Found The Revolution: A Manifesto in audiobook format on BitTorrent

[Matt Collins]

I think you're wasting your time. Some people here just don't have the mental capacity to see anything beyond their pre-conceived notions. Talk about sheeple...

Yes, but if I don't at least make an effort to educate people then there is little chance of them being educated....

 

[spiteface]

Who would write if it paid nothing, Collins? Who would or could record music if it was nothing but a very expensive hobby?

Your argument is as fallacious and goofy as if you said that the income tax is not akin to theft because it is withheld from your check before you ever see it, so you are 'deprived of nothing'. Get real.

Yeah, what restaurants would create new dishes if they couldn't be patented? Everyone would just steal the recipe and the creator would get screwed. Oh wait...

 

[RonPaulVolunteer]

Yes, but if I don't at least make an effort to educate people then there is little chance of them being educated....

True.

 

[Matt Collins]

Who would write if it paid nothing,

Millions of people have and do. My posts on here from the last year could make more than a book. Look at those who blog. Many people want to get their message out. Many people simply want to share ideas with others. Writing isn't always about the money so copyright isn't necessary for people to write. But that really isn't the issue at hand now is it?

Who would or could record music if it was nothing but a very expensive hobby?

To most people who record music it IS a very expensive hobby. The majority of musicians don't make anything off of their recordings. And if they do it's usually cross-collateralized to their live performances.

Your argument is as fallacious and goofy as if you said that the income tax is not akin to theft because it is withheld from your check before you ever see it, so you are 'deprived of nothing'. Get real.

Again, different argument completely. The income tax IS theft because they are depriving you of what you have earned. They are taking your money.

 

[acptulsa]

Again, different argument completely. The income tax IS theft because they are depriving you of what you have earned. They are taking your money.

And writing an entertaining novel should not be a way to earn? And if no one pays for it, where is what you earned?

 

[FrankRep]

Acptulsa seems more interested in making a profit than actually saving the country and educating people.

 

[acptulsa]

Acptulsa seems more interested in making a profit than actually saving the country and educating people.

What does Ron Paul use the proceeds for?

 

[FrankRep]

What does Ron Paul use the proceeds for?

You must look at the bigger picture. Ron Paul's ideas and knowledge MUST get out to the public before we have a total economic collapse.

 

[RonPaulVolunteer]

You must look at the bigger picture. Ron Paul's ideas and knowledge MUST get out to the public before we have a total economic collapse.

Sorry, I can't see the forest. There's some trees in the bloody way.

 

[Matt Collins]

And writing an entertaining novel should not be a way to earn? And if no one pays for it, where is what you earned?

Who says no one will pay for it? It's available on the web and still LOTS of people are paying for it.

 

[Matt Collins]

Acptulsa seems more interested in making a profit than actually saving the country and educating people.

Let's not attack him on that. His point that a profit is a good thing is true. In fact one of the reasons copyright law exists is to provide incentive for creative authors to create works of art (including books, music, etc). However it does it not only for the benefit of the author, but for the benefit of society at large.

But that doesn't mean that downloading an unauthorized copy of Ron's book is theft. It isn't; it's copyright infringement and there IS a difference.

 

[acptulsa]

You must look at the bigger picture. Ron Paul's ideas and knowledge MUST get out to the public before we have a total economic collapse.

Dude, I know. When did I say anything different? Indeed, when did I even say that I disagree with the fact that it is legal to copy copyrighted material for educational purposes? Why are you talking down to me?

Matt Collins says that writers and musicians should be robbed of the fruits of their labors, I disagree and you accuse me of not looking at the big freedom movement picture. Looks to me like misdirection, tag teaming and a big fat fail. But, hey, thanks for playing...

 

[Kludge]

Ron's really a jackass for charging people for his book and audiobook. If he really wanted to help the movement, he would have offered it for free.

Onward, Shays, to the courthouse!

 

[Paul.Bearer.of.Injustice]

Thomas Paine charged top $ for his pamphlets, right?

 

[LibertyEagle]

Yes, but if I don't at least make an effort to educate people then there is little chance of them being educated....

Oh, thanks and all, but I already know what theft is. Ron Paul owns the content of his book. You and a few others, are doing your dead level best to justify stealing said content. Call it what you will, but it is nothing but common thievery. If you'd stoop low enough to steal from Ron, I wonder what else you guys would do?

If you want Ron's book for free, there is a way to do it. ASK HIM.

My 2 cents.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Acptulsa seems more interested in making a profit than actually saving the country and educating people.

Frankly, I'm surprised you take this tack.

It sounds remarkably similar to Karl Marx's belief that....

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need."

 

[Kludge]

Frankly, I'm surprised you take this tack.

It sounds remarkably similar to Karl Marx's belief that....

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need."

Proletarians of the world, UNITE! Fight the scourge of the ungrateful capitalist pigs!


For too long we have slaved! It is time to turn the tables! Unite! Unite! Citizens, unite!

 

[Matt Collins]

Matt Collins says that writers and musicians should be robbed of the fruits of their labors,

Please quote where I said that

 

[acptulsa]

Please quote where I said that

"By downloading a copy of that work you are not stealing anything. You are simply making a copy of it. The original author is deprived of nothing."

Doesn't matter if it's withheld or taken from his pocket. You can trot the semantics up one side and down the other and it makes no difference. An author has a reasonable expectation of recompense and your way, it isn't forthcoming.

 

[Matt Collins]

Oh, thanks and all, but I already know what theft is.

Obviously not.

You and a few others, are doing your dead level best to justify stealing said content.

No one is advocating the theft of anything.

Call it what you will, but it is nothing but common thievery My 2 cents.

Unfortunately an uninformed and uneducated opinion.