Florida

[Elwar]

Snitker is not going to win. The libertarians should focus on trying to win local and state elections...then move to national elections.

Snitker was the only Libertarian on my ballot.

 

[teamrican1]

I was considering voting yes on 5 and 6. Sure, it takes away the Republican edge that we have right now. But the districts are so skewed as far as gerrymandering that principle would dictate that fairness of district lines would be good to jump on now so it wouldn't come back to haunt us in the future if Dems got into power. Sure, the Dems are pushing for it, but I'm thinking that districts that aren't as skewed to Dems or Reps could be taken by a candidate that is in the middle or libertarian.

A candidate in the middle is NOT a libertarian. The "middle" is inhabited by people who support the absolute worst policies of both parties. The best chance we have of electing liberty candidates is to run Liberty candidates in gerrymandered "R" districts. That's how Ron Paul wins. That's how Justin Amash won. It's easier because all you have to do is win the primary and you are pretty much assured of winning the general. Almost all the true liberty candidates who will be serving in the Congress this coming year will be coming from safe Republican districts. "Centrist" districts like BJ Lawson's are much, much, harder to win. 5 and 6 will create an estimated +3 gain for Democrats in Florida's congressional delegation and it will make it much harder for our kind of candidate to win in Republican districts. It is a disaster.

 

[mnewcomb]

A candidate in the middle is NOT a libertarian. The "middle" is inhabited by people who support the absolute worst policies of both parties. The best chance we have of electing liberty candidates is to run Liberty candidates in gerrymandered "R" districts. That's how Ron Paul wins. That's how Justin Amash won. It's easier because all you have to do is win the primary and you are pretty much assured of winning the general. Almost all the true liberty candidates who will be serving in the Congress this coming year will be coming from safe Republican districts. "Centrist" districts like BJ Lawson's are much, much, harder to win. 5 and 6 will create an estimated +3 gain for Democrats in Florida's congressional delegation and it will make it much harder for our kind of candidate to win in Republican districts. It is a disaster.

Sorry... I'd rather not game the system. I live in Orlando, but my legislative district goes up to Mims, around Cocoa, and then into Cocoa Beach...

I'm sick of the gerrymandering...

 

[Elwar]

I'm sick of the gerrymandering...

I am as well. But after reading the bill it doesn't really even address gerrymandering.

The text going into the Constitution:
In establishing Legislative district boundaries:

(1) No apportionment plan or district shall be drawn with the intent to favor or disfavor a political party or an incumbent; and districts shall not be drawn with the intent or result of denying or abridging the equal opportunity of racial or language minorities to participate in the political process or to diminish their ability to elect representatives of their choice; and districts shall consist of contiguous territory.

(2) Unless compliance with the standards in this subsection conflicts with the standards in subsection (1) or with federal law, districts shall be as nearly equal in population as is practicable; districts shall be compact; and districts shall, where feasible, utilize existing political and geographical boundaries.

(3) The order in which the standards within sub-sections (1) and (2) of this section are set forth shall not be read to establish any priority of one standard over the other within that subsection.

 

[mnewcomb]

I'm not sure how it doesn't address gerrymandering. Existing political/geographic boundaries implies city/county boundaries.

Winter Park, a relatively small well-to-do area in Orlando is split among 4 congressional districts... I live in Orlando proper, but am lumped in with guys all the way up in Mims and Cocoa Beach!

As to the equal opportunity issue, that addresses the drawing of districts to divide and conquer minorities. Dividing a large minority area up so that smaller majority areas can remain intact seems to be the goal of this restriction.

As it is, the Legislature gets to create the districts with ABSOLUTELY NO/ZERO RESTRICTIONS.

 

[K466]

Vote for Snitker

Definitely vote No on Four!

There's no good choice in the governors election so I reluctantly gave my vote to Scott.

I voted yes on 5 & 6 because I disagree with gerrymandering in principle, even though that might mean a gain for the democrats.

 

[Elwar]

I'm not sure how it doesn't address gerrymandering. Existing political/geographic boundaries implies city/county boundaries.

Existing political boundaries....such as existing congressional districts...

 

[Elwar]

I voted yes to all except 2.

You voted yes for ending development in Florida (Prop 4)?

 

[mnewcomb]

Yes. The sprawl in Orlando / Orange County is out of control.

 

[LatinsforPaul]

Snitker is the only vote I am PROUD of!!!

Senator: Snitker Libertarian Party
Congressman: Porter Whig Party District 25
Governor: Scott Republican Party
Attorney General: Bondi Republican Party
Chief Financial Officer: Atwater Republican Party

Amendment 1: YES
Amendment 2: No
Amendment 4: No
Amendment 5: No
Amendment 6: No
Amendment 8: No

Referendum (balancing the Federal Budget): YES

 

[kidal25]

Thanks guys. This is how I ended up voting.
Senator-Snitker
Governor-Michael E. Arth (The republicats won't have any of my votes. I like what Arth said about a couple of things.

For the Amendments I did this. Thanks teamrican1

Yes on 1 (ends public financing)
No on 2 (would give special tax break to soldiers)
No on 4 (makes development more difficult and expensive)
No on 5 (tries to end gerrymandering- bad for our movement since safe R districts are where our candidates have the best hope)
No on 6 (tries to end gerrymandering)
Yes on 8 (will loosen class to student ratio law)