Focus On The Montana, Iowa & Virginia State Conventions This Weekend

[sicsempertyrannis]

slate

I was told the slate was split 7/6??

 

[Lightweis]

The deal for four delegates was reached last night.. Nothing has changed

 

[Warmon]

No we did not win Virginia.. We won four delegates which gives us 21 delegates total..

Not a win, but still a good result overall with 21 of 49. How did we do for alternates?

 

[MozoVote]

The deck was stacked high in Virginia, to get any more delegates at all on the at-large was a win in my book.

 

[parocks]

Update:

"The slate was just voted through. John Tate and Christopher Stearns were both chosen. based on information given by Chris Stearns relayed to me,, itll be 5 paulers and 2 conservatives. Should be a majority when this is combined with what we won at the district conventions."

Thanks to Beard4Liberty.

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from this

http://www.dailypaul.com/240615/grand-failure-at-the-virginia-state-convention

I have no idea how true any of this is

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

Any news coming out of Montana? I haven't seen a spec of mention anywhere :S

http://www.mtgop.org/index.php/state-convention.html

 

[Lightweis]

So apparently 7 people on the slate agreed to vote with the Rp people on the issues in virginia

 

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

Wouldn't it be a hoot if we won Iowa! Good luck, my friends.

It's officially a hoot. lol

 

[ClydeCoulter]

Sounds like a pretty good set of conventions for Ron Paul, Iowa great, Virginia good, Montana (any?)

 

[VAMole]

Thank you for the stream.

A clear vote for "nay" was chosen as a "yea" by the chair. Unfortunately the sound is bad and I could not hear what the vote was about.

There was also a close vote and Division was called. Now, from what I understand they are counting but to meet 2/3rds!

Warren county (heavy RP) may not be seated due to a technicality about a letter signed by the wrong person.

If you are from VA and understand this better than I do, please correct, explain, expand.

Thanks.

I was there, and I will correct, explain and expand.

First of all, I know the vote of which you speak, and I thought the noes had it, but it certainly wasn't clear and the ruling was appealed (when you had rising counted votes, etc).
Warren County had issues of some sort with electing delegates back in February (the mass meeting was a clusterf***), and the credentials committee chose not to seat that unit. The committees, including credentials, all had representation from our campaign. Now, reports from the Credentials Committee, according to the Convention Rules that were agreed upon basically unanimously at the start of the convention (and again the rules committee had input from both campaigns), are neither debatable nor amendable. That meant that the motion to seat Warren County had to take the form of a motion to suspend the rules. According to the Convention Rules, the motion to suspend the Rules required 3/4 of delegates, and there was no way there were 3/4 of delegates in favor of suspending the rules. The correct result under the Rules was reached, although I spoke to the Parliamentarian during the vote counting, who gave himself a D for handling the situation. The folks from Warren County had weeks in which to rectify the problem, and they apparently did not meet with the Credentials Committee to explain the situation after Credentials asked them to, so...

There was also shouting at the chair for recounts after Donna Holt, the liberty candidate for committeewoman, lost by 4 votes out of over 10K. People should understand that by the time the results are announced, the ballots have actually been counted three times already: once by the Unit chair, once by the District chair and once by Credentials, and the candidates have every opportunity to observe the counting. In an election that close, the Holt campaign would have made sure that all the i's were dotted and the t's crossed.

 

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http://www.mtgop.org/index.php/state-convention.html

Montana will be sending (0) zero RP delegates to Tampa. They were railroaded with a slate of state central committee hand picked delegates.

From the Dailey Paul

 

[sicsempertyrannis]

she lost by 1 vote

the votes were weighted... only 1200 or so delegates were present....weighted for 10000 or so. If one more person had shown up for Donna Holt...she'd have won. I know a guy who didnt show who would have voted for her... could choke him. And if they had seated Warren County... she'd have won.

 

[thoughtomator]

You can blame me, I was supposed to show but due to an incident here late last night which I really don't want to go into detail on I was not able to travel to Richmond. I have had a really rotten last 24 hours and now I feel even more like shit for it.

 

[eleganz]

the votes were weighted... only 1200 or so delegates were present....weighted for 10000 or so. If one more person had shown up for Donna Holt...she'd have won. I know a guy who didnt show who would have voted for her... could choke him. And if they had seated Warren County... she'd have won.

DOH!

I've talked to many delegates before and tried to persuade them to make it...well this would've been the perfect reasoning...hmm?

 

[seawolf]

So with the Iowa win this weekend we now have three definite States with a plurality of delegates that will Nominate Ron Paul for President in Tampa. (Iowa, Maine and Minnesota).

Louisiana, Nevada and Oklahoma all have two slates of delegates that will be decided by the Credentials Committee at the Convention.

Have a hard time believing that the Romney backed Committee will allow two Ron Paul Slates to be seated and give the Campaign the five it needs.

In addition, listening to Ron's video this weekend I am beginning to wonder if the Campaign has dropped the Nomination Effort and will focus its' energy on the Platform and putting Liberty Principles into it.

I pray that is not the case.

 

[WhistlinDave]

So with the Iowa win this weekend we now have three definite States with a plurality of delegates that will Nominate Ron Paul for President in Tampa. (Iowa, Maine and Minnesota).

Louisiana, Nevada and Oklahoma all have two slates of delegates that will be decided by the Credentials Committee at the Convention.

Have a hard time believing that the Romney backed Committee will allow two Ron Paul Slates to be seated and give the Campaign the five it needs.

In addition, listening to Ron's video this weekend I am beginning to wonder if the Campaign has dropped the Nomination Effort and will focus its' energy on the Platform and putting Liberty Principles into it.

I pray that is not the case.

I hope several delegates from each of these three states (Nevada, Louisiana, and Oklahoma) are going to be a part of the lawsuit going on... This is critical!! I hate to keep harping on the importance of this lawsuit but it may be the only shot we have at getting a fair shake... Especially with these three states where our opponents went so afoul of the rules. I do not want to see them get away with nullifying our slates that were elected fair and square after all the BS they pulled...

 

[MarcusI]

Louisiana, Nevada and Oklahoma all have two slates of delegates that will be decided by the Credentials Committee at the Convention.

Nevadas delegation is undisputed. However, its not absolutely clear if they can nominate Paul from the floor, being bound to Romney. General opinion is that they can.

 

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Nevadas delegation is undisputed. However, its not absolutely clear if they can nominate Paul from the floor, being bound to Romney. General opinion is that they can.

Yes then can. Nomination from the floor is not a bound vote. Only bound vote is the actual vote for the president nominee.