Founding Members Being Enlisted - The Proservative Movement is Born

[The Proservative]

Let me know if you need clarification...it clearly says we are behind Ron Paul no matter what his party ends up being.

 

[TruthAtLast]

I believe we need to organize 180,000 organizations in each precinct of the US of A to organize local support and organize GOP efforts.

One central group is exactly what the Powers-that-be want because they can easily take over the top and control. I'd like to see the CIA/FBI try to take over 180,000 groups.

The problem with 180,000 grassroots organizations without any central leadership is that people lose focus, don't have NEARLY the impact, and don't have the funding.

My advise is register Republican and change the party. It'll be easier. Ron Paul knows that.

I don't think that a third party is being proposed here (though that door should never be closed completely). What is being proposed is a central organization for the Revolution Movement. An organization that can mobilize vast amounts of resources and people into laser-focused tasks. It is the unified MOB that makes change happen.

These Ron Pauler Congressmen that are running are competing at local levels. Imagine the power of the "Revolution" unleashed upon each of their rivals. mass calls, canvassing, funding, and billboards, radio spots, mailers, etc.

One by one the competition would be picked off because they couldn't withstand the onslaught of our wave of nation-wide supporters.

Right now there are lots of people who believe in the cause but without leadership they are fractioned and unfocused. That is really what we are trying to change.

 

[The Proservative]

Ahh so an interest group within the GOP? OK I'll bite. What seperates the proservatives from the Ron Paul Republicans?

Nothing at all if these Republican truly hold ALL of Ron Paul positions at heart, including his opposition to the current "war" in Iraq. Otherwise, we are not at all diffrerent.

 

[RonPaulVolunteer]

"I'm a grassroot" ??

whatever... A blade of grass can only take the weight of a giant because that weight is shared amongst all the other blades tightly surrounding it. The ONLY way to fight a giant is to beat it at its own game. I fully endorse creating a new political party as long as it strictly follows Ron Paul's ideology.

 

[The Proservative]

oops, double posted. don't know how to delete this one.

TruthAtLast is right on the money...and the storm, like I said, as a brewin, headed this way. We will continue to picked off one by one, and I just want to help in making sure with stick together.

Truth, please contact me when you some time.

 

[Captain America]

I am a paleo-conservative, and that name just sounds dumb, sorry. I will not join the "proservative" movement.

your thinking is terrible

 

[The Proservative]

your thinking is terrible

But to his credit Captn', I was pretty pissed when I bought a box of grape nuts and they didn't taste like grapes...they tasted more like, um, not grapes...

 

[The Proservative]

"I'm a grassroot" ??

whatever... A blade of grass can only take the weight of a giant because that weight is shared amongst all the other blades tightly surrounding it. The ONLY way to fight a giant is to beat it at its own game. I fully endorse creating a new political party as long as it strictly follows Ron Paul's ideology.

I agree for sure with this. But, lets crawl before we walk, that is the idea. We'll cross that "new party" bridge when we get there...let's first just get there, TOGETHER

 

[phill4paul]

Nothing at all if these Republican truly hold ALL of Ron Paul positions at heart, including his opposition to the current "war" in Iraq. Otherwise, we are not at all diffrerent.

If WE Republicans truly hold all of Ron Pauls' positions at heart.
If you are GOP DO NOT dissasociate yourself from the party. YOU and I are the party. THEY, neo-conservatives, do NOT have the power that is allowed them.
They are weak. The GOP is a minority power when compared to the DEMs. That is the Ron Paul Revolution.
WE are more passionate. WE can take county from them. WE can take State from them. NEO-s do not represent US.
We are not intruding on them. It is they that have stolen it from US.
WE ,I hope you are included, will take the GOP back,
The only movement I belong to is the Ron Paul Revolution. And he is a Republican!

 

[The Proservative]

If WE Republicans truly hold all of Ron Pauls' positions at heart.
If you are GOP DO NOT dissasociate yourself from the party. YOU and I are the party. THEY, neo-conservatives, do NOT have the power that is allowed them.
They are weak. The GOP is a minority power when compared to the DEMs. That is the Ron Paul Revolution.
WE are more passionate. WE can take county from them. WE can take State from them. NEO-s do not represent US.
We are not intruding on them. It is they that have stolen it from US.
WE ,I hope you are included, will take the GOP back,
The only movement I belong to is the Ron Paul Revolution. And he is a Republican!

We'll right, so do I... Conservatives with passion and determination that so many Progressives show (even though their intentions are, in my opinion, extremely determental)

Proservative = Progressive Actions COMMITTED TO Conservative VALUES

 

[RonPaulVolunteer]

I agree for sure with this. But, lets crawl before we walk, that is the idea. We'll cross that "new party" bridge when we get there...let's first just get there, TOGETHER

Ah, that's what I was saying... I was backing you up...

 

[The Proservative]

OK , right, that's what I thought Was taking a barrage there, ducking from possible friendly fire.

 

[american.swan]

The problem with 180,000 grassroots organizations without any central leadership is that people lose focus, don't have NEARLY the impact, and don't have the funding.

Impact? http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=118851

Funding? There can be grassroots funding of various projects that the all the committeemen can use, such as slim-jims, newsletters, and videos. My ideas for a media program similar to the evening news using grassroots reports would be great, but has been ignored by the grassroots, it wouldn't cost that much to get off the ground I figure, but I can't do it. My idea of a newsletter that committeemen can print off at kinkos if they want has also been ignored by the all knowing grassroots and again I don't have the resources to do it.

Lose Focus? Are you speaking of the mass exodus from these forums? If a committeemen loses focus he/she needs to be replaced and shouldn't be apart of the movement.

If you want a "group" that is easily taken over by the elite covert operations than that's fine with me. Unless the few, the proud, the hardcore supporters get active in the GOP, no organization is going to work anyway.

 

[LandonCook]

Hello everyone,

Initial interest group forming for the Proservative movement. Our platform is based ENTIRELY on that of Ron Paul, and will continue to support him and all of our grassroot efforts whether he runs Republican or not.

Future actions include coordinating with various grassroots groups/websites, pooling resources such as contact/voter registration lists, a one-stop shop for tools needed to organize and mobilze grassroots efforts, including a text message notification system and the ability to make phone calls for Ron Paul FROM YOUR HOUSE (think call drive parties).

Again, this is an effort to solidify our Ron Paul Revolution into a collective movement, not just yet a third party. If and when that option presents itself, "We'll cross that bridge when we get there".

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Anthony Cinelli

Such bad wording... seriously... I know your a good guy, but you picked the worst words...

 

[lonestarguy]

Ron Paul is a Lifetime Member of the Libertarian Party

Please correct this part of your post. Dr. Paul has expressed his wishes concerning a third-party run and you are NOT supporting HIS PLATFORM.

Correct that misconception immediately or I will have to report this thread.

I will NOT support your organization because you are pushing for a third-party run in direct contradiction of his wishes.

SHAME ON YOU!

Anthony (The Proservative),

Don't worry about some of the abrasive types who will try and shame you on your efforts. Thanks for your enthusiasm.

Additionally, you should be aware that Ron Paul is a Lifetime Member of the Libertarian Party. So, if people want to talk up a 3rd party Libertarian or Conservative Party run they are free to, ON THIS FORUM.

Now, if peeps want to re-take the Republican Party, great. But as we are already seeing the Freedom movement is indeed losing steam and will continue to do so if we do not fill the vacuum in the upcoming presidential election that may contain only McClinton or McBama.

I can't believe that the Freedom movement would shun a grand opportunity to introduce, educate, and recruit millions of new converts to the cause by running credible known candidates like Ron Paul, Gary Johnson (fmr NM Governor), Andrew Napolitano (Nation of Sheeple), people of that calibre.

I say the Freedom movement runs presidential candidates and deny the Republicans the White House until they see the light. Ron Paul has clearly stated he will not support the McCainiac anyway.

And Ron Paul could be lobbied to change his mind anyway. So, lets see.

 

[pacelli]

bump

 

[nodope0695]

What the hell does "proservative" mean?

Why not "Conservative" party, or how about NO party. I'm a member of the Revolution, and thats about it.

 

[PauliticsPolitics]

I prefer "Ron Paul Republican" or "Larry McDonald Democrat."
We need both sides.
And yes, you should look into Larry McDonald.

But I approve of any label for a constitutional collective.

 

[free.alive]

Thruth at Last. You're not hinting at bureaucracy are you?

Whatever groups we create, they must be decentralized, the power must flow from the bottom-up, and we must do our best to prevent the structure of the organization from becoming a large organization.

If an organization is centralized, it is more easily corrupted, and if the power flows top-down, it will most definitely (eventually) be taken over by those who, well, have taken over everything else, and then the only language of the organization will become doublespeak. Also, all large organizations - governments, corporations, charities, think-tanks - become bloated, inefficient, and eventually ineffectual or detrimental to their purpose.

We need (probably many) lean, mean decentralized and bottom-up tyranny fighting machines.

'Nuf said.

 

[Revolution9]

A quick study of the word you use shows it to be a gimmick n that it appears to be conjunctive of progressive and conservative. This would imply being pro-servative or that which serves. Conservative is counter to serving n this manner as a serf which is another way of saying that which serves one. A Conservator will allow the admiring of artworks for example but they will not be served or tendered for money. Ya oughta rethink this. Canada has a Progressive Conservative party.

Best
Randy