For All Delegates: Economics arguments nobody can argue with

vector35

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Hello,

I have been thinking about what I am going to say at the next delegate selection process, and I came up with something along these lines. This is more than you would want to say, but it should give you enough to argue your point if further debate ensues.
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1. Convince people our economy needs help
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OS2fI2p9iVs
The head of the Government Accountability Office says we need to spend less.

"I don't know anybody who has done their history...that thinks we can grow our way out of this."

2. How other candidates plan to help the economy
McCain: Ambiguously says will eliminate wasteful spending. Lacks details
Huckabee: Ambiguously says will eliminate wasteful spending. Lacks details
Dr. Ron Paul: Will cut OSHA, withdraw from overseas affairs, cut the Department of Education, cut the IRS, cut down the size of the CIA and the FBI.

4. Banking 'boosting' the economy?
This argument is wrong. When the government injects money into the economy it expects to increase economy size through the multiplier effect.
Money multiplier effect=(change in GDP)/(amount of investment)
One quoted number for this value is 0.6
Eckstein, Otto 1983 The DRI Model of the US Economy, New York:McGraw-Hill, DOI-10.2307/1058399. ISBN-0070189722
That means we gain 3/5 of the initial investment made by the government.

5. Why people think it works
The government borrows money from the Federal Reserve or China predominantly, and at interest. The Federal Reserve currently charges ~3% interest
http://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/h15/update/
This means in the government injects $1000 into the economy, they will create $600. Though they will only owe $300 from the loan. So a net gain of $300 was made right?

6. Problem
The money multiplier effect does not actually create money, it increases productivity of the public by giving them a false sense of economic stability. When it comes time to pay the bills, the federal reserve does not want sheep wool, it wants money. That means if the government tries to pay off its $1300 debt, no matter how much it taxes us, we still only have $1000 actual money.
 
Funny!

I agree the economy is the number one issue needs to be stressed.

People are seeing the value of their accounts go down. Many, just when they are getting close to retirement. Can they now retire?

A couple more months of this and they are going to start to panic.

Dr. Paul is the only sane one to correct the economy.
 
No one really understands point three. We may need a little more information.
 
Just ask the delegates how they feel about the economic stimulus package. How can any conservative back a plan to cut a $600 check to someone who only earned $3000 last year that did not even pay taxes. That is not a rebate, it is WELFARE! What direction are we going in the Republican Party. Ask them if they want to be "New Dealers" or "Great Societers" or if they would like to back someone with true conservative principles....RON PAUL.

ps point 3 is a good one
 
The problem is arguing with logic that does not exist. "IF the government can afford to fight all these wars then they can afford to give us all free healthcare too!"

or - (i just saw this yesterday)

"If the minimum wage had been increased at the same rate as the rate of first class postage, minimum wage would be $13.55 per hour now!"
 
I think it's important to emphasize and explain the importance of having a hard asset-backed currency. Remind them that Ron Paul is for the gold standard (if it comes up) only bc that's the current standard in the Constitution - but that can, and probably should, be amended.

Bring up the fact that the Mexican peso is almost on par with the dollar, NYC merchants are accepting and asking for Euros in some places, and some tourist areas in India are not accepting dollars anymore. Explain how a hard-backed dollar would skyrocket the value of the dollar around the world.

I think people turn their heads the instant they hear "gold standard", and I think that's a point that you have to make sure is explained well.
 
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