please help spread the word about this fraud that is being used against all of us Ron Paul supporters...

This is utter nonsense. Chris (School_Of_Hard_Knocks) from ronpaulchat.net thinks he has a bone to pick for some reason.

The facts are:

1) Rick Williams and Trevor Lyman may have done more for this campaign than just about anyone else...Certainly more than Chris with his little home page with some links and his little FREE java based chat room from freejavachat.com.

2) To Date, they have not asked for a penny or a pledge for a penny and have plainly stated they would refuse any such offers at this time. The only thing they have done is to try and find out who might be interested in investing IN THE FUTURE!

3) an Initial Public Offering (IPO) is not an inherently evil thing. Microsoft and Google as well as many other succesful company's all had IPO's. If you had got in on the ground floor of those IPO's, who knows...Yes, it's risky. Yes, do your homework. Yes, it's a good rule of thumb to never invest more than you can afford to lose, but it's likely going to be a better investment than donating to ronpaulchat.net.

4) Any honest webmaster can tell you that it takes less than 20 bucks per month to get a domain name and purchase a website with unlimited storage and unlimited bandwidth. Furthermore, the amount of work that would go into operating a tiny website like Chris's (School_Of_Hard_Knocks) would be next to nothing. Still he pleads for donations and/or pledges of donations for $20, $50 and even $100 per month to to pay for all his hard work and to help defer all his expenses. IT'S A BLATANT FABRICATION. THERE ARE NO EXPENSES WORTH MENTIONING AND THERE IS DEFINITELY NOT A LOT OF HARD WORK INVOLVED.

It's people like Chris who are the real scammers!