Frank Luntz says Ron Paul should not mention liberty as much

Apologies Op, but I think I'm going to have to 1 star this thread. I just don't think there's anything to learn from this.
 
Luntz is definitely a scumbag, but a talented scumbag. On this point, I agree with him.
 
He's not talented @ all.
Oh, when the public is dumb, Frank absolutely is talented. Successfully rebranding the estate tax as a death tax is a great move. Rebranding global warming as climate change is another great move.
 
Luntz is probably correct. Paul would've done better in the debates if he had not used "Liberty" as much, but I doubt the difference would've been significant.

Liberty by itself is a fairly meaningless word for many, it's much better when you couple it with other words such as "peronal liberty" or "economic liberty", altough even here "personal freedom" and "economic freedom" would work better.
 
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The language spin is what neocons and 9/12 ers have adopted from the Luntz trained msm types to dumb down discussion in other platforms such as forums and every day speak among as well as in the direction of the otherwise unsuspecting.


NEVER SAY: Privatization/Private Accounts
INSTEAD SAY: Personalization/Personal Accounts

NEVER SAY: Government
INSTEAD SAY: Washington

NEVER SAY: Tax Reform
INSTEAD SAY: Tax Simplification

NEVER SAY: Inheritance/Estate Tax
INSTEAD SAY: The Death Tax

NEVER SAY: Global Economy/Globalization/Capitalism
INSTEAD SAY: Free Market Economy

NEVER SAY: Outsourcing
INSTEAD SAY: Taxation, Regulation, Litigation, Innovation, Education

NEVER SAY: Undocumented Workers
INSTEAD SAY: Illegal Aliens

NEVER SAY: Foreign Trade
INSTEAD SAY: International Trade

NEVER SAY: Drilling for oil
INSTEAD SAY: Exploring for energy

NEVER SAY: Tort Reform
INSTEAD SAY: Lawsuit Abuse Reform


NEVER SAY: Trial Lawyer
INSTEAD SAY: Personal Injury Lawyer

NEVER SAY: Corporate Transparency
INSTEAD SAY: Corporate Accountability

NEVER SAY: School Choice
INSTEAD SAY: Parental Choice/Equal Opportunity in Education

NEVER SAY: Healthcare "Choice”
INSTEAD SAY: "The Right to Choose"

In other words, refrain from condoning critical thought at all cost...


 
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So you are making your opinion based off nothing. Some people here amaze me refusing to every be fair, honest or even take something by itself or its worth. You automatically discredit anything he says and you don't even watch the video.

You are no better than people that make their opinion about Ron Paul having a flawed foreign policy without having listened to him in any length talk about it.

Seriously, it is unintelligent.

The world is full of people like this. The unintelligent run the world.
 
There's also the connection liberty seems to have with libertarian, which some have negative connotation to. Yeah, I think freedom is much better.
 
Nah, Natural Citizen, illegal aliens were always called illegal aliens. "Undocumented workers" came with political correctness.
 
He's not talented @ all.

Oh yes he is. I'd love for him to be an advisor to the campaign. I'd bet he would have some great ideas for how to improve Paul's image with Republicans.

Keep your friends close. Keep your enemies closer.
 
omg I watched it. Happy now? I stand corrected. Frank Luntz is not smart at all. He's a bullshitter.

And he gets PAID for it.

Sigh.

Frank Luntz is what's wrong with America, right along with the people who fall for his machinations.
 
Liberty is the opposite of tyranny

Freedom is the opposite of slavery

tyranny = slavery

Liberty = Freedom
 
Frank must be smart and good at what he does. He is on TV for FFS. We should listen to him!!!! :p
 
Mr. Climate Change said what about liberty?

Okay, we'll start using freedom more (Ron already says legalize freedom all the time, Luntz must have lissed that) and start racking up more delegates.
 
Relax. He was merely giving his opinion. No need to call him scumbag.

Agreed. We can learn from everybody. We are better than calling people names. Lets point out where he has done wrong and not name call too much even though it is extremely tempting :)
 
omg I watched it. Happy now? I stand corrected. Frank Luntz is not smart at all. He's a bullshitter.

And, like it or not, the American public buys into the bullshit and he knows that and that's why he knows how to phrase things to get the most positive impact. It's amazing how a simple turn of a phrase can give you a negative or positive view of the subject matter.
 
There is nothing wrong with stealing method but not message from people like Luntz and Rove. They win.
 
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