FOX News Admits Romney Cannot Win Without Ron Paul Supporters

[CaptUSA]

If Romney put Ron Paul as vice president you know somebody would go out there and kill Romney. Just so RP would be president.

Romney will never do it.

Yeah, I would be far more worried about the safety of Dr. Paul than I would about Romney. I think you are believing what some of the media is telling us about Ron Paul supporters. We're really not crazies...

 

[smithtg]

I've been doing battle off and on today on a Facebook friend's thread with what is apparently a bunch of Paul primary voters in Tennessee (I'm in CA) who are now adamant about voting for Romney. They don't want to continue down the road to socialism (LOL). The mantra is "NOBAMA." Also, they don't want to "waste" their vote on Gary Johnson. So it is, indeed, quite surreal and very frustrating. They are all simply duped into voting for the two-headed monster. So, it seems possible that there may be scores of Paul supporters in the primaries that will cast their vote for Mittens in November. Plus, Matt Larsen offers no evidence whatsoever that Mittens needs the entirety of the Paul primary voters to win in November.

too much fox news kool aid for those guys

they both are bought and paid for by the banks. Weimar here we come. Stock up on the guns and food fellas

 

[jkr]

NO!
RON cant win without THEM

IT IS ALL ON THEM

 

[Okie RP fan]

I've been doing battle off and on today on a Facebook friend's thread with what is apparently a bunch of Paul primary voters in Tennessee (I'm in CA) who are now adamant about voting for Romney. They don't want to continue down the road to socialism (LOL). The mantra is "NOBAMA." Also, they don't want to "waste" their vote on Gary Johnson. So it is, indeed, quite surreal and very frustrating. They are all simply duped into voting for the two-headed monster. So, it seems possible that there may be scores of Paul supporters in the primaries that will cast their vote for Mittens in November. Plus, Matt Larsen offers no evidence whatsoever that Mittens needs the entirety of the Paul primary voters to win in November.

I think every die hard is abstaining, writing in, or voting third party. That much we know.

However, I could easily see the case of much of our soft support going Romney because they really think he will slow down the damage that Obama is causing.

Little do they know...

That is why it's important that every Paul supporter seriously consider the other three options to Obamney: abstain, write in, third party. If all of us who voted in the primaries did this, it would be a major dent in many states. I've encouraged my parents (thus far, they may change their mind), who are soft support for Paul, to not vote in November. They don't like Romney, but, who knows what will happen between now and November that might make them change their minds?

 

[FSP-Rebel]

Clearly, they're trying to set us up as the fall guys for when R-money gets his clock cleaned. It won't stick because any conservative can see that R-money was the weakest candidate they could find based on exciting the base.

 

[ClydeCoulter]

Clearly, they're trying to set us up as the fall guys for when R-money gets his clock cleaned. It won't stick because any conservative can see that R-money was the weakest candidate they could find based on exciting the base.

Yes, they will do what they can to demonize us if/when R-money fails. We need to get out some bumper stickers if this occurs. Something like "Don't blame us, we wanted a conservate candidate, remember RP2012".

 

[jbauer]

I'm from TN and I'm not voting for RoMoney.

I've been doing battle off and on today on a Facebook friend's thread with what is apparently a bunch of Paul primary voters in Tennessee (I'm in CA) who are now adamant about voting for Romney. They don't want to continue down the road to socialism (LOL). The mantra is "NOBAMA." Also, they don't want to "waste" their vote on Gary Johnson. So it is, indeed, quite surreal and very frustrating. They are all simply duped into voting for the two-headed monster. So, it seems possible that there may be scores of Paul supporters in the primaries that will cast their vote for Mittens in November. Plus, Matt Larsen offers no evidence whatsoever that Mittens needs the entirety of the Paul primary voters to win in November.

 

[Brian Defferding]

Fark.com just linked this thread on their website, just a heads up. Says the first poster on their website regarding this forum:

That forum is hilarious.

It's concentrated self delusion.

...while not seeing the irony of posting on Fark.

 

[EBounding]

Most conservatives want Romney because they believe Obama is a Marxist who hates America and Romney is not. That may be true. But the results haven't been much different than the Bush years. Obamacare was upheld by a Bush SC Justice. That was the whole reason conservatives were motivated to vote for Bush in '04 simply to have people on the court to stop a law like Obamacare. And then the punchline to the bad joke is that we're supposed to rally behind the first governor to implement universal health insurance.

The fact that we survived 4 years of Obama (and 8 years of Bush), proves that the system still has enough firewalls to prevent the complete loss of our freedoms and full implementation of the President's agenda. Even if Obama is truly evil, he hasn't been able to implement his full agenda. So the real crime is giving our consent to Romney to continue his big government record.

There's no point in arguing this to them though. I just smile and nod when they say we need to "unite" around Romney to beat Obama. Because even if we "united", Romney still needs to win the undecided independents. What can we possibly say to convince them to vote Romney over Obama?

 

[Liberty74]

So they ostracized us for 5 or 6 years now, called us all kinds of terrible names, and now want us to vote for their guy.

Brilliant, they are.

Gary Johnson 2012

They aren't getting my vote at the national level. These neocons should have thought about their lies and smears against Ron before opening up their mouths and launching a nuclear attack against him and us. We are the real deal, not flip flopping self admitted Progressive Mittens. Now they are stuck with a leftist with a "R" after his name.

A vote for Romney is a vote for Obama.

 

[anaconda]

Lol, who can they pick to get us to vote for Romney? I wouldn't vote for Romney if Ron Paul was his running mate...

I would not vote for that ticket, either.

 

[anaconda]

I want to say that I wouldn't vote for Romney/Ron Paul ticket, but the truth is that I probably would. Ron Paul as an opposition VP voting NO on everything, with the President's ear is a lot better than Ron Paul as a retired Congressman.

I believe this would still qualify as voting for "the lesser of two evils."

 

[anaconda]

I'm not really seriuos about this, but we should all vote Obama just for spite.

This may be the best strategic move for popularizing a liberty candidate in 2016.

 

[anaconda]

I'm from TN and I'm not voting for RoMoney.

I love Tennessee. My grand dad was from there. I am sorry if I stereotyped. But I suppose I am grasping at some attempt to quantify voter sentiment and psychology to the extent that party loyalty trumps platform. I live smack between Oakland and Berkeley where about every fifth car has an Obama bumper sticker. That stereotype obviously does not apply to me. Peace.

 

[anaconda]

Yes, they will do what they can to demonize us if/when R-money fails. We need to get out some bumper stickers if this occurs. Something like "Don't blame us, we wanted a conservate candidate, remember RP2012".

I think after August I will definitely go to the Cafe Press and find a "Don't Blame Me. I Voted For Ron Paul" bumper sticker. Hmmm...but I guess you're saying I shouldn't do that if Obama wins..

 

[anaconda]

Gary Johnson 2012

They aren't getting my vote at the national level. These neocons should have thought about their lies and smears against Ron before opening up their mouths and launching a nuclear attack against him and us. We are the real deal, not flip flopping self admitted Progressive Mittens. Now they are stuck with a leftist with a "R" after his name.

A vote for Romney is a vote for Obama.

Well said!

 

[sailingaway]

I want to say that I wouldn't vote for Romney/Ron Paul ticket, but the truth is that I probably would. Ron Paul as an opposition VP voting NO on everything, with the President's ear is a lot better than Ron Paul as a retired Congressman.

I agree. I figure there is no difference between Obama and Romney, and I'd be voting for Ron Paul as VP.

But since Ron will never stop being Ron, Romney is unlikely to pick him. I think Romney would rather lose than be challenged.

 

[sailingaway]

I think after August I will definitely go to the Cafe Press and find a "Don't Blame Me. I Voted For Ron Paul" bumper sticker. Hmmm...but I guess you're saying I shouldn't do that if Obama wins..

I already have a shirt that says that from 2008.

 

[Feelgood]

Ron Paul needs to announce he is close to picking HIS VP to run with him. Seal the deal and in your face to the GOP. Of course Ron wont do it, but it would be nice...

 

[kahless]

I dislike Romney for all the same reasons stated but all this talk about no difference between Romney and Obama is bullshit.

Just of the top of my head a few examples come to mind that effect me directly.

1. Health insurance rates that I can no longer afford. Under Obama not only will I still not be able to afford health insurance, I will be penalized next year with a tax. So some of the money I could have used to pay for insurance is going to go to the IRS.

Romney however is running with Ron's plank of allowing insurance companies to compete across state lines to drive down costs. He has also renounced the mandate and plans to repeal Obamacare. I know this is the guy that created it at the state level but it is the only chance of repeal of any of it where Obama there is no chance. I also believe he knows he cannot get re-elected if he betrays this campaign promise.

2. Romney = lower taxes and spending cuts. Obama = higher taxes and increased spending.

This is some what of an improvement over Obama. It is not Ron Paul but it is in my best interest. Of course Romney does not come close to Ron Paul and would be a painful choice but it is still in my best interest. If you are given a choice of a master that will beat you 2 hours a day instead of 5. I will take 2 hours a day.

For moral reasons however I may just sit home or vote Johnson but just getting tired of the no difference bit and people so shocked a Paul supporter would consider Romney when the choice is between a Socialist and a Communist.