Fox News National Poll: Rand Paul at 2%

[dusman]

[TABLE="width: 500"]
[TR]
[TD]Donald Trump[/TD]
[TD]28%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Ben Carson[/TD]
[TD]18%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Ted Cruz[/TD]
[TD]14%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Marco Rubio[/TD]
[TD]14%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Jeb Bush[/TD]
[TD]5%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Mike Huckabee[/TD]
[TD]3%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Carly Fiorina[/TD]
[TD]3%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Chris Christie[/TD]
[TD]3%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]John Kasich[/TD]
[TD]2%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Rand Paul[/TD]
[TD]2%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]George Pataki[/TD]
[TD]1%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Lindsey Graham[/TD]
[TD]*[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Rick Santorum[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Jim Gilmore[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Other[/TD]
[TD]1%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]None of the Above[/TD]
[TD]1%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Don't Know[/TD]
[TD]5%[/TD]
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/interactive/2015/11/20/fox-news-poll-2016-matchups-syrian-refugees/

 

[chiefsmurph]

F You Frank

This one doesn't count. It's a Fox News Poll.
Margin of error: 25-100%

 

[01000110]

2. Which one of the following is the most important issue facing the country today?16-19 Nov 15 30 Jul-2 Aug 15
Terrorism
24% 11%

So they totally ignore the guy who wanted to declare war on ISIS. And they ignore the guy who has made it clear why we have the ISIS mess to begin with.

People are simply not paying attention and/or brainwashed.

 

[dusman]

I bet walking off stage at the next debate by Rand and saying they deserve Hillary Clinton in 2016 would be worth at least 5% in the polls. Or at least the media attention it'd bring.

 

[economics102]

Walking off stage is only a viable strategy of he isn't getting a fair shake, like at the 2nd debate.

Basically the perfect time to implement that tactic would be if he isn't getting a fair shake at the debates AND you feel confident the poll numbers aren't good enough to get you into the next debate.

 

[carlton]

Beginning to get VERY depressed... Rand's going to need a couple of 5's just to get back in.

 

[AngryCanadian]

Beginning to get VERY depressed... Rand's going to need a couple of 5's just to get back in.

The Republicans and this party that Trump is gaining the support from are idiots, morons, racists, Fat old angry middle low life class. Why is Trump doing so well? because his the one who speaks for the stupid.

They deserve Hillary and the GOP needs re brand itself. I am getting tired of seeing this pattern every four years. Time to turn off those radio stations.

 

[chronicaust]

If this is the best the GOP can do, we are hopeless.

 

[limequat]

Nothing new here.
Rand's low end has been 2% nationally for a while. He can still qualify for the next debate by averaging 4% in NH where he has been steadily trending up.

 

[dusman]

Beginning to get VERY depressed... Rand's going to need a couple of 5's just to get back in.

The CNN/ORC poll tends to be the best for Rand of all the others. Hopefully he pulls in a 6% showing.

It's starting to get to a point that all efforts are going to have to revolve simply around Iowa's youth vote. Mobilizing not only Rand youth supporters but also rallying the youth to protest vote republican policy. Perhaps that combined with a "Get out the Freak vote" like done in Aspen at the behest of Hunter S. Thompson.

I'd very much like to see Rand youth voters take up an idea like this:



Draw lines from every campus to Caucus locations with a call to protest the neocons in the GOP.

 

[Mr.NoSmile]

Yeah, that's some great momentum. Keep up the optimism over realism, people. We're all still very impressed.

 

[Liberty74]

Rand should go Indy. Just like I said Ron should have back in 2011/12. The media would then pay the fuck attention and the people would have a real option to vote for in a 2 way race.

Dem/Rep (same pile of shit) vs Indy Rand Paul

 

[carlton]

Rand should go Indy. Just like I said Ron should have back in 2011/12. The media would then pay the fuck attention and the people would have a real option to vote for in a 2 way race.

Dem/Rep (same pile of shit) vs Indy Rand Paul

I believe he should hold off on that option until 2020

 

[TomtheTinker]

How is Patiki have 1% and Rand had 2%. I'm bewildered

 

[dusman]

Rand should go Indy. Just like I said Ron should have back in 2011/12. The media would then pay the fuck attention and the people would have a real option to vote for in a 2 way race.

Dem/Rep (same pile of shit) vs Indy Rand Paul

Rand has long-term potential that is more important than 2016. An Indy run won't do much, except alienate GOP voters and put his Senate seat in real danger. I'd rather Rand not be President and stay in the Senate vs. Rand not be President and lose his seat. It comes down to what happens in Iowa though, really.

We have to stay the course this year. We cannot let polls reflect our commitment. So, that means even if Rand drops below 1%, we still commit to supporting him and influencing GOP voters closest to us. What we do this year matters in 2020 and 2024, although I know many here like to go the route of "See, told you so. Rand is nobody to be excited about."

To those people... time to thin the herd.

 

[TomtheTinker]

After this election I'm seriously thinking about bailing out of the R party.

 

[dusman]

After this election I'm seriously thinking about bailing out of the R party.

I think we can learn something from the Tea Party movement. One thing they did better than us was focusing on the message, instead of a particular candidate. Gotta stir up a new movement that lays a foundation for what we think the party should stand for. I understand where you are coming from, though. It's very frustrating.

 

[supermario21]

The Tea Party never had a message. It was a flavor of the day sort of thing. The # of Tea Party groups and "leaders" shows that. Trump claims to be a Tea Party guy and there are plenty of Tea Party people who support him, yet we also have TP influence and support. So what gives? Their advantage was the constant demagoguery they employed.

 

[limequat]

Rand has long-term potential that is more important than 2016. An Indy run won't do much, except alienate GOP voters and put his Senate seat in real danger. I'd rather Rand not be President and stay in the Senate vs. Rand not be President and lose his seat. It comes down to what happens in Iowa though, really.

We have to stay the course this year. We cannot let polls reflect our commitment. So, that means even if Rand drops below 1%, we still commit to supporting him and influencing GOP voters closest to us. What we do this year matters in 2020 and 2024, although I know many here like to go the route of "See, told you so. Rand is nobody to be excited about."

To those people... time to thin the herd.

This. Rand is our last best hope. All in for Iowa.

 

[brandon]

Same I might even do it before. Switch my registration to independent so I don't count as a statistic for any shitty party.

Edit: was trying to quote the guy who was bailing on the republicans