Former pilot and 9/11 conspiracy theorist shoots and kills 2 teen children, then himself

[dannno]

Who shoots a dog?? (rhetorical)

V3n has solved the mystery!!

 

[ronpaulfollower999]

Why are you assuming he did it?

I'm not. The official story sounds like a load of shit.

 

[pcosmar]

Without getting into all the theories that will inevitably pop up, what reason would be "adequate" here?

People do really awful things with little or no warning quite frequently.

I don't believe that,,
first there are signs of a radical change in personality.
second, people do things for reasons,, even if they are not apparent to casual observation.

radical, near instantaneous change is a sign of outside manipulation.

 

[MelissaWV]

I don't believe that,,
first there are signs of a radical change in personality.
second, people do things for reasons,, even if they are not apparent to casual observation.

radical, near instantaneous change is a sign of outside manipulation.

We will have to agree to disagree. I've seen way too much to think there is always a perfectly reasonable explanation for killing others.

 

[dannno]

We will have to agree to disagree. I've seen way too much to think there is always a perfectly reasonable explanation for killing others.

There doesn't have to be a perfectly reasonable explanation, but usually there is a reason or a trigger even if it is non-tangible. For example, the mother who kills her children because the world is so evil she wants to protect them from it. That is not a perfectly reasonable explanation, because in reality the kids would have a better chance if they were protected from HER. But in her mind, there is still a reason.

A guy who claims to have been a drug runner for the CIA/DEA and is constantly exposing government lies would make him a target for the government to murder and sounds a lot more plausible to me.

 

[MelissaWV]

There doesn't have to be a perfectly reasonable explanation, but usually there is a reason or a trigger even if it is non-tangible. For example, the mother who kills her children because the world is so evil she wants to protect them from it. That is not a perfectly reasonable explanation, because in reality the kids would have a better chance if they were protected from HER. But in her mind, there is still a reason.

A guy who claims to have been a drug runner for the CIA/DEA and is constantly exposing government lies would make him a target for the government to murder and sounds a lot more plausible to me.

If you read the original quote I was responding to, they were basically saying this didn't sound right because it seemed like a "good family." My point was that this is a perception from afar, and not enough on its own to come to the conclusion that he didn't do it. Other evidence? Fine. Go for it. But his family life looks good on paper so obviously there was no reason to kill someone? Huh?

 

[pcosmar]

If you read the original quote I was responding to, they were basically saying this didn't sound right because it seemed like a "good family." My point was that this is a perception from afar, and not enough on its own to come to the conclusion that he didn't do it. Other evidence? Fine. Go for it. But his family life looks good on paper so obviously there was no reason to kill someone? Huh?

People have been working on means to manipulate people to do things on command for a very long time.
A certain Government program worked on this specifically.. To turn an ordinary person into a cold blooded killer who would kill anyone on command.
They were successful, using a combination of drugs and hypnosis.

They have had 30 years, and billions of $$$ since then to perfect this technique.
Any time I see a case of someone acting against their known nature for no reason at all,, I suspect that they were manipulated to do so.

And that is aside from clear murders that were Officially reported to be suicides.
That is clear cover up,,with investigators and media in collusion.

Some things are reported quite differently than what actually happened.

 

[Antischism]

This story just makes me sick to my stomach. I don't even know what to say, nor will I jump to conclusions. I don't think all tragedies are conspiracies, and I do believe people are capable of horrifying things such as this. I don't know....

 

[Peace Piper]

We will have to agree to disagree. I've seen way too much to think there is always a perfectly reasonable explanation for killing others.

Sure there are cases where there is no reasonable explanation for a killing.

But in this case, we are supposed to believe (so far) that a professional 54 year old man one day just woke up and decided to murder his teenaged kids- shoot them in the head while they were sleeping-, kill the family dog, and then shoot himself. He happened to be a "conspiracy theorist" and just published his 3rd book.

Unless he was on SSRI drugs, in which case the above behavior is *not* abnormal (see annex here) something just really stinks about this. If he was suicidal, wouldn't he have just offed himself? What does it take to shoot ones children in the head? I simply cannot begin to imagine...

About the Author
http://www.amazon.com/The-Big-Bamboozle-War-Terror/dp/1468094580

Philip Marshall, a veteran airline captain and former government "special activities" contract pilot, has authored three books on Top Secret America, a group presently conducting business as the United States Intelligence Community. Beginning with his role in the 1980s as a Learjet captain first as part of a Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) sting on Pablo Escobar, and later in the covert arming of the Nicaraguan Contras, Marshall has studied and written 30-years worth of covert government special activities and the revolving door of Wall Street tricksters, media moguls, and their well funded politicians. Marshall is the leading aviation expert on the September 11th attack, as well as a masterful storyteller. The Big Bamboozle (2012) is his second work to focus on the flight training and preparation of 9/11 hijackers' after False Flag 911 was published in 2008. His first book, Lakefront Airport (2003) was a novel based on his experience as a government contract pilot during the Iran-Contra operation. Philip Marshall began his 20-year career as an airline pilot in 1985, flying first with Eastern Airlines and then with United. He holds captain ratings on the Boeing 727, 737, 747, 757 and 767. Born and raised in New Orleans, Marshall currently resides in California.

MURPHYS - Calaveras County residents responded with shock and grief Sunday as they learned that a Little League coach, author and former airline pilot had shot his two teenage children to death and then turned the gun on himself at their home in one of the region's most exclusive neighborhoods.

The Calaveras County Sheriff's Office reported Sunday that deputies who arrived at the home on Sandalwood Drive in the Forest Meadows neighborhood of Murphys found Phillip Marshall, 54, dead in a pool of blood inside the front door.

His children, Alex Marshall, 17, and Macaila Marshall, 14, were dead on a couch. All had been shot once in the head with a handgun.

The family dog, also shot to death, was found in a bedroom.

Both teens were students at Bret Harte Union High School in Angels Camp.

Merita Callaway, the Calaveras County supervisor who represents the Murphys area, lives five doors away from the Marshalls' home in the Forest Meadows subdivision. Callaway said she socialized often with Phillip Marshall.

"He would go for walks and he would stop by the house, and we would have coffee and jabber," Callaway said.

"He was over at my house on (Jan. 21). Then I saw him the 23rd at the clinic (in Arnold)."

Callaway said Marshall appeared to be a loving parent and had coached his son's Little League team. She said she was still in shock Sunday afternoon but had not yet been able to cry about the killings.

"I can't, because I don't understand it. My chest hurts. I have a headache," Callaway said.

Callaway said it was young friends of Alex and Macaila who became worried that they had not had a phone call or text message in several days who went to the Marshall home Saturday.

They were the ones who saw Phillip Marshall lying inside the front door and alerted the Calaveras County Sheriff's Office. Deputies arrived about 3:10 p.m. Saturday.

Sean Marshall, the estranged wife of Phillip Marshall and the mother of Alex and Macaila, was traveling in Turkey. The Sheriff's Office was able to notify her, and she was on her way back to California on Sunday, Callaway said.

The Sheriff's Office statement said investigators did not know the motive for the slayings.

Sunday evening, Bret Harte Union High School Principal Michael Chimente was at work with his counseling staff planning for today.

Chimente said staff would meet to discuss the plan first thing in the morning, and that the school's library would be closed for the week so it can serve as a place for staff, students and parents to grieve and meet with counselors.

Chimente said he knew Alex and Macaila but had never met Phillip Marshall.

"Our thoughts and prayers are with the family," Chimente said. "And now our immediate concerns are helping our students understand this tragedy that has occurred."

Alex Marshall's teammates on the Bret Harte football team gathered at coach Scott Edwards' home throughout the day Sunday, as they would during the season.

Edwards said the high school junior always had a smile on his face, even when he told his coach he needed to go to the doctor for what turned out to be a broken clavicle. He missed some games but he came back.

"He was just so outgoing and lighthearted and just fun to be around," Edwards said, adding that Alex was able to connect with many people and groups of people on the small campus.

"This is going to be hard on our community," he said.

On Sunday, posts such as "I miss you so much already" and "rest in peace" appeared in the comments sections of photos on what appeared to be Macaila Marshall's account on the Instagram photo-sharing website. It's a collection of mostly whimsical pictures, including one posted Jan. 28. Macaila snapped a photo in a mirror as her brother pointed a blow dryer at her while making a face.

She also posted about being injured in a recent golf-cart accident in a picture of a pair of scraped legs.

Callaway said she had been told by Phillip Marshall when they met Jan. 23 that he was taking Macaila to get treatment for an injured ankle.

On Twitter, Macaila posted Jan. 25: "Would it be wrong if I threw my cat with his claws retracted at my dads face right now?"

Forest Meadows is an upscale, gated golf course residential community that sits in heavy forests between Murphys and Arnold. Sunday afternoon, a guard at the front gate of Forest Meadows said he was turning away camera crews seeking to visit the Sandalwood Drive home.

In addition to Callaway, Forest Meadows is home to a former county administrative officer, a prominent developer and a number of doctors, attorneys and other professionals.

Marshall formerly was a pilot on some of the world's largest passenger planes, flying first for Eastern Airlines and later for United, according to information posted on Amazon.com in connection to several of his books.

Marshall's works include "Lakefront Airport," a novel published in 2003. The Amazon blurb for his book said it was based on his experience as a contract pilot during the Iran-Contra affair in the early 1980s.

His more recent title published in early February 2012, is "The Big Bamboozle: 9/11 and the War on Terror." That work details Marshall's theory that it was not al-Qaida but actually officials in the U.S. and Saudi Arabian governments that orchestrated the attacks on Sept. 11, 2001.

Callaway said that she and many others stand ready to support Sean Marshall in any way they can.

"If you could, just put in how the community is also bearing some of the pain," Callaway said.

Chimente said efforts are under way to organize some kind of memorial service for Alex and Macaila, possibly as soon as Saturday.

Contact reporter Dana M. Nichols at (209) 607-1361 or [email protected]. Visit his blog at recordnet.com/calaverasblog.

Contact reporter Zachary K. Johnson at (209) 546-8258 or [email protected]. Visit his blog at recordnet.com/johnsonblog.
http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20130204/A_NEWS/302040310

 

[pcosmar]

This story just makes me sick to my stomach. I don't even know what to say, nor will I jump to conclusions. I don't think all tragedies are conspiracies, and I do believe people are capable of horrifying things such as this. I don't know....

Me as well,
And in learning that Governmental programs existed for exactly that purpose, it sickened me.
Listen to victim testimony sometime. It is truly horrific.

Humans do things for reasons.. Even Psychopathic Serial Killers do so for reasons.
Anytime you find a non violent individual suddenly and for no reason doing something like this,, look for outside manipulation.
People Don't just do something that horrific for no reason.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

If this was a mother and children killed at home, the "estranged" husband would be the top suspect right now. But she was out of the country, so she had a very good alibi. Hmmm, what kind of insurance polices are involved? Who is the "estranged" wife seeing?

 

[Peace Piper]

Phillip Marshalls last Tweets:

Looks like he was trying to get a message out...

https://twitter.com/thebigbamboozle

 

[J_White]

reading such reports, remind me of that scene from The Bourne Legacy where that scientist suddenly goes crazy in the lab and shoots everyone, due to "Behavioral programming" or some such things.

 

[pcosmar]

If this was a mother and children killed at home, the "estranged" husband would be the top suspect right now. But she was out of the country, so she had a very good alibi. Hmmm, what kind of insurance polices are involved? Who is the "estranged" wife seeing?

Not necessarily
http://www.reporterherald.com/ci_22...ng-shooting-at-denver-home?source=most_viewed

 

[Danke]

I could see someone in his position killing himself, maybe. But not his children and dog.

 

[MRK]

I'm not seeing this appear on the news anywhere.

 

[RickyJ]

What the hell is going on?

The public is being conditioned to believe that there was a Saudi connection to 9/11 because many of the "hijackers" were from Saudi-Arabia. The problem with this is that the "hijackers" were blamed for 9/11, but they did not do it. We were told they did it, but there is no evidence they did it. Some are reportedly still alive and have never even been to the USA before. The man that was killed is a 9/11 researcher and was posting on twitter in January about the link between the Saudi government and the "hijackers." He might have truly believed that the "hijackers" were not just pasties and truly did 9/11 and with him now casting the blame at the Saudi government a hit on him and his family will make it look like he was on the right trail and that the Saudi government is indeed responsible for 9/11. Nothing could be further from the truth however. This hit is intentionally leading people astray and killing a whole family to make it look like he was on to the truth. The CIA/Mossad and nation of Israel are the real terrorists here. They are the ones that did 9/11 and blamed the Saudi "hijackers" for it.

 

[RickyJ]

I'm not seeing this appear on the news anywhere.

It is not suppose to, it is meant for a different audience.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Marshall's works include "Lakefront Airport," a novel published in 2003. The Amazon blurb for his book said it was based on his experience as a contract pilot during the Iran-Contra affair in the early 1980s.

That whole cluster fuck is goddamned plutonium.

It kills anyone who touches it.

Yah, my first thought is a "whacking" or possibly a pyschotic break caused by SSRI reactions or withdrawal.

 

[pcosmar]

That last Tweet looks like a key.

Wonder what it opens.