voytechs
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Trust me, Obama will NOT be the nominee. Vote McCain or Clinton.
They certainly have been out in force, you're right. They've been trying to divide us and get us arguing with them--both to keep us from progressing instead and to make it so casual observers think we're nuts. They've also been actively discouraging new members. Free speech is all well and good, but it sure is a lot of work minimizing their damage.
I wish we could label them trolls and restrict them to the non-public areas of the forum. That would discourage them.
Your full of horse feathers
Obama is our biggest hindrance.
It sucks, but he stole our thunder and the only way to get it back is for him to go down in flames.
If Obama doesn't win this time around, he is going to steal our thunder again.
The sheep need to see his change first hand, and even then they might be too stupid to see it for what it is.
That's not exactly a fair or even accurate generalization. Sure, Obama's bad, but that's because he's an establishment hack, not 'cause he's a Democrat. Don't forget, we have allies on the Dem side like Kucinich, who wants to end the Fed, and Gravel who talks often and with great passion about dismantling the Military-Industrial Complex.
Be careful what you wish for, we're trying to save America, not destroy it. The cataclysm that an Obama presidency would bring will shorten the amount of time we have to prepare and get our people in to change things from the bottom-up.
I certainly don't wish for it.
In my mind, the difference between Obama and McCain are null as they are both controlled. Perception is a bigger descriptor of their differences. It is this perception in peoples minds that we are fighting against.
Exactly what I am trying to say all along.
The democrats i.e. Obama/Clinton are simply just playing the usual politics game of pandering to the crowd. They are simply wasting time, delaying the suffering in iraq. McCain at least tells us he will surge them to hell. Get the war done with and come home. Slow painful death or quick death. You choose.
Exactly what I am trying to say all along.
The democrats i.e. Obama/Clinton are simply just playing the usual politics game of pandering to the crowd. They are simply wasting time, delaying the suffering in iraq. McCain at least tells us he will surge them to hell. Get the war done with and come home. Slow painful death or quick death. You choose.
umm Mccain said 100 years?? How is that fast victory?
Obama's Global Poverty Act is enough to make any Ron Paul supporter question the idea of voting for him.
$845 billion over the next 13 years because the UN tells us we have to .
Occupation and war is different!
The democrats will also occupy iraq for 100 years! don't be naive. we are building our empire and iraq is the long missing piece.
Okay, so how is McCain better than Obama or Clinton? Clinton and Obama will go the status quo route, but will at least be pressured by their base to get out of Iraq and, hopefully, not to go into Iran, etc.
McCain is so freaking gung-ho to go into Iran that he'll get us embroiled in something that we will never get out of, and we won't have time or the capability to stop him because he's so freaking arrogant. Just like Bush, he'll trample all over us and our rights.