Forum Trump Supporters Please Weigh In On Syria Bombing Without War Declaration

[jmdrake]

Yeah, Trump already said he doesn't trust these people. He already knows they are lying. They have all the power though to bring him down, so he must do what their bidding.

*Sigh* This is what you don't understand. Trump doesn't give a flip about you or your principles or common decency or anything. Trump is for Trump. Trump gave contradictory promises to contradictory audiences. He got you and other pro-liberty people on board by calling Iraq a mistake and attacking Bush, then he got teocons on board by attacking Obama for getting out of Iraq "too soon" and for not attacking Assad. Oh...but that's after he first said Obama should not attack Assad back in 2013. And guess what? In 2013 most of the rest of the country was saying don't attack Assad including many republicans. In this situation Trump had to throw one group of his supporters under the bus, the teocons or the non-interventionists. He chose the teocons over you. It's that simple.

 

[dannno]

Massie already called it. It was most likely a chemical weapons dump that got bombed by accident.

Team McCain just got back from Syria, I would bet they probably placed the sarin gas at the target or possibly gave it to the rebels to launch when Assad attacked them.

 

[jmdrake]

Except Putin can't afford to lose Syria. If Trump wants to replace Assad with a US puppet, Putin has no choice but to stop him.

We're you the one predicting that Putin and Trump will come to a mutually agreeable replacement for Assad? I'm sure they can find someone who will allow Russia access to Syrian ports while being a bloodthirsty Islamist bent on destroying Syria's Christian minority. Make no mistake, the Christians are the real targets of those cruise missiles.

 

[juleswin]

We're you the one predicting that Putin and Trump will come to a mutually agreeable replacement for Assad? I'm sure they can find someone who will allow Russia access to Syrian ports while being a bloodthirsty Islamist bent on destroying Syria's Christian minority. Make no mistake, the Christians are the real targets of those cruise missiles.

This is just completely ludicrous, the Christians are not the target of anything. These people are fighting a war because they want to bring Middle east gas to europe. If they could do this without killing any Christians, I am sure they would do just that.

 

[oyarde]

I have Syrian guys banging on my door, waving jeweled daggers about and so forth. God bless Trump for helping me out here. Definitely imminent threat.

How much for the daggers ? Are they real Damascus with real jewels ?

 

[jmdrake]

Team McCain just got back from Syria, I would bet they probably placed the sarin gas at the target or possibly gave it to the rebels to launch when Assad attacked them.

Ummm....the ISIS backed rebels already had chemical weapons and even the U.N. has confirmed that they have used them repeatedly during this conflict. You don't have to go with an exotic false flag conspiracy theory when a simple one will do.

Now here's the question. Why didn't Trump even consider the obvious possibility that rebel held chemical weapons might have been accidentally bombed (like Massie did), or that rebels used the cover of the attack to release chemical weapons they already had (the sane part of your otherwise bat guano crazy scenario)? Instead Trump rushed to launch missiles before any investigation could be done. Now there is no way for Trump to backtrack and say "false flag" because Trump never admits mistakes.

 

[misterx]

We're you the one predicting that Putin and Trump will come to a mutually agreeable replacement for Assad? I'm sure they can find someone who will allow Russia access to Syrian ports while being a bloodthirsty Islamist bent on destroying Syria's Christian minority. Make no mistake, the Christians are the real targets of those cruise missiles.

What is the reasoning behind your claim that the objective is to slaughter Syria's Christians?

 

[jmdrake]

This is just completely ludicrous, the Christians are not the target of anything. These people are fighting a war because they want to bring Middle east gas to europe. If they could do this without killing any Christians, I am sure they would do just that.

Each place where Christians have had sanctuary, Egypt, Libya, Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, have either had regime change or been under constant threat of regime change or have had regime change. Maybe Christians have just picked bad places to live.

 

[specsaregood]

Clearly, Trump really does pay foreign hookers to pee on him. Probably even gets sexually excited from them pooping on his face too.

 

[jmdrake]

What is the reasoning behind your claim that the objective is to slaughter Syria's Christians?

In 2004 Christians fled Iraq because we overthrew their protector Saddam Hussein. Most of them went to Syria.

 

[misterx]

Each place where Christians have had sanctuary, Egypt, Libya, Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, have either had regime change or been under constant threat of regime change or have had regime change. Maybe Christians have just picked bad places to live.

It seems odd that Jordan has not been attacked yet?

 

[jmdrake]

It seems odd that Jordan has not been attacked yet?

Don't give them any ideas! Syria seemed safe....until it wasn't.

 

[misterx]

In 2004 Christians fled Iraq because we overthrew their protector Saddam Hussein. Most of them went to Syria.

I agree that we are generally targeting moderates, but I don't believe that the reason is that they harbor Christians. It has more to do with a desire to keep the middle east destabilized in general.

 

[juleswin]

Each place where Christians have had sanctuary, Egypt, Libya, Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, have either had regime change or been under constant threat of regime change or have had regime change. Maybe Christians have just picked bad places to live.

But why would the MIC pick on Christians? if there is any ethnic or religious group targeted, it is the shias who they see as being allies to Iran. That is why they are specifically being targeted in Lebanon, Syria and Yemen. I think the harm on Christians is purely coincidental.

 

[juleswin]

It seems odd that Jordan has not been attacked yet?

Not odd at all. Jordan is part of the GCC, Israel, Arab league axis. You don't attack people already in your friends list.

 

[newbitech]

anybody that watched those people, those children writhing in agony and death throws, anyone that saw that and did not feel hurt is not a human being.

I want those responsible to meet the same ending.

I don't think throwing bombs is gonna serve any kind of justice.

trumps response was unamerican. I don't support it.

wars anywhere in the world impact our economy which is directly tied to our national security.

no it's not a direct threat, so it requires congressional approval. congress would have voted no because americans are suffering war fatigue. i cant remember a time in my life when america was not dropping bombs somewhere.

we are not the world's police and we are not nation builders or regime changers.

trump needs to get back to work on domestic policy and if he lets the power go to his head too much more, hes going to face his own civil revolt.

 

[misterx]

anybody that watched those people, those children writhing in agony and death throws, anyone that saw that and did not feel hurt is not a human being.

I want those responsible to meet the same ending.

I don't think throwing bombs is gonna serve any kind of justice.

trumps response was unamerican. I don't support it.

wars anywhere in the world impact our economy which is directly tied to our national security.

no it's not a direct threat, so it requires congressional approval. congress would have voted no because americans are suffering war fatigue. i cant remember a time in my life when america was not dropping bombs somewhere.

we are not the world's police and we are not nation builders or regime changers.

trump needs to get back to work on domestic policy and if he lets the power go to his head too much more, hes going to face his own civil revolt.

Honestly, I really don't care much what happens to Syrians. In a world of 7 billion people, I can't get all teary eyed about a few dozen people I don't know. It's not that I'm happy about it, it's a shame, but it's not my concern.

 

[jmdrake]

But why would the MIC pick on Christians? if there is any ethnic or religious group targeted, it is the shias who they see as being allies to Iran. That is why they are specifically being targeted in Lebanon, Syria and Yemen. I think the harm on Christians is purely coincidental.

Maybe. As far as targeting Shias, that's kind of tough as the people we put in power in Iraq are Shias. We seem to flip flop between Shias and Sunnis and religious minorities like Christians get caught in the middle.

 

[misterx]

Not odd at all. Jordan is part of the GCC, Israel, Arab league axis. You don't attack people already in your friends list.

Yeah, I was being sarcastic. They are the most friendly arab country for Christians. If Christian friendly governments were the target, then they should be target number one. These countries are just pawns in a larger game between East and West. Islamic government, Secular, Christian, it means nothing to our leaders. The deaths of a few dozezn or thousand kids means nothing to them as well, except in propaganda value. All that matters is keeping Russia and China from having stable allies in their region.

 

[jmdrake]

anybody that watched those people, those children writhing in agony and death throws, anyone that saw that and did not feel hurt is not a human being.

I agree. I also hurt for the 500,000 dead Iraqi children from U.S. sanctions under Clinton.

I want those responsible to meet the same ending.

I'm not one to hope for revenge because there is usually collateral damage but I understand your sentiment.

I don't think throwing bombs is gonna serve any kind of justice.

Totally agree.

trumps response was unamerican. I don't support it.

I wish I could say it was unamerican but it seems to be what we do as of late. I agree that it's unconstitutional.

wars anywhere in the world impact our economy which is directly tied to our national security.

True. This attack cost us 50 tomahawk missiles at $1.5 million a piece.

no it's not a direct threat, so it requires congressional approval. congress would have voted no because americans are suffering war fatigue. i cant remember a time in my life when america was not dropping bombs somewhere.

Yep...yep...in my life there was a respite between Vietnam and Grenada. I remember the Clint Eastwood movie "Heartbreak Ridge" about Grenada. (A false flag war if there ever was one.) In that movie, before the Grenada invasion, Clint Eastwood and another jarhead were bemoaning being "0-1-1", losing Vietnam, tying Korea and no "wins." It seems that we wanted a war just to be able to say we "won." And now we've gotten drunk on "winning."

we are not the world's police and we are not nation builders or regime changers.

Yep.

trump needs to get back to work on domestic policy and if he lets the power go to his head too much more, hes going to face his own civil revolt.

Perhaps a stalled domestic agenda made war look more attractive?